Speaking the language, knowing the culture...

[Red_Tirak1099]

Like to start a thread here for bros to debate this topic. Does "Speaking the language & knowing the culture" gives you an advantage when it comes to chionging?
My personal view from own experiences is that it helps break the ice & make tmy target feel more at ease when you can speak in their mother tongue.....I have seen frens who are China chiongster hook up with PRCs girls in KTVs here more easily when they parlay their knowledge of China & speak their dialect into the conversation. FOC, ONS, discounts, GFE all seem to come the way of those who can converse well with the foreign ladies. Even my malaysian PR frens get more VIP service when he make contact with malaysian girls....
Another school of thought who disagree says the girls will siam you if you know too much, they call you lao jiao so will not entertain you.....some bros say for those Viet & Thai girls they also dont like those who can speak because remind them of their abusive ex-bf or husbands back home....

So fellow samsters what's is you take?

[JWNY]

I think it depends on the girl also. It's very natural to prefer to express ourselves best in our own mother tongue.

If the Thai girl (in my context) can converse in English, she'd rather do that. At the same time, it gives the person more opportunity to improve. However, I have met many girls that speak fair good English but still prefer to speak in Thai when with me. It's like people who study overseas, they can bring the accent back...or they can choose to speak as per normal.

But girls who know nuts about English may open up more to guys than can speak to them in Thai.

If we are a paying customer - language doesn't really matter in the bedroom but maybe they would not divulge too much personal information, if they don't know how to present the topic properly

I think it's a good advantage only if we want to bring the girl out or meet her friends or family, ie - to date the girl or keep as a friend.

To know the culture is good as it shows we respect different forms of traditions and people, regardless of their background. A basic sign of courtesy would be at the lunch table, to query what kind of meat can be consumed (beef or pork in particular)

Ultimately, not essential - but good to know

JWNY

I think every bit of knowledge will be an advantage. Sometimes though girls if think you blur, everything also dont know may be more helpful ... but in such cases you can always act blur

[babycheong]

no harm knowing more I guess, cos it helps to break the ice.

BC

[i00i]

Depends on what types of girls you are chionging....

If you are chionging WL, well... i won't think knowing more will help much. Although it helps break the ice, but at the end of the day, the size of the WL's smile is directly proportional to the tips you are giving.

However, if it is just ONS that you are looking for, then knowing the language and culture will help heaps. Cos i dun think you can ever sian a girl by using sign language only.

Of course there are still exceptions.....

At the end of the day, i still think there's no harm in learning about the culture of the country you are chionging in. At least you know what is the right thing to do, and what is absolute taboo.

[S T A R]

Haha, but if overseas, the novelty of having a foreigner may put you in good stead. And if you blur blur ... can make jokes...

[x9lee]

i feel that knowing the culture and speaking their language does help especially when you are overseas. Its easier for you to hook up girls, not only those that you need to pay....

When you speak their mother tongue with the girls, they feel more at ease and able to talk to you more. Imagine some that cannot converse with you in english, you will be rather bored. She too will be bored except when you use money to talk to her....

my 1 cents worth

[websurfbastard]

As for my personal point of view, I always think its best for us to be able to communicate and know the cultures. Its brings a personal feel and closeness enabling us to build a better bond between us.

[Red_Tirak1099]

Originally Posted by S T A R

Haha, but if overseas, the novelty of having a foreigner may put you in good stead. And if you blur blur ... can make jokes...

Sometimes I feel izzit this foreign is better mentality that get those caucasian guys free bonks from SPGs? Even the old & balding ones get good hit rates in local clubs......so when we travel overseas (developing countries) we become the "angmo" ?

[yinyang]

For the language part, need not be proficient. Even with a few smatterings of thai, this can be a social greaser ie conversation piece, gals try to help explain or give you a crash course. On other side of coin (if you are proficient), they might want to keep some secrets themselves hehehe.

For the culture part, it's only right we (as visitors or guests) catch up with basics to better our understanding of their psyche, thinking. More so with social taboos like not touching their heads, not showing up your feet (lowest form) etc.

Both are pluses, with the former not necessarily top end. Can only help, no loss.

[Looksee]

when i first go to shanghai (many years back), i tried asking direction from mm (hoping to hook them) in fluent mandarin......and they literally ran away from me....

now i ask in broken mandarin with some english and they become very helpful.....

there was once i pick up a gal during my subway ride in shanghai....reason? she saw me sms-ing in english and so came up and talk to me....

Originally Posted by Red_Tirak1099

Sometimes I feel izzit this foreign is better mentality that get those caucasian guys free bonks from SPGs? Even the old & balding ones get good hit rates in local clubs......so when we travel overseas (developing countries) we become the "angmo" ?

Precisely bro ... must emphasize is foreigner then better chance

[Red_Tirak1099]

Originally Posted by Looksee

there was once i pick up a gal during my subway ride in shanghai....reason? she saw me sms-ing in english and so came up and talk to me....

Taiwan is another place.....they like non-local chinese guys who speak english.....they love their ABCs but I SBC singapore born chinese also they like

I remember years ago the Taiwanese gals like our Ah Ping Ge ... so much ... but heard this has change liao ...

[websurfbastard]

Originally Posted by protester

Precisely bro ... must emphasize is foreigner then better chance

Usually when in China's pubs or disco
"Ang Moh" (Westerners).....usually have best chance

"Gei Ang Moh" (Chinese who speaks English with an accent)...will have a better chance

Foreign Chinese who don't speak English.....still got chance

And for those who don't speak.....(Sure no chance lah)

Just my 2 cents worth...hahaha