FAKE SDs, WANNABES & SCAMMERS

[cherrybomb2015]

Originally Posted by gingkonut

Fully agree. Call it transport fees, sincerity fees, or even rejection fees in advance. Many bros thought meet ups are like online gallery, don't need resource or money to make it happen, and they just pop by to look at the goods then say bye bye if not suitable.

At least have a decent meal to reciprocate. If they cannot even comprehend such basics, forget that they will treat you with decency thereafter.

Yet, there are many bros who will provide willingly. Just stay cool

Thank you bro. Yes, I find it so ridiculous. Want to be SD and yet even $50 also cannot cover.

[cherrybomb2015]

Originally Posted by augeen15

If $50 mean so much to him, he is not sincere and cannot afford it but just trying to get a free date with pretty young ladies. I think should be $100 for the first meeting. $50 for transport, $50 for meeting, on what grounds does he deserve meeting FOC?

Yes exactly.

If he is sincere, he wont mind covering the $50, even if not suitable at least he covers the transport fee for the gal ma, its not a big deal? I just wanted to post the texts here to show everyone how cheapskate these wannabes are!

[iceage]

Originally Posted by cherrybomb2015

Yes exactly.

If he is sincere, he wont mind covering the $50, even if not suitable at least he covers the transport fee for the gal ma, its not a big deal? I just wanted to post the texts here to show everyone how cheapskate these wannabes are!

Frankly asking for $50 to cover the transport is fine. After all we are talking about few K$/month arrangement.

Generally, I would not pay for transport as this might be deemed as an insult to the lady. If the lady really need the transport coverage, I would be happy to pay for the time and effort.

[ran85num]

Agree totally with iceage and gingkonut bros.

I will say some compensation as a gesture of goodwill is due, since there is real effort and time spent on the SB's part to meet up. The nature of compensation is abit tricky if its a "rejection fee" or "transport charges" (either sounds like an FL or furniture) since its rather insulting to the lady. I would say a meal (if shes willing to, perhaps she deems as a waste of time) and an "ang bao" of $50-100 would be nice?

This kind of arrangement should function somewhat like a regular business relationship. Both sides need to be sufficiently wary of each other scamming, but without taking some calculated risks, there is nothing to be gained.

Like infinitiumus bro, personally I dont agree paying to size up the girl in general since she should consider investing the time for the first meeting with the SD who is potentially offering a long term arrangement. Both sides should definitely chat and assess before the meeting.

My advice to potential SBs is to be very firm that no sex before the first allowance. Plenty of creeps around and its so infuriating to be cheated for sex (thats definitely dulan on a whole new level)!

[cherrybomb2015]

Originally Posted by ran85num

Agree totally with iceage and gingkonut bros.

I will say some compensation as a gesture of goodwill is due, since there is real effort and time spent on the SB's part to meet up. The nature of compensation is abit tricky if its a "rejection fee" or "transport charges" (either sounds like an FL or furniture) since its rather insulting to the lady. I would say a meal (if shes willing to, perhaps she deems as a waste of time) and an "ang bao" of $50-100 would be nice?

This kind of arrangement should function somewhat like a regular business relationship. Both sides need to be sufficiently wary of each other scamming, but without taking some calculated risks, there is nothing to be gained.

Like infinitiumus bro, personally I dont agree paying to size up the girl in general since she should consider investing the time for the first meeting with the SD who is potentially offering a long term arrangement. Both sides should definitely chat and assess before the meeting.

My advice to potential SBs is to be very firm that no sex before the first allowance. Plenty of creeps around and its so infuriating to be cheated for sex (thats definitely dulan on a whole new level)!

Yes it is just a gesture of goodwill to cover the cab fare, as surely u cannot expect the girl to dress up so nicely and then take mrt bus to go meet u? Its just a basic courtesy. I encountered those who insist on coming to fetch me, instead of covering my cab fare, and obviously I dont feel comfortable w letting strangers I met online know where I live. What if you're a crzy stalker??

Dont understand why some of these so call SD out there are so GIAM! Over $50 can argue so much. Then u better keep your $50, skali you need it more than me!

Yes I agree, warning to fellow SBs out there, pls dont ever have sex with your SD before u receive your allowance. Too many scammers out there. Genuine SD wont mind giving allowance upfront, and those who can afford SB, few k is really peanuts to them. They wont bother to argue so much.

Watch out for those pseudo SD who just wanna trick u into having one session sex and pay u a token sum of few hundred. These fuckers want "clean" and high quality babes (like uni students and models etc), cos they dont want escorts and prostitutes. So must chutt this kind of smelly patterns. Then of course there are those who only want to pay "per session". Extremely low class.

U try and see whether if u can have premium country club membership where u only pay "per session"? They will tell u to go home fuck yourself. If u are no SD, dont gek sey.

[ran85num]

I was about to say the SD can fetch you, but yeah and even if you give them a nearby location its either uncomfortable with the makeup and dress or he may be a crazy stalker that prowls your neighbourhood.

How empowering it must be to be an SD, when an SB has such expectations of them! However, do you really think its true that genuine SDs will always give a few k upfront? Thats awfully convenient for SD scammers and no one likes the feeling of being cheated, even if money wasnt an issue and they can afford it.

I see your point on pseudo SD wanting one session sex with higher quality babes. But frankly some bros pointed out that not all SBs are good and some have poor "service". Maybe the balance is 35-50% of the allowance, since that is significantly higher than a one session with an FL and not too much risk for the SD?

If I were to put myself into an SD's shoes (sounds like a challenge), I wouldnt wanna give 100% allowance before I have been intimate with the SB. I will feel really stupid if she had a poor attitude and that is perhaps the SD equivalent of being cheated of sex for an SB. Also, a scammer SB can use this strategy to farm genuine SDs (rather than waiting another month for the SD to give the next allowance, you get another SD to pay 100% in the same month).

[cherrybomb2015]

Originally Posted by ran85num

I was about to say the SD can fetch you, but yeah and even if you give them a nearby location its either uncomfortable with the makeup and dress or he may be a crazy stalker that prowls your neighbourhood.

How empowering it must be to be an SD, when an SB has such expectations of them! However, do you really think its true that genuine SDs will always give a few k upfront? Thats awfully convenient for SD scammers and no one likes the feeling of being cheated, even if money wasnt an issue and they can afford it.

I see your point on pseudo SD wanting one session sex with higher quality babes. But frankly some bros pointed out that not all SBs are good and some have poor "service". Maybe the balance is 35-50% of the allowance, since that is significantly higher than a one session with an FL and not too much risk for the SD?

If I were to put myself into an SD's shoes (sounds like a challenge), I wouldnt wanna give 100% allowance before I have been intimate with the SB. I will feel really stupid if she had a poor attitude and that is perhaps the SD equivalent of being cheated of sex for an SB. Also, a scammer SB can use this strategy to farm genuine SDs (rather than waiting another month for the SD to give the next allowance, you get another SD to pay 100% in the same month).

For the first month, its fair to give bi-weekly. So example allowance is 4k, upfront 2k and another 2k after two weeks. So both parties reduce their risk of getting scammed. ALl my previous SDs gave my allowance upfront. There was no issue as they knew exactly where I lived. I had no way of MIA-ing.

But let me tell u something, it is SOOOOO difficult to find a genuine and good quality SD. Ive met at least 80 potential SDs in the past few years. Most of the so call SDs out there, be it SA or SBF or whatever are FAKES. It is not much diff from trying to find a really good and decent guy to date. Most are just out for free fucks.

Then u get those SDs majiam looking for a wife. They will meet girl after girl after girl, and still cannot find after months or even years. That is yet another sign that something is wrong with the guy. Either his budget is way too low, his expectations way too high, or both.

I ever encounter one siao kia who insist on coming up to my house to see me bare face with no makeup, because he wanted to make sure he gets a real deal and a REAL chiobu, who is chio even without makeup. Lol wtf.

Some losers will request for "test drive", and pay $300 or $500 for one hour session. (Yet another trick to get one-time sex without going to "pros".) I tell them I am not a fucking car.

Then there was one fucktard I met who wanted to know the SIZE & COLOR of my nipples cos he said he is so scared of big and super dark brown nipples. He actually wanted me to describe the size and color ("Is it more like 20 cent coin or 50 cent coin?") to him, so he can decide whether he wants to consider arrangement. Honestly dont know whether to laugh or cry.

There are also plenty who are just bored, just wanna ask a girl out to talk cock for fun, see whether chio or not, neh neh big or not, and has no genuine intentions of having arrangement. In the past, I made the mistake of spending 5, 6 hours chatting with potentials, only to realize after some time that these guys only want companionship without having to pay. Go KTV also must tip the hostess $200-$300 right? Pretend to be SD, wow can meet many gals everyday FOC!!
So now if I wanna meet potential SDs, I always limit it to a 1 hour session, and I will collect a meet up fee of $50- $200 depending on the guy. And ideally get him to take u for dinner at a high end restaurant too. If he refuses, I wont even bother to show up. Sure win ways to tell whether someone is genuine or just out to satisfy curiosity & meet girls for fun.

Sorry if all these "tricks" come across very gold-digger, but frankly there is no other way to filter out the wannabes and fakes. I just dont want to waste my valuable time with any more fakes. Talk is forever cheap.

So if a girl finds a genuine SD, it makes much more sense to want to continue with arrangement and be a great SB to him so u can have a long term arrangement, rather than try to scam a few k which only lasts a month??

So please fellow SBs, please take it from me...


If you find a decent SD who really has the deep pockets, willing to spend and treat you nicely, hang on to him & whatever you do DO NOT SCAM him cos these kind is really the 1%!!!

[iceage]

Originally Posted by cherrybomb2015

So if a girl finds a genuine SD, it makes much more sense to want to continue with arrangement and be a great SB to him so u can have a long term arrangement, rather than try to scam a few k which only lasts a month??

So please fellow SBs, please take it from me...


If you find a decent SD who really has the deep pockets, willing to spend and treat you nicely, hang on to him & whatever you do DO NOT SCAM him cos these kind is really the 1%!!!

Well said. This is why my SB has been with me for almost 5 years and she does not want to leave. No need to be greedy as over time the genuine SD would usually reward you well. After all, most genuine SD usually have deep pockets.

[cherrybomb2015]

Originally Posted by iceage

Well said. This is why my SB has been with me for almost 5 years and she does not want to leave. No need to be greedy as over time the genuine SD would usually reward you well. After all, most genuine SD usually have deep pockets.

Good on you, bro. Your SB is lucky indeed. Wish there were more out there like u!

[super_duper108]

Originally Posted by iceage

Well said. This is why my SB has been with me for almost 5 years and she does not want to leave. No need to be greedy as over time the genuine SD would usually reward you well. After all, most genuine SD usually have deep pockets.

My SB is so well taken care of until she doesn't even want my money anymore..

[nachos84]

Both sides have been disrupted by scammers SDs and scammers SBs, so much so that a lot of distrust have been built up. For SBs, they do not want to be scammed into doing a trial session / one time paid session with the promise of continuing payment ( which obviously never came after ), hence they demand upfront payment. For SDs, upfront payment is surely a no no in case of bad attitude SBs or fake SBs taking money and disappearing. Bro terminator33 has a good formula for SD that safe guards the interests of both parties - well at least safe guards the SBs more and reduces the risks to SDs. Ran85num is also correct to advise all SBs that no sex should be given prior to any form of payment.

I dont agree pay per session is low class in anyway. It's what suits the individual that matters. I have met my fair share of SBs who prefers to be paid per session instead of monthly allowances. TS do not have to be so crude and throw insulting words in this forum.

As for transport allowances, it's no big deal what the sum is. To some genuine SD, although it is a small amount, it is also a show of how sincere the SB is for the arrangement. I would prefer not to meet someone who is petty in counting the dollars and cents when the deal is a few thousand dollars a month. There are also scammer SBs that would meet many guys in a day and collect 50-200 per meet. You can't deny that it is a good way to 'earn' some quick cash. Having said that, I can also understand from the SBs point of view that they cannot be going around meeting so many potential SDs ( not sure how many percentages are fake ) and just to have them wasting your time. To mitigate this risk to them, I guess a token sum like what TS suggested ( $50 ) is not big deal and should be given just to cover the SB for coming out to see you. Personally I dont give any allowances. However I would fetch them at a location which is convenient to them, or buy them a nice lunch or dinner. Prior to meet up, i would also talk and chat with them to have a feel of how sincere they are. It's not a foolproof method but it does help a bit.

There was one potential SB who offered refundable meet up fee, such that if the deal goes through and the SD is genuine, the meet up fee is 'refundable' from the subsequent payment. Sounds good initially, but it's not exactly safeguarding anything for the SD. If the SB is fake, the meet up fee is taken already and will be lost. It does however, safeguards SBs from fake SDs. For genuine SDs, the 50-200 dollars really does not matter at all. There is no need for any refund at the end.

Happy finding for all potential SDs and SBs

[cherrybomb2015]

Originally Posted by super_duper108

My SB is so well taken care of until she doesn't even want my money anymore..

Im sure..... Cos your dick is 9 inches when erect right?

Who needs money for food & bills when u can choke on a 9 inch penis everyday!

[cqueen]

Originally Posted by super_duper108

My SB is so well taken care of until she doesn't even want my money anymore..

Happy Lunar New Year Super_duper108,

U are saying your SB is well taken care of by your juicy hard cock feeding her everyday with your hot delicious hot cum that she is so 饱 and fully contented with life to the extent she does not need you to buy her Prada Bags, give her generous allowances to dine and wine in nice posh restaurant after a luxurious spa and relaxing manicure and pedicure? So are you saying she is so contented with your daily hot cum supply that she will stupidly stay at home just to get u to fuck her for free?
Really, I did not know there is such a Kum Gong sugar baby. Alas, anything is possible.

[super_duper108]

Originally Posted by cqueen

Happy Lunar New Year Super_duper108,

U are saying your SB is well taken care of by your juicy hard cock feeding her everyday with your hot delicious hot cum that she is so 饱 and fully contented with life to the extent she does not need you to buy her Prada Bags, give her generous allowances to dine and wine in nice posh restaurant after a luxurious spa and relaxing manicure and pedicure? So are you saying she is so contented with your daily hot cum supply that she will stupidly stay at home just to get u to fuck her for free?
Really, I did not know there is such a Kum Gong sugar baby. Alas, anything is possible.

Physically and mentally ..

I buy her gifts, bring her out for dinner, holiday etc
She has a full time job to keep her occupied .. So money is not everything to her...hmmmm as for my 9 inch cock you will have to try it out yourself to see if
It's good

[nachos84]

Originally Posted by super_duper108

Physically and mentally ..

I buy her gifts, bring her out for dinner, holiday etc
She has a full time job to keep her occupied .. So money is not everything to her...hmmmm as for my 9 inch cock you will have to try it out yourself to see if
It's good

sounds like a gf bro.. how do you define her as your SB then?