Moving to VN to live the happening life

[ruddy122]

Hi
I’m presently living in China but am thinking of relocating to Vietnam so hope the bros here can give me their advice if this is a good idea .
I’m one of those Singaporeans who is not planning to retire in sg due to the high cost of living , the less happening social scene n the higher stress of living in a highly regulated environment, so have no choice but to choose a nice place abroad where I can get the best value for money n life to live in .

China is a nice place to stay but the social scene have changed drastically over the last 8 years These days , many local prc girls will “see u no up” when they find that u r Singaporean n its quite impossible to get a really pretty girl of 18-24 a a gf unless you are in your 20s, am super rich n willing to splurge big on her
Technically, there are lots of nice girls above 27 in China that I can land but because I’m a sucker for looks, I’m not motivated to go after them
I know that most women age fast n that even if I can get a gorgeous 20 year old in VN, she will only look good for 5-6 years on average

So hope the bros here can advise if I should consider relocating to VN , from the women point of view , its a 20 vs 27 year old equation, the 20 year old will get old but at least we get the chance of driving the “new” car till its old n can have good memories of the happening years rather than getting a 7 – 8 year old car who has” been there, done that “ from day 1 .
Of course , there are lots of other things to consider beside the women so hope the bros here can scold n wake me up from my f**king idea if I need be.
Thanks n hope to get some wisdom from you guys.
PS - I anticipate doing monthly visa runs across Cambodia n back to stay in VN n staying for 18 months like a student in relatively basic conditions (compared to my new penthouse in China) as I’ll have to find a good wife first before I can buy an apartment on freehold status n have it done up properly. Of course, there is the option of just mongering around n not getting married like what many SWMs are doing too.

[sammyboyfor]

Surely there is more to life than fucking young girls.

[Hurricane88]

You have language barrier...Vietnam very different from China...

Takes me 8 years to learn and still learning...

Suggest you stay elsewhere and not Vietnam...dun think you will like Vietnam...the life there is very simple and you bored to death...

Read up Vietnam threads before you make decision including "Vietnam Life partner thread"...found in this sub-forum...think you have cultural shock...

[hongkongdoggy]

Originally Posted by ruddy122

Hi
I’m presently living in China but am thinking of relocating to Vietnam so hope the bros here can give me their advice if this is a good idea .
I’m one of those Singaporeans who is not planning to retire in sg due to the high cost of living , the less happening social scene n the higher stress of living in a highly regulated environment, so have no choice but to choose a nice place abroad where I can get the best value for money n life to live in .

China is a nice place to stay but the social scene have changed drastically over the last 8 years These days , many local prc girls will “see u no up” when they find that u r Singaporean n its quite impossible to get a really pretty girl of 18-24 a a gf unless you are in your 20s, am super rich n willing to splurge big on her
Technically, there are lots of nice girls above 27 in China that I can land but because I’m a sucker for looks, I’m not motivated to go after them
I know that most women age fast n that even if I can get a gorgeous 20 year old in VN, she will only look good for 5-6 years on average

So hope the bros here can advise if I should consider relocating to VN , from the women point of view , its a 20 vs 27 year old equation, the 20 year old will get old but at least we get the chance of driving the “new” car till its old n can have good memories of the happening years rather than getting a 7 – 8 year old car who has” been there, done that “ from day 1 .
Of course , there are lots of other things to consider beside the women so hope the bros here can scold n wake me up from my f**king idea if I need be.
Thanks n hope to get some wisdom from you guys.
PS - I anticipate doing monthly visa runs across Cambodia n back to stay in VN n staying for 18 months like a student in relatively basic conditions (compared to my new penthouse in China) as I’ll have to find a good wife first before I can buy an apartment on freehold status n have it done up properly. Of course, there is the option of just mongering around n not getting married like what many SWMs are doing too.

Maybe you can post in the International section under the "vietnam thread'! but be warned...most likely you will get zap! It was voted the most hostile thread of SBf!

[ruddy122]

bros , thanks for looking into the thread, i have read about 100 pages of "understanding viet life partner " thread, found it very useful n am continuing to read it , the problem is that the more i read, the more 'happening" i find it to be ..n the more i realised that i'm missing out a lot.. n really envy what all u guys have been going thru .. ha

actually, i've been to hcmc about 20 times many years ago but that was on biz trip where i only spend 3 to 10 days per stretch, i used to patronise a mamasan in D5 who hook up viet chinese girls for me back then but she got busted a few years in the trade .
i also managed to visit some local viet ktv on the outskirt of town, it was a lot of fun but realised these are the joints that one needs to speak viet or hv local viet friends to be able to safely enjoy

Actually, i have thought of moving to VN 5 years ago but have procrastinated by telling myself that life should not only be about women but sometimes after a few un- happening years, it does makes me wonder if i should think otherwise , then i got a little attracted again recently when VN govt says they are allowing foreigners to buy prop n i look at the Keppel condos n they look quite nice but is only selling at a fraction of the sg price .. wonder if there are any good forms of business that one can do over there at the moment ..

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by ruddy122

bros , thanks for looking into the thread, i have read about 100 pages of "understanding viet life partner " thread, found it very useful n am continuing to read it , the problem is that the more i read, the more 'happening" i find it to be ..n the more i realised that i'm missing out a lot.. n really envy what all u guys have been going thru .. ha

Good that you are reading the thread recommended...you need to read all and get up to date at least till year 2013 to have a full understanding of Viet life partner...still need to visit Vietnam more to learn culture...

Also start reading or follow the HCM thread 3...to have a better understanding of chiong situation...

Vietnam chiong places mainly HCM, Hano and Hai Phong...rest virtually non-existent...

Just concentrate on HCM and chiong places change drastically from HBT days to now website girls similar to Singapore...all these are still very much underground...there are some okts operating but only thru local recommendation...still very much underground too...

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by ruddy122

actually, i've been to hcmc about 20 times many years ago but that was on biz trip where i only spend 3 to 10 days per stretch, i used to patronise a mamasan in D5 who hook up viet chinese girls for me back then but she got busted a few years in the trade .
i also managed to visit some local viet ktv on the outskirt of town, it was a lot of fun but realised these are the joints that one needs to speak viet or hv local viet friends to be able to safely enjoy

HCM landscape wise had not change much in D1, D3, D5, D10...new developments are in D2, Binh Thanh and outskirts...

Vietnam ppl moves fast and today you see this girl and 1 year later this girl may have moved elsewhere or quit her job...Mummasan too relocate or quit their job...things dun remain static...few years ago contact will deemed useless today...

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by ruddy122

Actually, i have thought of moving to VN 5 years ago but have procrastinated by telling myself that life should not only be about women but sometimes after a few un- happening years, it does makes me wonder if i should think otherwise , then i got a little attracted again recently when VN govt says they are allowing foreigners to buy prop n i look at the Keppel condos n they look quite nice but is only selling at a fraction of the sg price .. wonder if there are any good forms of business that one can do over there at the moment ..

Vietnam allow foreigners to buy condos but with conditions...can only sell to foreigners and not sell to local...now can rent out...any purchase of property must wait estimate 10 years to profit...

In terms of business wise, I dun see any biz that is worth to venture in except

1. Hotel
2. Property investment (keppel building Saigon Ctr 2 and condos in D2)
3. Vietnam stock market (but need to be selective)

Forget about restaurant or food biz, coffee shop, etc

Many Asians relocate to Asian cities because they are involved in illegal biz...Vietnam has a fair share of such ppl from South Korea, Thai, Malaysia, Taiwan,Singapore...etc...better dun state too clearly those biz...anyway Thialand has the most foreigners involved in illegal/illicit biz and those on the run...

Above posts are IMHO....not to make anyone unhappy or upset...pls skip if you dun like to read...I suggest you post in Vietnam Life Partner thread rather than here....so more sexperts can reply you....

[checkingin]

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

Vietnam allow foreigners to buy condos but with conditions...can only sell to foreigners and not sell to local...now can rent out...any purchase of property must wait estimate 10 years to profit...

In terms of business wise, I dun see any biz that is worth to venture in except

1. Hotel
2. Property investment (keppel building Saigon Ctr 2 and condos in D2)
3. Vietnam stock market (but need to be selective)

Forget about restaurant or food biz, coffee shop, etc

Many Asians relocate to Asian cities because they are involved in illegal biz...Vietnam has a fair share of such ppl from South Korea, Thai, Malaysia, Taiwan,Singapore...etc...better dun state too clearly those biz...anyway Thialand has the most foreigners involved in illegal/illicit biz and those on the run...

Above posts are IMHO....not to make anyone unhappy or upset...pls skip if you dun like to read...I suggest you post in Vietnam Life Partner thread rather than here....so more sexperts can reply you....

Just reading your comments I learned many things.

[eddy72]

Originally Posted by checkingin

Just reading your comments I learned many things.

u also got plan to retire in vn?

[blacksocks]

foreigners can buy condo which last for 50 years only. as to whether can only sell to foreigners, not too sure.

the only way to go around this is to either marry the VN girl and get a PR so you and your wife can jointly own. Or to put the property under her name which is rather risky...you never know the girl's true agenda.

there are some new developments in hcm D2 that are worth taking a look at.

[TwinTowers]

There's 88088 and 55055 nicks .

[ruddy122]

bro H88
do you mean posting it under “ Understanding Vietnamese Life Partner”, actually I wanted to do so but was afraid of being seen to be “hijacking” the thread.
bro , u hv been staying in VN for 8 years or hv u been travelling in n out of it on short trips ?
Last time, I worked in Vientiane (laos) n Phnom Penh (cambodia) briefly so I can understand what u meant by boredom as the system can move so slow with everyone doing things slowly that you hv no choice but to slow down n wait too, esp if you need to deal with the govt
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Actually, I was also stirred into the VN dream by a lot of internet articles from SWN, many of these guys who work in Canada n the US are finding life meaningless n taking the plunge to VN, here is one of the articles ;
http://singlemansparadise.com/expat-...tnam-may-2016/

obviously, there is a marketing element to it as these guys r blogging for a living once they step onto the “cheongster” lifestyle in Southeast Asia .. but then it got me thinking, if just 30% of what they say is true n if the white guys can do it, so we could probably do much better as we are Asians , will possibly be able to learn Viet more easily or at least can communicate in canto or mandarin with the viet Chinese

Bro eddy72
hv no choice but to consider retiring in VN, SG is too expensive n stressful to live in n too un-happening (unless one is super rich) ,
Malaysia is full of crime n is not much cheaper to live in .
Indonesia equally “luan” (chaotic),hv to pay bribes everywhere n chinese is discriminated .
Thailand possible but maybe too many SWM n thai visa rules hv became pretty tough plus they hv guns there
PRC – lots of the local guys with connection hv become very rich, local wages hv gone up, the exaggerated shortage of females (called mms –妹妹) hv rocketed the status of mms so now they are super $ oriented , the pretty ones will cost a bomb to go after (rich guys can give them bank card with 150-200k rmb without blinking after knowing them for 1 week )
VN – hv some good impression there but am hoping there will be enough pretty Viet Chinese VB to spread around as there are only 950k viet Chinese in the country with a lot being married to taiwan n korea yearly

[ruddy122]

bro H22 n Blacksocks
Thks for the prop infor, vn prop agent say foreigners cannot buy resale prop n can only buy 1st hand prop from developer, if true then afraid foreigners will end up buying high(fm developer) n selling low .
SWM say he bought a house using local VB name 8 years ago but cannot sell it at a fair price after trying for 4 years
SWN say they bought prop using VB name but hv a separate lawyer agreement stating that they are the sponsor for buying the house n have an agreement that gives them full rights to manage , rent or sell the house .
Wonder if this type of agreement will hold water in lawsuit.
VN prop agent also say that if I buy prop, I can include a future vn wife as co-owner (to get freehold status for prop) at a later date n says some developer will not charge a fee to have it done.
Then I read that smart people like bro SV has bought prop in hcmc many years ago so reckon hopefully there could be a safe way for us to do so ..
bro 55055
u r right that Vn hv many things in common with prc Wiki says that the majority of the Viet population are the Kinh people n that they originate fm VN n Southern china n that China has started to colonise VN from as early as 333 BC
But unfortunately, prc hv better laws, they hv a pre-marital asset law where what u own before marriage remains 100% yours after marriage , only the assets that u bought after marriage hv to be divided 50-50 , prc also recognise pre-nuptial agreement n prop will be indefinitely renewed after 70 years by paying an admin fee less than 2% of the prop value.

doing small biz
in China, what some foreign guys do is to get their local mm to go learn the inside out of a small biz (eg a bread or cosmetics shop ) by working for others , they then support her to open a shop after she hv got enough experience n able to see if the biz can make $ or not .. this way they get the biz done in the local way with min tax n little registration or overheads required. hopefully, this method can be used in VN but of cos consumer affordability must be there 1st.

bringing in $
Someone said was that it is very difficult to bring $ into VN n hv it deposited at the bank as they will ask for ridiculous ways to prove” source of funds”, hopefully there can be some way of pleasing the rules , they also say it will be hard to bring out the $ after selling prop

Lastly , hv attach pics of supposedly prettier mms in prc , wonder if fellow bros can tell me if this type of standard or higher is easy to get in VN , is hard to get or will be the hard to maintain type that will be "better not get" .I remember last time when I went to D5, I hv to change several girls before can get the right one , those days I rented a room in a VN house n they bring the vb to the house for me to see

[snakehead]

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

..anyway Thialand has the most foreigners involved in illegal/illicit biz and those on the run...

Dun say until like that lah....... I relocate to Thailand because I am retiree and their lifestyle / culture / costs of living / retirement visa scheme are all very gum with me. I am not on the run nor am I involved in any illegal activities.
I have a part-time job as a despatch boy with a Japanese MNC in BKK.