now what? post 911 anti-terror measure killed all on GermanWing

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An honorable member of the Coffee Shop Has Just Posted the Following:

Post 911 so called anti-terror anti-hijack safety measure, locked all the cockpits up in bullet proof steel doors.

So when Airbus GermanWing flight co-pilot decided to hijack the flight for suicide terror plot, the steel door worked perfectly in his favor! WAF?

The pilot tried to break into the cockpit but failed.

KNN! crashed Alps mountain.

It happened and it cam happen AGAIN. It will!

Remember SIA blamed MI185 Silkair pilot for suicide and it plunged into Indonesian Musi River?

Nothing new! Won't be the last case.




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Reports: Video found in wreckage shows Germanwings flight's final seconds
By Pamela Brown, Frederik Pleitgen and Laura Smith-Spark, CNN
Updated 2040 GMT (0340 HKT) March 31, 2015


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Story highlights
Reports: Video found in Germanwings wreckage
In 2009, Andreas Lubitz informed his Lufthansa training school of a previous episode of severe depression, airline says
Lubitz's girlfriend knew he had psychological issues but not their extent, source says
Dusseldorf, Germany (CNN)Video found in the wreckage on a French mountainside shows the nightmarish final seconds of Germanwings Flight 9525, reports said Tuesday.

Taken on a cell phone, the video "was so chaotic that it was hard to identify people, but the sounds of the screaming passengers made it perfectly clear that they were aware of what was about to happen to them," according to the French magazine Paris Match, which obtained the video along with the German newspaper Bild.

"One can hear cries of 'My God' in several languages. Metallic banging can also be heard more than three times, perhaps of the pilot trying to open the cockpit door with a heavy object. Towards the end, after a heavy shake, stronger than the others, the screaming intensifies. Then nothing," Paris Match reports.

The two publications described the video but did not post the video itself.

Lufthansa, meanwhile, announced that co-pilot Andreas Lubitz told told his Lufthansa flight training school in 2009 that he had a "previous episode of severe depression."

What was mental state of Germanwings co-pilot?

The airline is sharing that information and documents -- including training and medical records -- with public prosecutors.

Authorities have said Lubitz purposely crashed Flight 9525 into the French Alps on March 24, killing all 150 people aboard.

His girlfriend knew he had psychological issues but "did not know the extent of the problems," a European government official briefed on the investigation into last week's crash told CNN on Tuesday.

The girlfriend told investigators the couple were working through the issues together and "were optimistic" they could solve the problems; she was just as surprised as everyone else by what he did to the plane, the source says.

The girlfriend also told investigators Lubitz had seen an eye doctor and a neuropsychologist, both of whom deemed him unfit to work recently and concluded he had psychological issues, according to the source.

Lubitz complained about vision problems; the eye doctor diagnosed a psychosomatic disorder and gave him an "unfit for work" note, the source said.


Prosecutors: Co-pilot suicidal at one time 03:01
Investigators are looking into whether Lubitz feared his medical condition would cause him to lose his pilot's license, the source said, adding that while flying was "a big part of his life," it's only one theory being considered.

Another source, a law enforcement official briefed on the investigation, told CNN earlier Tuesday that authorities believe the primary motive for Lubitz to bring down the plane was that he feared he would not be allowed to fly because of his medical problems.

Too stressed?
Lubitz told the neuropsychologist that he was too stressed with work, the European government official briefed on the investigation said.

The official said he was not aware of any suicidal tendencies reported by Lubitz to the doctors, but that investigators believe he was suicidal.

Airline officials have said that if Lubitz went to a doctor on his own, he would have been required to self-report if deemed unfit to fly.

The European government official also reiterated that German media tabloid reports that the girlfriend is pregnant or had major personal problems are all speculation and rumor.

The girlfriend and the co-pilot had not, as was widely reported by some media, broken up the day before the crash, the source said.

Official: Lubitz had suicidal tendencies
Earlier, a spokesman for the prosecutor's office in Dusseldorf, Germany, said Lubitz suffered from suicidal tendencies at some point before his aviation career.

Investigators have not found any writings or conversations where Lubitz shared his motives or confessed to any plans, prosecutor's spokesman Christoph Kumpa said.

However, medical records reveal that Lubitz was suicidal at one time and underwent psychotherapy. This was before he ever got his pilot's license, Kumpa said.

Kumpa emphasized there's no evidence suggesting Lubitz was suicidal or acting aggressively before the crash.

The prosecutor's office confirmed what some media outlets had reported about doctors deeming Lubitz unfit to fly, though there were no physical illnesses found.

Check out the latest from our correspondents

Who was the captain of Germanwings Flight 9525?

Recovery efforts continue
While investigators search for clues to Lubitz's motivation, recovery workers continue the grim task of searching for the remains of those killed in the March 24 crash.


Investigators: Recovery effort going 'bit by bit' 02:10
Lt. Col. Jean-Marc Menichini, Gendarmerie spokesman for the Provence-Alpes-Cotes d'Azur region, told CNN on Tuesday that a new path has been completed linking Le Vernet, a nearby community, to the mountainous ravine where the plane's debris is scattered.

It will be used by rescue teams to access the area, he said.

Capt. Yves Naffrechoux, also of the Gendarmerie unit, said Monday that the 1-kilometer path would cut down on the time it takes to reach the crash site considerably.

The trip will now take 30 minutes from Seyne-les-Alps, the staging post for the operation, with less walking involved and thus less fatigue, but also with fewer risks than helicopter transfers.

Two helicopters are still working in case weather conditions improve and allow them to fly, Menichini said.

The remains of at least 78 people on board the plane have been identified so far using DNA analysis.

Naffrechoux warned Monday that "it may not be possible to find the human remains of all the 150 passengers, as some of them may have been pulverized by the crash."

But French President Francois Hollande, speaking alongside German Chancellor Angela Merkel in Berlin, was more positive, saying that it should be possible to identify all the victims by the end of the week.


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Rescue workers and members of the French Gendarmerie gather in Seyne-les-Alpes on Tuesday, March 24, as search-and-rescue teams struggle to reach the remote crash.
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Wreckage is seen at the crash site on March 24.
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Response teams gather in Seyne-les-Alpes on March 24.
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Relatives of the flight's passengers arrive at the airport in Barcelona on March 24.
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People waiting for Flight 9525 are led away by airport staff in Dusseldorf on March 24.
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People arrive at the Dusseldorf Airport on March 24.
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People hold hands walking through the Dusseldorf Airport on March 24.
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The arrivals board at the Dusseldorf Airport shows Germanwings Flight 9525 without a status on March 24.
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An employee of Swissport, the handling agent of Germanwings flights from Barcelona, speaks by phone at the Barcelona-El Prat Airport on March 24.
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Relatives of people involved in the crash arrive at the Barcelona airport on March 24.
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A man who appears to be waiting for news on Flight 9525 covers his face at the Dusseldorf Airport on March 24.
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Airport staff in Dusseldorf escort people to a waiting area on March 24.
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People arrive at a holding area for friends and relatives of Flight 9525 at the Dusseldorf Airport on March 24.
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A man in Madrid looks at a monitor with a map, released from the Flightradar24 website, showing the point where the plane's radar signal went missing.
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This undated file photo shows the Germanwings Airbus A320 that crashed. Germanwings is a low-cost airline owned by the Lufthansa Group.
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French Red Cross members and residents pay tribute to the victims in front of a stele, a stone slab erected as a monument, near the site of the crash near Le Vernet on Saturday, March 28. The crash of Germanwings Flight 9525 into an Alpine mountain, killing all 150 people aboard, has raised questions about the mental state of the co-pilot.
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Flowers laid in memory of the victims on Friday, March 27, are placed in the area where the Germanwings jetliner crashed in the French Alps, in Le Vernet, France.
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Journalists stand in front of the Westerwald airfield in Montabaur, Germany, on March 27. Andreas Lubitz, co-pilot of Germanwings Flight 9525, reportedly learned to fly here. Information collected by investigators suggests Lubitz was alone at the controls of the plane and deliberately crashed it in the French Alps on Tuesday, March 24, a prosecutor said.
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Police stand at the home of Lubitz's parents in Montabaur, Germany, on Thursday, March 26. Flight 9525 was en route from Barcelona, Spain, to Dusseldorf, Germany, when it crashed. There were 144 passengers and six crew members on board.
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Investigators carry a computer from Lubitz's parents' home in Montabaur on March 26.
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A police officer stands guard on March 26 at an apartment building where Lubitz was thought to have lived in Dusseldorf.
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A helicopter lifts a rescue worker from the crash site in the French Alps on March 26.
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Rescue workers continue to search the site of the Germanwings plane crash on March 26.
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Search and rescue teams land near the crash site on Wednesday, March 25.
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Debris from the plane is seen along a mountainside in the French Alps on March 25.
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Rescue workers continue their search operation near the crash site on March 25.
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French military personnel move up a mountainside March 25 near Seyne-les-Alpes, France.
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The cockpit voice recorder of the Germanwings jet appears in a photo provided by the French air accident investigation bureau on March 25.
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Another photo from the French air accident investigation bureau shows the bottom of the cockpit voice recorder. The device is designed to capture all sounds on a plane's flight deck.
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A helicopter comes in to land near Seyne-les-Alpes, the staging ground for search efforts, on March 25.
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Rescue workers and members of the French Gendarmerie gather in Seyne-les-Alpes on Tuesday, March 24, as search-and-rescue teams struggle to reach the remote crash.
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Wreckage is seen at the crash site on March 24.
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Response teams gather in Seyne-les-Alpes on March 24.
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Relatives of the flight's passengers arrive at the airport in Barcelona on March 24.
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People waiting for Flight 9525 are led away by airport staff in Dusseldorf on March 24.
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People arrive at the Dusseldorf Airport on March 24.
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People hold hands walking through the Dusseldorf Airport on March 24.
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The arrivals board at the Dusseldorf Airport shows Germanwings Flight 9525 without a status on March 24.
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An employee of Swissport, the handling agent of Germanwings flights from Barcelona, speaks by phone at the Barcelona-El Prat Airport on March 24.
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Relatives of people involved in the crash arrive at the Barcelona airport on March 24.
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A man who appears to be waiting for news on Flight 9525 covers his face at the Dusseldorf Airport on March 24.
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Airport staff in Dusseldorf escort people to a waiting area on March 24.
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People arrive at a holding area for friends and relatives of Flight 9525 at the Dusseldorf Airport on March 24.
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A man in Madrid looks at a monitor with a map, released from the Flightradar24 website, showing the point where the plane's radar signal went missing.
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This undated file photo shows the Germanwings Airbus A320 that crashed. Germanwings is a low-cost airline owned by the Lufthansa Group.
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French Red Cross members and residents pay tribute to the victims in front of a stele, a stone slab erected as a monument, near the site of the crash near Le Vernet on Saturday, March 28. The crash of Germanwings Flight 9525 into an Alpine mountain, killing all 150 people aboard, has raised questions about the mental state of the co-pilot.
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Flowers laid in memory of the victims on Friday, March 27, are placed in the area where the Germanwings jetliner crashed in the French Alps, in Le Vernet, France.
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Journalists stand in front of the Westerwald airfield in Montabaur, Germany, on March 27. Andreas Lubitz, co-pilot of Germanwings Flight 9525, reportedly learned to fly here. Information collected by investigators suggests Lubitz was alone at the controls of the plane and deliberately crashed it in the French Alps on Tuesday, March 24, a prosecutor said.
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Police stand at the home of Lubitz's parents in Montabaur, Germany, on Thursday, March 26. Flight 9525 was en route from Barcelona, Spain, to Dusseldorf, Germany, when it crashed. There were 144 passengers and six crew members on board.
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Investigators carry a computer from Lubitz's parents' home in Montabaur on March 26.
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A police officer stands guard on March 26 at an apartment building where Lubitz was thought to have lived in Dusseldorf.
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A helicopter lifts a rescue worker from the crash site in the French Alps on March 26.
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Rescue workers continue to search the site of the Germanwings plane crash on March 26.
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Search and rescue teams land near the crash site on Wednesday, March 25.
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Debris from the plane is seen along a mountainside in the French Alps on March 25.
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Rescue workers continue their search operation near the crash site on March 25.
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French military personnel move up a mountainside March 25 near Seyne-les-Alpes, France.
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The cockpit voice recorder of the Germanwings jet appears in a photo provided by the French air accident investigation bureau on March 25.
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Another photo from the French air accident investigation bureau shows the bottom of the cockpit voice recorder. The device is designed to capture all sounds on a plane's flight deck.
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A helicopter comes in to land near Seyne-les-Alpes, the staging ground for search efforts, on March 25.
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A simple stone memorial has been set up at Le Vernet, where grieving relatives of those killed have laid flowers and held prayers.

The opening of the road, which must still be paved, will eventually allow family members also to reach the spot where their loved ones died.

Authorities say there are some 26 families of six different nationalities in the area Tuesday.

However, Patricia Willaert, head of the Alpes de Haute-Provence district, told reporters that Lubitz's family was not among those to have come since the crash.

"There had been some rumors, but they have not come to the site," she said. "The family of the co-pilot has not come. We have no knowledge of information informing us of that."

Willaert said some 450 people close to the victims had already traveled to the area, with more expected to come during the Easter weekend.

"The priority has been to welcome them in the best possible way," she said. She praised the mobilization of local citizens, who spontaneously offered 2,000 beds to accommodate the victims' families.

German investigators and French criminal investigators are due to work together at the crash site Wednesday, Dusseldorf police said.

Medical record emerging
Much attention has focused on Lubitz's state of mind, with suggestions that he may have had mental health issues.

Lubitz, 27, passed his annual pilot recertification medical examination in summer 2014, a German aviation source told CNN. He had started working as a commercial pilot in 2013, said Lufthansa, the parent company of Germanwings.

An official with Lufthansa said that the exam only tests physical health, not psychological health.

It's unknown if Lubitz mentioned his problems on a form that asks yes-or-no questions about physical and mental illness, suicide attempts and medications. European pilots must fill out the form to be recertified.

Federal aviation authorities, not the airline, issue the form. The form is privileged information, and Lufthansa never sees a pilot's completed form, an airline representative said.

The airline would only get a "clear to fly" notice from the aviation doctors alerting the airline that a pilot has completed recertification.

Germanwings crash compensation: What we know

Safety investigation
France's accident investigation agency, the BEA, said Tuesday that the ongoing safety investigation was focusing on a more detailed analysis of the flight history leading up to the crash, based on the audio recovered from the cockpit voice recorder and any other available data.

BEA spokeswoman Martine Del Bono told CNN: "A deliberate act by a man with a disturbed psychological profile is a possible scenario. The first step of the investigation is to describe more precisely what happened."

This will be based mainly on analysis of the cockpit voice recorder, to be supplemented by data from the flight data recorder if it is found, she said.

"But we will also look at other events with possibly similar scenarios, try to understand if there are systemic weaknesses which may contribute or facilitate such scenarios.

"We will in particular look at the cockpit door locking as well as the criteria and procedures applied to detect specific psychological profiles."

Lufthansa said in a statement Tuesday that it was canceling its 60th anniversary celebrations, planned for April 15.

Instead, the company will provide a live broadcast for its employees of an official state ceremony to be held April 17 in Cologne Cathedral for bereaved families and friends to remember the victims, it said.

CNN's Pamela Brown reported from Dusseldorf and Frederik Pleitgen from Cologne, while Laura Smith-Spark wrote from London. CNN's Josh Levs, Pamela Boykoff, Antonia Mortensen, Sandrine Amiel, Margot Haddad, Anna Maja Rappard and Mariano Castillo contributed to this report.

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