Revolutionising the industry for the make good benefit of samster

[nccc1701]

Dear bros,

I've thought about this for a long time before deciding to share what I've been doing for the past two years.

This action is driven by my frustration with paying entrance fees. Last time, I got cheated by the $88 package. So, I decided that I would no longer pay entrance fees.

What I'm doing may create some negativity. Some bros might think I'm screwing over the shop owners, but I just want a quick release. I don't care about any crappy piano massage.

I've created a new way to play: I find smaller shops with fewer workers and negotiate with the masseuse to just give me a release without a massage.

I offer them $40 or $50. No need for a massage. I go in secretly, pay $50, they finish the job, and I leave. Simple and clean.

It's like a hj bar service.

I think this is the most sustainable way for people who just want a quick release and don't have time for a massage.

It took me two years to find a handful of places willing to do this. Some of them think it makes a lot of sense, but they still don't want everyone to know for obvious reasons. They still want to earn the "room" money.

I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.

Please don't flame me. This is just my personal opinion and quest. I probably won't share this with others unless you have some valid places to share with me. I hope everyone explores and tests this out, opening up the market for such services.

Hopefully, it becomes a norm.

[torrefy]

Curious, if you just want the service, why are you going to massage shops to find the service?

I believe most that go to massage shops and want service also want the massage though. Or you know that so called thrill to unlock. Otherwise they just go to a FJ shop, or GL etc.

[Chewwsy]

Hi bro,

I fully support this idea as i have tested and proven it myself, especially nowadays the massage fees are mostly $60 and above due to inflation. Some of the older neighbourhood estates small TCM shops like the ones at Kallang Bahru and Crawford lane allows this when you have to know the ML and get their contact and they will allow you to just visit them just for the HJ. They are also there to earn the HJ tips, many of them are actually very lazy to massage customers as they get peanuts share on the entrance fees as the bulk of it goes to the boss. I will use this method to chiong whenever I am in Singapore.

[zenmaster10]

Good idea but i will go Geylang fish tank instead Just 10-20bucks top up i can do alot more.

Or course u can always rtm the same lady and request for discount. That works for me too

[lawrene]

Where did you go and get the HJ? If you are doing it in the shop, don't you have to pay for the entrance fee?
Nowadays all shop have CCTV, there is little chance to go in secretly without the boss knowing.

[StealthBomber]

Originally Posted by nccc1701

I've created a new way to play: I find smaller shops with fewer workers and negotiate with the masseuse to just give me a release without a massage.

I offer them $40 or $50. No need for a massage. I go in secretly, pay $50, they finish the job, and I leave. Simple and clean.

It's like a hj bar service.

Like that you might as well watch porn and diy - save your $40,50?

[TheTrader2359]

this only works if the ML is also the boss of the shop and she is operating alone…can find many at people park top floor.. but they are usually above 50 years old and likely SC/PR status.

saw a big tits GILF type ML near the toilet.. she wave ask me to come in.. she said $30 for entrance.. I told her no need massage just HJ at $50.. she agreed instantly..

Went in, lock front door and action started.. pulled out man-made big tits let me suck while she HJ me till cum..

[fangy]

I could not bring myself to pay money for someone to jerk me off… I couldn’t see the sense of it… $50 for a HJ.. really just top up $10 can have FJ…
What’s the appeal of HJ, guys?
$50 got BBBJ with CIM… this I can understand…

[sladang]

Originally Posted by lawrene

Where did you go and get the HJ? If you are doing it in the shop, don't you have to pay for the entrance fee?
Nowadays all shop have CCTV, there is little chance to go in secretly without the boss knowing.

Absolutely very very true & correct ..

[nccc1701]

Originally Posted by sladang

Absolutely very very true & correct ..

The idea is to avoid entrance fee.

So what one of bro say is correct. Only small shops self manned or very little workers type establishments.

ActuAlly i try before, do at their toilet lol.

Girl ask me meet at the back door toilet.

The heart was pounding hard when i was in the toilet waiting for her to come. I dont know if the fucking boss will open the door anot ad f me up hahaha.

Lucky all was good and she walked in with a box of tissue. Tell me first time and then we have a good 5mins in the toilet.

Its really about the thrill.

And also to answer some bros, i dont f around. So a simple handjob to release stress is good enough for me. I can play their breast, they hj me and i save on entrance fee. So its a win win for me.

I also like the fun of exploring and seeking potential places.

[lawrene]

Honestly not my type of game.
For me the fun is to have an hour or 1 hour and half to slowly relax, talk with the ML and slowly play with their body and see their reactions...haha.
Even if the massage is not professional, it still feel good to have a pretty lady to rub your back...haha.
For your type of operation, I will go GL. Pay similar amount, just ask the girl get naked and do HJ. I think they don't mind too as it is a break for their over used pussy.
The only thing don't have is the thrill of getting caught...haha

[chinacuntlover]

Originally Posted by lawrene

Honestly not my type of game.
For me the fun is to have an hour or 1 hour and half to slowly relax, talk with the ML and slowly play with their body and see their reactions...haha.
Even if the massage is not professional, it still feel good to have a pretty lady to rub your back...haha.
For your type of operation, I will go GL. Pay similar amount, just ask the girl get naked and do HJ. I think they don't mind too as it is a break for their over used pussy.
The only thing don't have is the thrill of getting caught...haha

Agreed. Guess the guy just want the thrill.
GL got some syt thai and viet@$60 25min, fj or hj if one so wish

[sicklymicky]

Agree with all the points that bros made. It has to be a OWO for it to work. Even for OWO, many girls are actually employed as staff. The boss will check cctv to see how many customers come in, and collect a cut of the entrance fees accordingly.

I have done this type of negotiation quite often. Usually I target OWO shops, negotiate for FJ without entrance/massage, in a bid to lower the overall damage. It works most of the time but the caveat is, this type of girls usually quality is lower and more mature. I hardly see any SYTs manning a shop on their own.

Another tactic I tried but fail most of the time, is shops with this stupid rule that you have to pay $88 package for any special to happen. If you pay for their normal massage, the ML is not supposed to do HJ. I tried to pay the lowest entrance fee and then inside, negotiate with the ML for HJ. I would rather pay the ML a bit more, than to pay the shop a bit more. For me, every single time the ML would say cannot, they scared kena caught for providing HJ when the package I took is not $88. Damn stupid lol.

[Ahriez]

Thanks for the innovation bro.
But I have to agree with the rest that it's going to be very difficult.
Only possible way is either you are a super regular with the ML or it's those fuck shop where you just upfront say to the girls you just wanna piak piak.

[nccc1701]

I think the market trend suggest that it might be easier for us to unlock more such no frill services in the future

There is just too many competition in the massage sector. Those single shop massuer are more likely to accept it because they are typically in a more discreet location.

But ive unlocked those neighborhood spa before too. Every thing is done very discreetly etc even their colleagues dont know. A hint, such shops often have a back entrance