To stay in or out of a relationship with a KTV gal

[jeronimo]

Originally Posted by Fatjumbo

As long your price quote matches or exceed the gals' expectation plus got chemistry with you. Sure to go unless some of them already have a "hubby" behind them taking care of them !!!

Enjoy the life bro.

Life is always a two way blade.

I have heard of girls who rejected a benz from her customer asking her to be his lover.
I have also heard of girls with more than 4 men giving her allowance and yet can have a lover whom does not pay a single cent.

I don't know but judging from the way you talk and write, you sound more like as if you are just into it for the fun and nothing serious about the girl you are writing about.

In the playing arena to be a top notch player, you need to be a heartless cad who can play romeo and yet turn around to be a cold hearted bastard to walk away nonchalently (yet another life is a two way blade......)

Anyway I don't stereotype people and this is just my 2cents

[colins]

Originally Posted by Fatjumbo

I guess her GFE is so similar to my ex many years back that it relighted back fond memories of tat feeling. Hence, I agreed to be BF but ....

... I like her quite alot...

....but when I am working....she's evicted from my life that's for sure.

These points are new. Sad as it is, the last point will never come true, becos the reason to evict her will never be work. That is just a condition you set to drag this lovely honeymoon period for as long as you can. You must evict her becos you are losing, you dun evict her becos you have no time for her. Dun believe? Try this. Picture this, when you say you have no time for her, what if she starts to compromise and meet you less but use more powerful mindgames? What if she, say, meet you up everyday during lunch just to have lunch with you? What if she waits till you knock off just to see you one glance, then tell you she just want to say "I love you" and then walk off to work?

I tell you, if she does this, you're in for a terrible time for the rest of the days. Its very heart-aching to see her putting out all effort just to meet you, then when you see her backview walking away from you after she said I love you, to the dark dank nightscene to try to earn her simple living, you will bloody hell feel like crying and you will feel that you kiam her a lot already. Thats when you will break, my friend. Worst thing is, you set the condition for this to happen. And this is only one tactic among many many even better ones. So far, maybe she knows that you eat-soft-dun-eat-hard, if thats the case, you'll just get the softest mushmellow candyfloss treatment for whatever move you take. hahaha...

[colins]

Originally Posted by DTCEPL

Bro Colins.....your advices sounds so Professional and Comprehensive, analyzing situation in such details.....I am very curious.....are u a Love Doc or what???

But is nice to have you around to guide fellow Bros, avoiding the KC trap.

Seriously, I think I have been saying too much. What I said is quite one-sided for Bro jumbo's situation, not across the board for everyone. So bros dun take the words in absolute, cos you might find it hard to apply or worse apply them incorrectly in your individual situation. Step yourself into bro jumbo's shoes that you will see many things that I did.

[DTCEPL]

Originally Posted by colins

then when you see her backview walking away from you after she said I love you, to the dark dank nightscene to try to earn her simple living, you will bloody hell feel like crying and you will feel that you kiam her a lot already. Thats when you will break, my friend. Worst thing is, you set the condition for this to happen.

I have experience such for two long years....the feeling is damn bloody bad.

That held me back from playing in KTVs and HCs....I can't play even if gals forced themselves on me, I just pushed them away, but I still pay the tips, because If I does play or even rubba rubba, I can't imagine how others played 'her' behind my back. This feeling is with me from day one I start to feel for her until today, its still inside me.....felt like crying everytime when I think of what could have happened in the room when she is with her customer.

Damn the feeling hurts so deeply each day she goes to work.

After terminating the relationship, now I feel more relax and relief, no need to endure this anymore.

[slider_72]

Originally Posted by DTCEPL

I have experience such for two long years....the feeling is damn bloody bad.

That held me back from playing in KTVs and HCs....I can't play even if gals forced themselves on me, I just pushed them away, but I still pay the tips, because If I does play or even rubba rubba, I can't imagine how others played 'her' behind my back. This feeling is with me from day one I start to feel for her until today, its still inside me.....felt like crying everytime when I think of what could have happened in the room when she is with her customer.

Damn the feeling hurts so deeply each day she goes to work.

After terminating the relationship, now I feel more relax and relief, no need to endure this anymore.

Totally understand that feeling bro. So totally absofuckinglutely understand that feeling.

[colins]

Originally Posted by DTCEPL

I have experience such for two long years....the feeling is damn bloody bad.

That held me back from playing in KTVs and HCs....I can't play even if gals forced themselves on me, I just pushed them away, but I still pay the tips, because If I does play or even rubba rubba, I can't imagine how others played 'her' behind my back. This feeling is with me from day one I start to feel for her until today, its still inside me.....felt like crying everytime when I think of what could have happened in the room when she is with her customer.

Damn the feeling hurts so deeply each day she goes to work.

After terminating the relationship, now I feel more relax and relief, no need to endure this anymore.

2 years is a long time bro, it must have changed you a lot. Hurt big time.

Like slider, I've been thru this too. You can't change it cos you can't control it from happening. You can only accept it as her choice. Worst thing is, you can't tell anybody. You hide a lot. It becomes your second nature to try to hide cos the truth is too painful. Then in the moment of truth, she left you and all that you represents. The entire thing fell apart. Sometimes, a person can never pick himself up ever again. Imagine the damage you did to yourself. Sad

[sammyboyfor]

Originally Posted by slider_72

Totally understand that feeling bro. So totally absofuckinglutely understand that feeling.

Why don't you guys get to know girls in decent professions instead of constantly getting involved with hookers?

[jojogigi]

Originally Posted by slider_72

Totally understand that feeling bro. So totally absofuckinglutely understand that feeling.

if you reach the higher state of nirvana.... you can separate her flesh between her heart... pple touch her flesh.. you not affected. Cos you know only you touched her heart. (cheem boh? ) ahahahahahah

[slider_72]

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor

Why don't you guys get to know girls in decent professions instead of constantly getting involved with hookers?

I can't speak for the rest but I do know lots of girls in decent professions, bankers, lawyers, doctors, etc. The trouble is they are not half as interesting or half as fun as the hookers.

While we may be inviting trouble by hanging out with the hookers, hanging out with the so-called decent professionals may also invite trouble, albeit of a different nature.

With the hooker, you are definitely going to get laid. With the so-called decent professionals, you are still expected to spend copious amounts of time and money wining and dining them and yet have to keep your fingers crossed hoping that you might get lucky. If you average it out, the ROI sucks big time.

Even if you do get lucky with the so-called decent professionals, half the time the shag is a hit and miss thing. You have an even chance of getting a dead fish in bed. To compound the problem, if you do get a dead fish, with the hooker, chances are you are not going to RTF and the hooker will simply disappear from your life. With the so-called professionals, you have an even chance of her sticking to you like glue, bitching about you to all your friends, turn your life upside down and accusing you of merely using her for sex and dumping her once you got it.

Except for the rare few, most of the forumers who got burnt by WL KC problems encountered such a problem after countless number of sessions. So if you take the average of the number of times a guy goes for a commercial fuck with the number of times he gets involved with a KC problem, my own estimate is that it should be between 1% and 2%. For every 100 hookers that a guy shags, he may encounter 1 or 2 where he develops a strong emotional attachment to the girl.

Now for the so-called professionals, I think the guy has a far higher chance of getting into trouble. For every 100 bankers, lawyers, doctors that a guy shags, how many do you think will go berserk once they realise that the guy is just using her body for sex?

I think the risk of getting into trouble with the so-called professionals is much higher, and not only do you risk getting hurt, betrayed, dumped, used, etc, you also risk loosing your job if the girl bad-mouths you within your professional circle.

I think I'll take my chances with the hookers. Convenient, fast to cook, good to eat.

[HCKing]

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor

Why don't you guys get to know girls in decent professions instead of constantly getting involved with hookers?

to sian a hooker just flash yr notes and she will fly to u with open arms. so easy.

to sian a normal decent girl have to go thru the boring longwinded wooing steps....somemore can tio reject anytime.

but nwadays want to sian hooker also no easy liao, nt only must have notes also must c wat color notes.

[jojogigi]

SIBEH WELL SAID slider!!! maggie mee! dating decent professionals is really a chore. Might as well as simple better.

[xyz1001]

Originally Posted by slider_72

I think I'll take my chances with the hookers. Convenient, fast to cook, good to eat.

hahaha agreed man.
If we are looking for flings, it makes sense to go pubs, disco. Rather than going library right? More babes that are dressed to kill, out-going personality equal higher success rate.

I dun mind the wooing stage, i'm just more concerned abt the dumping stage. The library gals appear too decent and innocent.

[DTCEPL]

Originally Posted by colins

2 years is a long time bro, it must have changed you a lot. Hurt big time.

Like slider, I've been thru this too. You can't change it cos you can't control it from happening. You can only accept it as her choice. Worst thing is, you can't tell anybody. You hide a lot. It becomes your second nature to try to hide cos the truth is too painful. Then in the moment of truth, she left you and all that you represents. The entire thing fell apart. Sometimes, a person can never pick himself up ever again. Imagine the damage you did to yourself. Sad

Yeah, 2 years is a very long time, especially when you have to go through the painful process of seeing her to work. We see each other almost daily for the matter of fact, send her to work and pick her up after work (well, there are times when she choose to hop into her customers' car - I got very upset). I enrolled her and pay for her courses to upgrade herself, buy notebook PC for her to learn computing, takes care of her mum and daughter too, in every ways, financially, daily living expenses, monthly fixed allowances and others etc.

I am close to her mum.....I also got to hid things from her mum, what she does at work. I told her mum that she is all I got, she represents my entire life. I am most willing, wont think twice, to take a bullet for her. When she choose to leave me, my world falls apart and I am aimless.

Now, 3.5 months later after separation, I felt so relax and relief, I guess the relationship is too stressful and straining, taking up all my time, energy and she have not one time gave me the feeling of loving me, I only felt being used throughout the 2 years period with her.

[slider_72]

Originally Posted by DTCEPL

Now, 3.5 months later after separation, I felt so relax and relief, I guess the relationship is too stressful and straining, taking up all my time, energy and she have not one time gave me the feeling of loving me, I only felt being used throughout the 2 years period with her.

Doesn't it come across to you as being really strange, now that we are able to think back and reflect on the silly things we did before. Somehow you just can't find any logical answer to the question why we did what we did. I am sure you knew in your head back then that she is not in love with you but your heart refused to accept the truth, and you soldier on to try to win her over.

Sigh... like what bro DYBJ said, the biggest culprit is the words 希望.

[DTCEPL]

Originally Posted by slider_72

Doesn't it come across to you as being really strange, now that we are able to think back and reflect on the silly things we did before. Somehow you just can't find any logical answer to the question why we did what we did. I am sure you knew in your head back then that she is not in love with you but your heart refused to accept the truth, and you soldier on to try to win her over.

Sigh... like what bro DYBJ said, the biggest culprit is the words 希望.

Yes, your are very right, I knew what will happen but my heart refused to accept the truth, I hang on the 'Hopes' and carry on day by day with that little hope. I always tot that giving love, giving all I could, can move even a person with a heart of stone.....I was wrong. I did not even move her abit from the start, I was used all along and she have nevered loved me.

Well that was the past.....now, day after day, I am coming to terms with reality.