woes of a tirak

[suteerak1099]

Originally Posted by hoodlum

...What sort of a girl are you marrying when after all that's done, would revert to the flesh trade once the $ is low? You sounded that you know the outcome but still went in for it? To accept her as she is is already hard, not to mention the constant fear and doubt when $ is low. Knowing all these and still accept all that is not 'unconditional love' but...I'm lost for words to describe.

bro, its not about fear or doubt. in any given case, there's planning for the days ahead to be done. if 1 just lives from day to day, no dreams/aspiration for better days ahead... then i living aint worth living anymore. its precisely bcos the WLs r in situations where fundamentals of living is already an issue which cos them to take this job. btw, feeding the extended family aint as scary as u assume to be, a better understanding of her background would give u a better idea for the necessary assumption accounts.

Originally Posted by hoodlum

Are you referring to marriages in Thailand only? Marriage proposals I know of are not 'Trump-like' as you put it. I don't justify to my in-laws when I got married, neither my relatives and friends. You shocked me. And what kind of in-laws are you in for? living off the earnings of their 'filial' daughter? And thereafter you! and probably the daughter again when your $ run out and she revert to her old trade.

u got away w it easy... cos i've seen my frens' cases that they're having a hard time convincing. not so much about in-laws suking/draining u dry.. bt its still our duties as children/son-in-laws to produce some form of allowance. do u mean to say u dont even fork out the least?

Originally Posted by hoodlum

What kind of a relationship is that? Always doubting, always fearing that you would be 'hollanded'.

its not about fear i say again...bt a gal can never find solace/happiness in a man who cant take the lead. its precisely bcos she's incapable of planning too far ahead, cos having 3 meals tmr already is an issue. hence, now that the man is in the driving seat, its the minimum that she being the co-pilot should be informed of the plans: short-term, mid-term & long-term.

Originally Posted by hoodlum

I have a question for you. Would you seriously encourage anyone to have a tirak relationship after you have expounded on all that?

As for me, my conviction is even stronger after reading all these stuff. It's more insane than I thought.

you take care
hoodlum

as i said b4 time n again, tirakship/rships if taken seriously enough.. these issues should have already been considered & necessary action plans to engage/evade anticipated problems should've long been in the itinerary. regadless of nationalities.. if simple family planning+aspirations for better future arent the least being considered.. then my deepest condolences to those who dont.. bcos all hell will break loose...just wait n see.

[hoodlum]

Originally Posted by suteerak1099

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u got away w it easy... cos i've seen my frens' cases that they're having a hard time convincing. not so much about in-laws suking/draining u dry.. bt its still our duties as children/son-in-laws to produce some form of allowance. do u mean to say u dont even fork out the least?

For a start, I wouldn't care 2 hoots about sub-humans who live off the ill-gotten earnings of their flesh and blood. And let's not belabour about being poor as an excuse. Thais are not the only poor ppl. There are so many examples of extremely poor families but they would never ever thought of letting their daughters into this.

Just like our very diverse perspectives, I even believe now that your personal experiences are not the norm. As a parent, I am one, would I demand all these from my future son-in-law though he may be poor [at the point of proposal], but of good integrity and that the 2 are deeply in love? Hell no!. So I didn't get away easy, but rather I have good in-laws. As for monthly allowances, again they didn't demand but we give a +++en sum as a form of filial piety.

Frankly from all the posts and counter posts, you gave an impression that you are obssessed [all these blueprints, mind maps etc] with trying to make a relationship with a WL work with all the known incompatibilities. And in the process, you are building a shield to mitigate any counter world views, rational or otherwise, to achieve this. It's an irony cos on one hand, I secretly wish you will fail and come back advising potential brus here. I'm not evil lah, but you have to agree with me the majority will fail, right? On the other hand, I'll like to wish you all the best for your persistence. Heck! this is obsession. As in life, you can't have it all.

Cheerios
hoodlum

[suteerak1099]

Originally Posted by sex maniac

stop wasting your breath on this suteerak1099. he is insecure and he needs to whine about Thai whores on the internet. get a life. he should go to Golden Mile and Orchard Towers and hang out with free!

SM, apparently your limited vocab, limited knowledge about thai, limited brain mass & capacity confines u to only such lame posts. wanna congratulate you for the immense breathtaking effort...now that u're finally capable of more than the usual '1liners'. *clap clap*

insecurity & needs.. haha. bro... as far as i'm concerned. i'm honestly quite contented. whining so u say... haha seems to me, not only do u not know pasah-thai, bt ur english aint no better...suggest perhaps u should 1st buck up on ur english vocab b4 u start attempting to throw in some sarcasm here.

Originally Posted by sex maniac

stop giving your unrealistic advices to unsuspecting bros here. i advice you to go out and hang out in Golden Mile and Orchard Towers and pretend you are in Thailand. you Thai national wannabe poser!

how do u justify them to be unrealisitc? at least bro free has undergone those issues personally. whilest ur's r nothing but lame fables that u fantasize about. SM... my earnest suggestion to u...stop making a fool of urself here

[suteerak1099]

Originally Posted by sex maniac

firstly i thought you are only a Thai language professor. now you are also a consultant? stop giving stupid advices and quickly move to Thailand. you are a real joke!

SM, i think the biggest lamest joke of all is none other than u. here it is, bro free n SM presenting their cases to zunbo, as he's in need of some opinions & appropirate advise for his isolated case of TRCR. needless to say its none of ur concern.. n bcos its none of ur concern.. i suggest u can keep the comments to urself.

so wat if others around wish to lend helping hand, so wat if others here can offer free consultations.. wat concern is it of ur's? & btw i'm very certain many here in SBF would be glad to give u free face rearrangement & lots more... being the sado-masochist that u've been proven to be...i think it'd be an offer u cant refuse.

[Hasa Sas]

Originally Posted by hoodlum

you gave an impression that you are obssessed [all these blueprints, mind maps etc] with trying to make a relationship with a WL work with all the known incompatibilities.
Cheerios
hoodlum

One's has to experience himself in order to know the truth
Flesh and blood we are make of
Getting emotional and craving is inevitable

[free]

Originally Posted by sex maniac

stop giving your unrealistic advices to unsuspecting bros here. i advice you to go out and hang out in Golden Mile and Orchard Towers and pretend you are in Thailand. you Thai national wannabe poser!

Unrealistic - of course they are unrealistic to you! You are a fake - even ur past postings are probably self0-created fatansizes that u perhaps dreamed up to boast yr pea-sized ego, but it got busted rather quickly didn't it?

I help Zunbo cos he is my personal frd and he comes to talk to me face-to-face. You? Just hide behind the monitor and throw darts? Guess by now u can only release yrself that way - maybe pcc also got problems cos u accidently confessed u had cauliflowers in place of a male penis, do u remember? At least mine is real lah, else my tirak say bye bye long time agon liao. Your tirak told you to buzz off remember? U yrself say one! Not other ppl say. So who is the one being laughed at?


GM, yes I go there quite frequently, though wouldn't say I hangout out there. Better places to go for hanging out! Anyway, care to join me there? Can show u a thingy or 2, my little boy. Maybe I'll find some time to teach your how to use a cauliflower hor?

Orchard Towers? Hmm I seldom go, but if u so keen (cos so deprived mah), I can intro u to a nice sexy gal frd of mine who hangs out there often when she comes to this shores. Used to work in my BKK pub. Can't quite call her my nong but pretty close to that. Pretty, slim, voluptous (36C+) and ..... just great...


Her good frd too. Their tarma damn solid one u know? Like to be the Ham in the sandwich? U think u can afford them? Maybe speak enuf thai to convince them to give you FOC? Oh I forgot, it also has to depend on whether they keen on u or not.... chances u dun qualify leh... And when they know u got cauliflowers, they sure shake heads one..... Dream on buddy

wanna know what Real is? ever heard of angteng, way b4 GL even exist? Not likely... think u not born yet lah, or at best still sucking yr thumbs then.

[suteerak1099]

Originally Posted by hoodlum

you gave an impression that you are obssessed [all these blueprints, mind maps etc] with trying to make a relationship with a WL work with all the known incompatibilities.
Cheerios
hoodlum

Originally Posted by Hasa Sas

One's has to experience himself in order to know the truth
Flesh and blood we are make of
Getting emotional and craving is inevitable

as the chinese saying goes: "ben lai wu yi wu, he chu re chen ai" - where there is no matter, nowhere can the dust/dirt settle
it is human nature to long for companionship, for interactions & emotional comforts. solitude is not wat normal beings can endure, needless to say to quench physical/emotional thirsts. its easy to comment & say that it is needless to resort to finding any relationships in the GL scene, yet if its not for the KC/GF feelings.. then there's literally no need for being particular who/what race 1 is bonking with. if patronage is solely based on that piece of flesh, then it wouldnt make any difference if 1 uses the sex toy/blow-up doll.

fact is, it is precisely due to the human touch, spontaneity, correspondence, interactions, intimacy, KC/GF feeling that 1 returns for more holistic pleasures. things that the WL/FL do for a better job done, to win that loyal customers' return, deserves not condemnation. relationships clear as they're cut as transactions presents not the perils, thrills & spills as many have now experienced.

the heart is not vulnerable if the heart seeks not wat is being presented.

the ball is then in his court, if he shall respond to heighten or dampen the progress of the relationship. noone should be blamed/flamed, for matters of the hearts is purely 1's own entitlement.

ask not if u do not seek, seek not if u do not want, want not if u do not need. if the vacuum remains unfulfilled, 1 shall continue the perilous journey seeking to fulfill that need. command we may not of other's feelings/desires, but to grant them blessings & well wishes for their perilous journey...where-ever they may find it.

emotions & feelings are not parallel lines that grow infinite, for when time is given, n efforts invested, incompatibilities can soon become a thing of the past.

chok dee na krup~!

[free]

Originally Posted by Hasa Sas

One's has to experience himself in order to know the truth
Flesh and blood we are make of
Getting emotional and craving is inevitable

Great and wise words bro . Will certainly meditate upon them. Up u 5 pts man.

I think it applies to all of us. Those who had experienced the "bad" needs to experience the "good" too. And those who knew the "good" must also recognize the "bad". Only then can we move one more step forward.

Sigh, getting emotional also refers to getting upset. I guilty leh
Ok, not upset anymore, damn bo liao. Dun call ppl dog liao.
KNN every time I retort might as well send an sms/email to my tirak (and Internet swerthearts) and deposit into their emotional account

[free]

Originally Posted by sex maniac

and pretend you are in Thailand. you Thai national wannabe poser!

U too young to have yr own passport or what? Like so jealous like that... tsk, tsk. I dun need to pretend to be in thailand lah, If I want to go, I just fly there loh!. Tirak waiting there anyway, not like someone can only hope to go GM and OT.

BTW, do you even realised that your natural, ethnic language is not English? You speak/read/write english as well as u do today because some ago, in the past not too far away, we all kena "forced" by one man in our country's short history. Or perhaps u too young to know even the recent past? Actually at one pt, SG was trying to be a Switzerland wannabe you know?

So what does that make you? A farang wannabe?


There are so just many things u still dun know, O little one. Next time (if u survive) learn to take on someone whose age and experience is closer you lah. Life will be much easier. No need top Bpuat Hua and hide face and squeeze balls everyday. And start scolding other ppl's mother. Damn low class u know? Dun need to be reduced to silly & useless one-liners that made u like the The Ultimate Fool and Born-Loser. So u got a lot of PMs thanking you for your posts that somehow touched them? See ur pts also know the answer liao.

BTW, now I not angry lah. talked to mummy about ppl anyhow scold other ppls mums. Mummy said this one siow kia and also gina-kia. Talk also noby listen one. No need get upset lah. So I won't.

[hoodlum]

Originally Posted by Hasa Sas

One's has to experience himself in order to know the truth
Flesh and blood we are make of
Getting emotional and craving is inevitable

Don't agree on that. A number of things in life you don't necessary have to have first hand experience to pass a judgement, eg. drugs. It is within the realm of logical and rational norm. Like I previously posted, if we can't agree on fundamental social tenets, and here I'm referring to generally accepted social norms, then we have to agree to disagree and settle as that.


hoodlum

[Hasa Sas]

Originally Posted by free

Sigh, getting emotional also refers to getting upset. I guilty leh
Ok, not upset anymore, damn bo liao. Dun call ppl dog liao.
KNN every time I retort might as well send an sms/email to my tirak (and Internet swerthearts) and deposit into their emotional account

Thks bro free

Since everything only comes to go, all we can do is to treasure
everything without attachment- from moment to moment

Keeping the mind wounded by anger and upset, I will never
experience peace.

Cheers

[Hasa Sas]

Originally Posted by hoodlum

Don't agree on that. A number of things in life you don't necessary have to have first hand experience to pass a judgement, eg. drugs. It is within the realm of logical and rational norm. Like I previously posted, if we can't agree on fundamental social tenets, and here I'm referring to generally accepted social norms, then we have to agree to disagree and settle as that.


hoodlum

Well, bro suteerak show strong determination to seek his
true happiness and goal. The outcome is still unknown and it
could be turn out in favour of him or vice versa.
Although the success rate is absolutely slim, it can only
be proven at the end of the day. Althought,it is not
encouraging for him to take this path,i would still give him my blessing.

Needless to say about drugs, one already know the harm
and causes of it.

[free]

Originally Posted by hoodlum

Don't agree on that. A number of things in life you don't necessary have to have first hand experience to pass a judgement, eg. drugs. It is within the realm of logical and rational norm. Like I previously posted, if we can't agree on fundamental social tenets, and here I'm referring to generally accepted social norms, then we have to agree to disagree and settle as that.

hoodlum

Guess I am looking at this from a very personal perspective. Only when one personally experience something, can the deep understanding be there. Generally not needed but sometimes....yes...

[suteerak1099]

Originally Posted by Hasa Sas

Well, bro suteerak show strong determination to seek his
true happiness and goal. The outcome is still unknown and it
could be turn out in favour of him or vice versa.
Although the success rate is absolutely slim, it can only
be proven at the end of the day. Althought,it is not
encouraging for him to take this path,i would still give him my blessing.

Needless to say about drugs, one already know the harm
and causes of it.

kun hasas sas.. for your blessings n well-wishes.. i truly am appreciative and grateful. fate chose to toy w my feelings but now its my own efforts to sculpt fate into faith. keeping my fingers crossed for a better future... korb kun mak krup~!~!

[hoodlum]

Originally Posted by Hasa Sas

...
Needless to say about drugs, one already know the harm
and causes of it.

Drugs is one of many world view examples conforming to social norms. Another is to steer clear of WL relationship. Irrespective of the outcome of such a relationship, it is generally frown upon. You don't have to agree with me. Just bring this discussion to another forum or take a poll and you know what I mean.

chilled out
hoodlum