woes of a tirak

[critic]

Originally Posted by free

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Bros, please do not just shoot at this; if you dun believe it exists just bypass this post and ignore it, ok? There is a genuine case out here and I hope we can rally around this bro and provide the needed info for him instead. Do not add salt to his wounds. That is the minimum we who are luckier to travel when we want to, can do for a brother in need.

I laud your effort in trying to assist in ways and means that will help bros here in this WL relationship. But it stops there. You have to believe and appreciate that there are also ppl out there who genuinely believe this relationship is detrimental to the well being of the bros involved. SC, Thaivisitor et al belong to this category. And hence the counter perspectives.

With such a controversial topic, there will be 3 sides. How you can request ppl to skip if they don't believe? You have your say and so do ppl who sincerely want to help bros out there from getting into such a trap.

Afterall, the main objective is to help bros, right? Why deprive these confused bros of different perspectives... the 'good', the bad and the ugly sides of things.

Helping by painting a false screen will not do in the long run. Reality will prevail and the sooner these bros in 'teerak love' see the whole pic, the better for him. Of course I assuming you genuinely want to help them and not have any hidden agenda.

critic

[The Punisher]

Originally Posted by critic

I laud your effort in trying to assist in ways and means that will help bros here in this WL relationship. But it stops there. You have to believe and appreciate that there are also ppl out there who genuinely believe this relationship is detrimental to the well being of the bros involved. SC, Thaivisitor et al belong to this category. And hence the counter perspectives.

Helping by painting a false screen will not do in the long run. Reality will prevail and the sooner these bros in 'teerak love' see the whole pic, the better for him.
critic

I applaud you bro as you are able to see and understand the real "purposes" of the different counter perspectives. All with the focus to allow all those involved in tirakship to reflect on their present positions and to do quick analysis and remedial actions if necessary.

Having said that, i apologise to anyone who may have been offended by my posts and shall refrain further from posting as i am not in a tirak relationship but posted my views from a third party point of view.

[free]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

Why you said adding salt to wounds when the person in the picture doesn't think he is wounded at all?
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Let me ask everyone a question. Does anyone know the thai girl? Free, you know? Thaivisitor you know? Redperrier you know? Know as in not knowing her identity but her true self.

SC, I have already said very clearly this case that I am talking about is a genuine case (and I know is one of the very few real cases), and it has nothing to do with the threadstarter. And I know who the couple are. I am not pleading for support either - only useful information for his perusal. Potential travelling problems are very real and valid (although rare) and definitelynot financial in nature, so there is a need for some info/experience to help ensure the lady can come here as a genuine tourist. I am sorry that that is all I can reveal.

If u can't help supply any useful info, please bypass this thread; let it go, OK? Please.,, I have no wish to drag mud on this case. Else I am hurting the very brother I am trying to help.

Please let those have such experience where only the lady can come here to visit answer this post , Those of us (including myself) who have no such experience, please refrain from commenting. That much we can do to help a bro with a valid case.

Please take this as a personal plea from me, if that is needed.

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by free

SC, I have already said very clearly this case that I am talking about is a genuine case (and I know is one of the very few real cases), and it has nothing to do with the threadstarter. And I know who the couple are. I am not pleading for support either - only useful information for his perusal. If u can't help supply any useful info, please bypass this thread; let it go, OK? Please.,, I have no wish to drag mud on this case. Else I am hurting the very brother I am trying to help.

Please take this as a personal plea from me, if that is needed.

What kind of info or support is there for "woes of tirak".

Anyway, since I can't help supply any useful info, I let the tiraks continue building fantasy castles here in this woeful thread.

Just can't help it when some people think too much of themselves by saying NSF are young fucks while Old men are cash rich but dirty.

Define useful info.

SC

[free]

Originally Posted by free

SC, I have already said very clearly this case that I am talking about is a genuine case (and I know is one of the very few real cases), and it has nothing to do with the threadstarter. And I know who the couple are. I am not pleading for support either - only useful information for his perusal. Potential travelling problems are very real and valid (although rare) and definitelynot financial in nature, so there is a need for some info/experience to help ensure the lady can come here as a genuine tourist. I am sorry that that is all I can reveal.

If u can't help supply any useful info, please bypass this thread; let it go, OK? Please.,, I have no wish to drag mud on this case. Else I am hurting the very brother I am trying to help.

Please let those have such experience where only the lady can come here to visit answer this post , Those of us (including myself) who have no such experience, please refrain from commenting. That much we can do to help a bro with a valid case.

Please take this as a personal plea from me, if that is needed.

I am very sorry, I made a terrible mistake. The above sentence in bold should read "If u can't help supply any useful info, please bypass this POST; let it go, OK? Please. " I had mean to say this POST not Thread. I was puzzled at the responses until I spotted my mistake. I apologize for the typo-error. Hopefully the responses will now take on a different angle.

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by free

I am very sorry, I made a terrible mistake. The above sentence in bold should read "If u can't help supply any useful info, please bypass this POST; let it go, OK? Please. " I had mean to say this POST not Thread. I was puzzled at the responses until I spotted my mistake. I apologize for the typo-error. Hopefully the responses will now take on a different angle.

Mai pen rai

Anyway, those who know me will know my age group, but nevertheless, I do not discriminate NSF in commercial sex as they are doing a service for Singapore and its not within means to moonlight to earn extra money.
Who wants to be an NSF earning little money?

As for old men, many of them in their 20s, 30s are busy building up their careers and financial status, thus they might have missed the partner of their lifetime. When they past 40s 50s, though they turn to commercial sex and willing to spend their money on these women, to label them dirty old men, is not appropriate.

Which chiongster does not have lustful thoughts when going for commercial sex. Its irregardless of age. Getting back CPF money is a kinda of process which everyone will come to only when our age reaches the benchmark set by govt.

Young chaps being sincere???? Young chaps think too much of themselves at times.

SC

[suteerak1099]

1st n foremost, just bcos RP chooses to support some of my thoughts in his own way (probably influenced by my longwindedness) surely he's entitled to his opinions too.

just wanna make my pt clear that i'm nt trying to brainwash u fellas to think like me nor to vote for me as your next tirakship idol. there's a big bunch of fellas here involved w a WL someway/somehow. genuine or not, i cant comment cos every tirakship is unique & subject to individuals. we know that its not exactly something healthy, cos it could just be a system that is applied to suck the pockets dry, bt there's also cases where its truly genuine.

how the couple choose to deal w the situation really is not for us to say, bcos they each have different sets of woes/issues to resolve. ok, maybe my 3 scenarios posted somedays back was too generalised when it could've been broken down to more detailes sets n subsets(for that i apologize)... bt lets not 4get that the list could go on for infinity(given the fact that each case is different).

have received several PMs on the side, where readers share more details about their woes, others offer encouragements, needless to say also some condolences occassionally lol. watever it is... i truly appreciate the responses ongoing.

korb kun mak krap,
str1099

[thaivisitor]

Originally Posted by suteerak1099

1st n foremost, just bcos RP chooses to support some of my thoughts in his own way (probably influenced by my longwindedness) surely he's entitled to his opinions too.

Of course everyone is entitled to their opinions especially so in this forum, that is why many have posted whether we like it or not.

Bear in mind that many bros have gone thru tirakships before and their experiences and opinions can help those who are going thru it now.

Your posts are not only long-winded, it more fantasizing. Much as you want to novelized your experiences, add it a bit of colour, the basic facts must be truth.

For example when you wrote about "bear the pain, soaking the pillow w tears on those sleepless nights, stomach the fury of jealousy, hide those woes on a daily basis." and that you are in this situation as your finances are limited, I also came to understand that while you are in this "tirakship" you have at least gone to bonk another cat40 WL. No need to swear on anyone's grave that you didn't as it doesn't mean a thing at all even when I say let the car bang me if I lie.

I'm not saying bonking another girl is wrong, heck bonk by all means, as even we married samsters still cheong. But protraying a fake image in this forum, thus sending the wrong signals to readers or your so-called woes, etc whilst actually there is practically no real hardship on your part, is not too good.

I'm not saying that you are disloyal, or that you don't love your tirak,.. I still bonk and I still love my family.

But, like I said, if you really want to share, tell it like it is.

thaivisitor
BTW, I don't have to meet you or know you, to know your story. You'll be amazed at how info keep pouring out to me whenever I'm involved in a thread.

[thaivisitor]

Originally Posted by The Punisher

Just for discussion sake, how many WLs you know or anybody else in this forum knows, that was "bought" out by someone who is "rich"? because from my experiences, all of the people i know of who are married to ex-WL are all normal working class people. granted, that i do not know a lot of people who are married to ex-WL, but i know of 6 friends who are, maybe not as much as bro thaivisitor.

I can safely say that the WLs (now ex) that I know are all married to normal working class people, and I know a lot of them.

I was with bro Free last night, and I'm sure he will also say the same as I do. Also, during our conversation last night, I have also mentioned some fellow bros who are all involved in tirakships, and mind you, these bros (working class) have already had their tiraks out from their jobs and are now in the process or making other arrangements for their future. The definition of true tirakship.

[thaivisitor]

Originally Posted by The Punisher

Having said that, i apologise to anyone who may have been offended by my posts and shall refrain further from posting as i am not in a tirak relationship but posted my views from a third party point of view.

No apologies and no experiences are required in order to contribute. Sometimes, it only take a logical mind in order to be effective.

Cheers
thaivisitor

[The Punisher]

Originally Posted by thaivisitor

No apologies and no experiences are required in order to contribute. Sometimes, it only take a logical mind in order to be effective.

Cheers
thaivisitor

Thank you for your encouragement but i have already been deducted points by some fellow samsters who don't agree to my involvement. probably they prefer me to be a bystander or side with the threadstarter's point of view.

[thaivisitor]

Originally Posted by free

In general (and that's the vast majority of the cases) I agree with you,

does any one know if there are any problems for her to come back on a normal social visit pass, if he is prepared to be her guarantor? Does this "show money" thingy still applies? And what is the minimum period she must be away from these shores before it can happened?

Show money may still apply. Immi may request to see the show money or they may not. Up to them but must prepare.

The rest, I already told you last night, change n*** tiwce, etc.....

No waiting period required. Only waiting is for her to get a passport.

[thaivisitor]

Originally Posted by +++++++for

When asked how many tiraks suteerak1099 had before, he had this answer:

"Originally Posted by suteerak1099
so to date... if u're talking about TIRAK... there can only be 1."

Like dat I can safely say I have not had a WL tirak before, so if I see a WL I like, then I also first timer leh... kekekekekekekeke

Anyway, if I can start an online betting pool, I'll give out odds that eventually he will not be with this girl.

[free]

Originally Posted by thaivisitor

Show money may still apply. Immi may request to see the show money or they may not. Up to them but must prepare..

The rest, I already told you last night, change n*** tiwce, etc.....

No waiting period required. Only waiting is for her to get a passport.

Thanks. As u know I was asking this with respect to my own tirak and I just realised right now that the same solution can apply to my friend. I like it and will definitely go this route, I believe it is cheaper than any other "less desirable" methods I have heard of. But best of all, it is all above board. The last thing I want is for her to break the law just to see me.
Thanks so much.

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by thaivisitor

Anyway, if I can start an online betting pool, I'll give out odds that eventually he will not be with this girl.

Like that not very good. Because there are some who are out to prove us wrong by persisting in their relationship that will not bear any fruit. Even when the going gets tough, they still continue, by wanting to prove every others that they are right.

Sometimes proving us wrong is detrimental to them not to us (we don't lose sleep or even a single cent over it), but at this point of time, most can't really think straight anymore.

SC