Raise water prices by as much as 100% to reflect production cost: Economist

[kuasimi]

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MINISTER Mentor Lee Kuan Yew called for a sense of proportion yesterday, pointing out that the annual wage bill for ministers and all office holders is $46 million - or just 0.022 per cent of Singapore's total economic output.


It was an 'absurdity', he said, for Singaporeans to quarrel over whether ministers collectively should be paid $10 million or $20 million more, when an economy worth $210 billion was at stake

'The cure to all this talk is really a good dose of incompetent government,' he said in his first comments on impending salary increases for ministers and top civil servants. 'You get that alternative and you'll never put Singapore together again.'

Singaporeans' asset values would also disappear, he warned, adding that 'your apartment will be worth a fraction of what it is, your jobs will be in peril, your security will be at risk and our women will become maids in other people's countries'.

He said the present system of benchmarking ministers' pay to top private sector salaries was 'completely above board' and allowed the Government to recruit 'some of the very best' to lead the country

When it was put to him that people hoped for leaders who were willing to make sacrifices and who were not there for the money, he replied that these were 'admirable sentiments'. But he added that 'we live in the real world'.

His bottom line: if the Government could not pay competitive salaries, Singapore would not be able to compete and 'we're not going to live well'.


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[dongpeisem]

everything also wanna raise the price.

fuel, water, rental then food prices

singapore hard to survive lah

[skyleon]

Originally Posted by kuasimi

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MINISTER Mentor Lee Kuan Yew called for a sense of proportion yesterday, pointing out that the annual wage bill for ministers and all office holders is $46 million - or just 0.022 per cent of Singapore's total economic output.

Dear bro it is certainly nice to see you posting but however would appreciate if you could do the following :


1) Provide the latest info , Most of your articles are outdated .

2) Please also post the correct topic in the correct thread .

3) If you cannot find any thread that is not related to your article please post in your own thread .

4) lastly please do not spam all over the forum with the same articles.

Looking forward to your kind understanding and cooperation .

[Belt]

Originally Posted by dongpeisem

everything also wanna raise the price.

fuel, water, rental then food prices

singapore hard to survive lah

basically govement want to win everything and score every time and get every cents from the people who voted them.

[BiSkirt]

Originally Posted by Belt

basically govement want to win everything and score every time and get every cents from the people who voted them.

You mean they won't take a single cent from those who didn't vote for them?

[skyleon]

Singapore must be prepared to face water shortages: DPM Teo


By Nur Afifah Ariffin
Posted 04 Mar 2017 23:21
Updated 04 Mar 2017 23:30


SINGAPORE: Singapore must be prepared psychologically to face water shortages if its reservoirs dry up and when the second water agreement with Malaysia ends in 2061, said DPM Teo Chee Hean on Saturday (Mar 4).

At present, imported water meets half of Singapore’s water needs. But water levels in Johor’s Linggiu Reservoir are falling. There is also the danger of prolonged dry weather, Mr Teo said.

As such, water has been a strategic priority for Singapore.

Speaking to 4,000 people at the launch of the Singapore World Water Day on Saturday morning, Mr Teo said the Government has invested heavily to develop local water sources like expanding water catchment areas and deploying new technologies.

“We have been fortunate over the past few years to benefit from advances in technology – NEWater and membrane-based desalination. These alternative water resources are not dependent on rainfall and have helped to supplement our traditional water resources,” he said.

Singapore has invested about S$430 million per year in water infrastructure since 2000. This will double to S$800 million per year over the next five years.

HOW MUCH DOES WATER COST IN SINGAPORE?

A 330ml bottle of water, which one can get from any supermarket, costs less than S$1. In contrast, that same amount of money will pay for 1,000 bottles of clean water from the tap after the full water price increase of 30 per cent has been phased in over the next two years.

“Our price of water from your tap is comparable to that in major cities. Many of them have large rivers and lakes to draw from. We have none of these natural sources of our own. According to the World Resources Institute, if we just left things to nature, we are the most water-stressed country in the world,” said DPM Teo.


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The great WaterGate propaganda continues .

[woodymann]

Originally Posted by skyleon

Singapore must be prepared to face water shortages: DPM Teo


By Nur Afifah Ariffin
Posted 04 Mar 2017 23:21
Updated 04 Mar 2017 23:30


SINGAPORE: Singapore must be prepared psychologically to face water shortages if its reservoirs dry up and when the second water agreement with Malaysia ends in 2061, said DPM Teo Chee Hean on Saturday (Mar 4).

At present, imported water meets half of Singapore’s water needs. But water levels in Johor’s Linggiu Reservoir are falling. There is also the danger of prolonged dry weather, Mr Teo said.

As such, water has been a strategic priority for Singapore.

Speaking to 4,000 people at the launch of the Singapore World Water Day on Saturday morning, Mr Teo said the Government has invested heavily to develop local water sources like expanding water catchment areas and deploying new technologies.

“We have been fortunate over the past few years to benefit from advances in technology – NEWater and membrane-based desalination. These alternative water resources are not dependent on rainfall and have helped to supplement our traditional water resources,” he said.

Singapore has invested about S$430 million per year in water infrastructure since 2000. This will double to S$800 million per year over the next five years.

HOW MUCH DOES WATER COST IN SINGAPORE?

A 330ml bottle of water, which one can get from any supermarket, costs less than S$1. In contrast, that same amount of money will pay for 1,000 bottles of clean water from the tap after the full water price increase of 30 per cent has been phased in over the next two years.

“Our price of water from your tap is comparable to that in major cities. Many of them have large rivers and lakes to draw from. We have none of these natural sources of our own. According to the World Resources Institute, if we just left things to nature, we are the most water-stressed country in the world,” said DPM Teo.


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The great WaterGate propaganda continues .

Then still want to bring in more foreigners to make 6.9m population?
Slapping their own white face

[skyleon]

Saving water: Go beyond tackling costs to enhance public education



By Toh Ee Ming

Published: 2:55 PM, March 4, 2017

Updated: 11:46 AM, March 5, 2017



SINGAPORE — Getting Singaporeans to cut down on their water usage should not be done through a “carrot-and-stick” approach alone, green groups here said, as they called for more concerted, long-term efforts to help the population learn to be more caring towards the resource.

Finance Minister Heng Swee Keat announced in his Budget speech that water prices would rise by 30 per cent from July 2018, with the first of two rounds of water price hikes to kick in this July. Responding to the outcry over this move, Minister for the Environment and Water Resources Masagos Zulkifli said in Parliament on Wednesday (March 1) that water has to be priced fully as it is a matter of national security, and consumers “must feel the price of water” to realise its value.

However, when it comes to getting people to treat water as a precious resource, Mr Tan Yi Han, co-founder of non-governmental organisation People’s Movement to Stop Haze, called for new ways to tackle the issue and not just to increase cost. He bemoaned that public education on water conservation is still quite “lacking” here, and suggested that environmental groups offer “targeted advice” and tips that people may readily adopt.

“(It’s not effective) to tell someone who is already taking short showers to cut down even more,” Mr Tan said. “Rather, give them advice on buying the right kind of washing machine, or new technologies to adopt at home which can (significantly cut down) on water usage.”

He also suggested having water-rationing exercises, because its proven educational value outweighed its inconvenience.

“The Government has to decide ... if stronger interventions like (water rationing) are needed to change behaviour ... because the risk is that even if you increase the price, people might not change their ways… so the same amount of water continues to be used,” he added.



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[UserCP]

Originally Posted by skyleon

Saving water: Go beyond tackling costs to enhance public education



By Toh Ee Ming

Published: 2:55 PM, March 4, 2017

Updated: 11:46 AM, March 5, 2017



SINGAPORE — Getting Singaporeans to cut down on their water usage should not be done through a “carrot-and-stick” approach alone, green groups here said, as they called for more concerted, long-term efforts to help the population learn to be more caring towards the resource.

Finance Minister Heng Swee Keat announced in his Budget speech that water prices would rise by 30 per cent from July 2018, with the first of two rounds of water price hikes to kick in this July. Responding to the outcry over this move, Minister for the Environment and Water Resources Masagos Zulkifli said in Parliament on Wednesday (March 1) that water has to be priced fully as it is a matter of national security, and consumers “must feel the price of water” to realise its value.

However, when it comes to getting people to treat water as a precious resource, Mr Tan Yi Han, co-founder of non-governmental organisation People’s Movement to Stop Haze, called for new ways to tackle the issue and not just to increase cost. He bemoaned that public education on water conservation is still quite “lacking” here, and suggested that environmental groups offer “targeted advice” and tips that people may readily adopt.

“(It’s not effective) to tell someone who is already taking short showers to cut down even more,” Mr Tan said. “Rather, give them advice on buying the right kind of washing machine, or new technologies to adopt at home which can (significantly cut down) on water usage.”

He also suggested having water-rationing exercises, because its proven educational value outweighed its inconvenience.

“The Government has to decide ... if stronger interventions like (water rationing) are needed to change behaviour ... because the risk is that even if you increase the price, people might not change their ways… so the same amount of water continues to be used,” he added.



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I propose rationing their fucking obscene salary

[FOCwart]

Originally Posted by woodymann

Then still want to bring in more foreigners to make 6.9m population?
Slapping their own white face

You mean their "Little White Face"

[NewLife4Me]

i all br

The truth of the increase in water prices, may be more scary than all you guy know.

Remember the Fukushima melt down? For the past six years, 300~400 ton of radioactive water is pouring into the Pacific ocean every single day. Remember I137 this element. Its kill.Take over 130 yrs to be non toxic to human.

The contaminated water has been flowing around the pacific rim countries. America California coast is a dead sea now. Soon within one year or so China, Thailand, New Zealand, Indonesia. Singapoe even Australia , everyone will get the radio active coast. All the seafood are affected.

It is estimated that cancer case Will increased by two fold within the next 10 years.minimum

Our New Water come from the sea, PUB is setting up new filtering system to reduce the I37 radioactive element. Its very expensive setup. That the TRUE REASON why water price increase.

If the radioactive water become rain water from evaporation, our soil and vegetables also gonna. Meats products is the most worrisome subject.

Government don't tel you. No one tell cos our economy will doomed. You must be in the loop to know about these stuff.

Just hope that in twenty years time, you be alive and kicking If you have kids and grand kids, you die with eye wide open.

Pray to your God's for salvation.

Chant 阿弥陀佛

[SiaSuay]

New Water is recycle water . Distillation water from the sea. I wonder why it is so difficult to disclose the cost of producing water in Sillypore ? If the water is drying up in Johor shouldn't the government look for another reservoir in Johor . I believe if we are nice to people other people will be nice to us .

[sadfa]

Originally Posted by NewLife4Me

i all br

The truth of the increase in water prices, may be more scary than all you guy know.

Remember the Fukushima melt down? For the past six years, 300~400 ton of radioactive water is pouring into the Pacific ocean every single day. Remember I137 this element. Its kill.Take over 130 yrs to be non toxic to human.

The contaminated water has been flowing around the pacific rim countries. America California coast is a dead sea now. Soon within one year or so China, Thailand, New Zealand, Indonesia. Singapoe even Australia , everyone will get the radio active coast. All the seafood are affected.

It is estimated that cancer case Will increased by two fold within the next 10 years.minimum

Our New Water come from the sea, PUB is setting up new filtering system to reduce the I37 radioactive element. Its very expensive setup. That the TRUE REASON why water price increase.

If the radioactive water become rain water from evaporation, our soil and vegetables also gonna. Meats products is the most worrisome subject.

Government don't tel you. No one tell cos our economy will doomed. You must be in the loop to know about these stuff.

Just hope that in twenty years time, you be alive and kicking If you have kids and grand kids, you die with eye wide open.

Pray to your God's for salvation.

Chant 阿弥陀佛

Wrong!!!!

Water from sea is desalination.
New water Is from urine n shit. Affectionately called sai chwee.

There's no chemical u can add to radioactive water to make it non radioactive la
______
Exchange points correct ma

[skyleon]

Ensure coffee shops don't use water fee hike as excuse to profiteer, says MP


By Neo Chai Chin

Published: 11:30 PM, March 5, 2017

Updated: 2:33 PM, March 6, 2017



SINGAPORE — Bring back a committee against profiteering to ensure that establishments such as coffee shops do not profiteer by raising prices using water fee hikes as an excuse, Member of Parliament (Nee Soon GRC) Lee Bee Wah said on Sunday (March 5).

Speaking to reporters after a residents’ dialogue with Law and Home Affairs Minister K Shanmugam, Ms Lee said: “I’d like to urge the Government, especially the Ministry of Trade and Industry, to look into cases where coffee shops increase prices now.”

The ministry could investigate whether any increases since the water price hikes were announced on Feb 20 were justifiable, said Ms Lee, who noted that water prices were going up in two phases only on July 1 this year and next.

Such a committee was previously set up in 1994 to look into complaints and feedback on establishments that were allegedly profiteering by using increases in Goods and Services Tax as an excuse.

“It’s timely to activate the committee so that residents can use WhatsApp to feed back, and it can go investigate,” said Ms Lee, echoing a call by fellow MP Lim Biow Chuan during the Budget debate.

If checks on any coffee shops that raised prices after Feb 20 are not done, then other businesses may follow suit, added Ms Lee, who termed price increases of even 10 cents for coffee on the basis of higher water prices as “too much”.

This is because the 30 per cent increase in water prices translates into users paying 60 cents more per 1,000 litres of water, which is enough for about 5,000 cups of coffee, she said.

At the dialogue at Nee Soon South Community Club, which took place before an International Women’s Day health talk in the constituency, Mr Shanmugam highlighted the need for Singapore to balance expenditure and income.

“In every country, people want to pay less tax, and they want more from the Government. But it doesn’t work ... In the end, we have to pay for what we use,” he said.

“We use the money very carefully, but after 2020, if you look at the pattern — government expenditure is high, health care, social welfare and so on, housing — we have to find ways of increasing the income.”

He noted that the Government’s expenditure exceeds its operating revenue. The returns on Singapore’s reserves supplement the annual Budget through the Net Investment Returns Contribution.


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If you don't raise water prices the coffee shops would not have any excuse to raise prices or anyone else for that matter .

[SiaSuay]

Like this food prices will also increase .