woes of a tirak

Originally Posted by zunbo

Me on this topic...

My gal just told me that she will be going back soon..... Hmmm....Don't know shd be happy or sad....

Happy; simple! She don't have to 'Open her legs' to earn money anymore.

Sad; cos i might be able to see her anymore and i kinda worry abt her future. Like how will life be for her? will she be able to support herself when she goes home? My worst and most fear thoughts, she will go back into this line if she needs the $$ to support her family.

so many other issues going round my mind....

You are happy because you think she wont have to open her legs to earn money. You are sad because you not sure she will have to open her legs again to earn money. So how??

What ever it is, just wish her all the best lah.

So what other issues going through your mind? care to share?

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by zunbo

Me on this topic...

My gal just told me that she will be going back soon..... Hmmm....Don't know shd be happy or sad....

Happy; simple! She don't have to 'Open her legs' to earn money anymore.

Sad; cos i might be able to see her anymore and i kinda worry abt her future. Like how will life be for her? will she be able to support herself when she goes home? My worst and most fear thoughts, she will go back into this line if she needs the $$ to support her family.

so many other issues going round my mind....

Paiseh zunbo,

Let me bring you back to earth. Your woe will be you cannot see her so often and worry that she go back and whether she will need to open her legs to earn money. These are the only primary worries that you are thinking now.

Secondary worries will be whether the 2 of you will be happily ever after.

let me tell you the true fact. She will go back to the same old line if she need the $$ to support her family. Because that is why she is here in singapore. For the $$ lor.

You believe the money she earned in GL can be finished in Thailand within a year? Don't believe?

My 1st tirak who work in GL before, within 1 year money finish. The amount she bring back is in terms of million baht. In General, they have poor sense of finance management and do not know how to manage money well.

The most you can do is pray for her and wish her all the best. Her future might be better if she continue working in this line till her expiry date.

SC

[zunbo]

Wow..... SC u hit on sia...... You actually know what's going on in my mind... Yap... u are right abt the money issue. Hope she will be able to manage her money well.. NOT giving it to the BASTARD relatives who will come from everyway just to take her $$$

Happily ever after.... Nah.... never dare to think so far. Just take everything a step at a time. Not even sure how far this will go..

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by zunbo

Wow..... SC u hit on sia...... You actually know what's going on in my mind... Yap... u are right abt the money issue. Hope she will be able to manage her money well.. NOT giving it to the BASTARD relatives who will come from everyway just to take her $$$

Happily ever after.... Nah.... never dare to think so far. Just take everything a step at a time. Not even sure how far this will go..

Because my 1st tirak already I was thinking the same like you. So what most of you guys thinking, I already know what some of you want.

Now I on my 7th term internship, so I numbed already. We must be practical and not think so much.

My 1st tirak in England working. Back to flesh trade 1 year after ORD from GL. Always tell me cb pain must go and see doctor. Work in GL after 1 year say cannot tahan ramming. Even body cannot take it still must think because of money.

If you ask me whether I pity her? I only pity her with her way of thinking. Thats all.

SC

[Mr.romance]

Originally Posted by zunbo

Wow..... SC u hit on sia...... You actually know what's going on in my mind... Yap... u are right abt the money issue. Hope she will be able to manage her money well.. NOT giving it to the BASTARD relatives who will come from everyway just to take her $$$

Happily ever after.... Nah.... never dare to think so far. Just take everything a step at a time. Not even sure how far this will go..

Sorry for the interference.U had to pray hard on her money management.
Only 1 out of 10 WL can manage it well...I mean ok only.U will be shock by the way they spend money. Its like running water from the tap.They do not have savings plan in their mind. & worse of all they wan face. So they like to use money to look good on themselves also.

Chok dee krup

[naemlo]

Originally Posted by Mr.romance

Sorry for the interference.U had to pray hard on her money management.
Only 1 out of 10 WL can manage it well...I mean ok only.U will be shock by the way they spend money. Its like running water from the tap.They do not have savings plan in their mind. & worse of all they wan face. So they like to use money to look good on themselves also.

Chok dee krup

The lao jiao is speaking. How he knows this, cos his Pxx does all these.

[free]

Originally Posted by zunbo

Wow..... SC u hit on sia...... You actually know what's going on in my mind... Yap... u are right abt the money issue. Hope she will be able to manage her money well.. NOT giving it to the BASTARD relatives who will come from everyway just to take her $$$

Happily ever after.... Nah.... never dare to think so far. Just take everything a step at a time. Not even sure how far this will go..

Zunbo, I have asked you many times liao. Where are you now? Given what you have told me, you should really know where u stand - look into yr heart and be honest with your conscience. The answer is already there if u dare look at it. If u dun even know where u are now, it is going to be hard to even think how far this will go. U either find out what u need to know, or forget the whole thing. U dun seem to know enough of things about her and with the date drawing near, it is just not looking good.

Ultimately it is yr call. You alone must face the music or reap the harvest.

U already know where u can meet others from a different environment. Make a decision and act. You've been at this hentak-kaki stage for too long now. Seems to becoming a bit masochistic to me. There is no point sitting there wringling your hands, for nothing is going to change an iota.

[suteerak1099]

Originally Posted by sex maniac

http://forum.sammyboy.com/showthread.php?p=1000909
http://forum.sammyboy.com/showthread.php?p=1001292

SM, so wat r u trying to prove by linking to your previous posts? help the rest of us to justify the fact that u're not only an incompetant copy-cat or a parrot repeating urself?

i dunno wat agendas/issues against TGs & WLs, all i know is u have little/no respect for anyone/everyone around u. to date u're still confined to yr own world of fantasy, thinking u know best when u know little/nothing at all. u're nt even receptive to the fundamental theories of inter-personal rships, n u amuse us all w matter in regards to yr self-scripted, self-directed, self-play acted world of tirakship.

i do admit that in the recent past, i've been enlightened about matters that i've never imagined, reality that we've somehow been blinded to/ignorant to. sharing this enlightenment has indefinately drawn some unnecessary attention (flaming/name-calling) from ppl who oppose, for that i'm still appreciative. appreciative nt bcos of the attention but for the credibility of the contents/insights that've gotten me thinking & better prepare me for uncertainties that may present itself in the coming times ahead.

unlike u...being the clown that u've always been, avoiding the issues like a headless snake. if anything, be a man- stand ur own ground n justify ur thoughts. quoting & reciting wats been said/posted aint gonna justify much about u, let alone how shallow or hollow the hull u've got for a skull.

nvm if u find the posts amusing/entertaining...they're for ppl w brains to ingest n digest. thanx

[suteerak1099]

Originally Posted by zunbo

...Happy; simple! She don't have to 'Open her legs' to earn money anymore.

Sad; cos i might be able to see her anymore and i kinda worry abt her future. Like how will life be for her? will she be able to support herself when she goes home? My worst and most fear thoughts, she will go back into this line if she needs the $$ to support her family.

so many other issues going round my mind....

ZB, no need to worry so much. if she decides its time to ORD only got few reasons:
1) she's sick n tired of the job (may even lost all taste for sex)
2) she's hit her target earnings-suffice to sustain family for a gd few yrs
3) she's been offered better prospects somewhere else
4) she's sick & tired of being the breadwinner for the family & need a man to help her with all the issues.

could be more reasons, hve a gd talk w her n see how u can make the difference.

[OceanEleven]

Originally Posted by zunbo

Happy; simple! She don't have to 'Open her legs' to earn money anymore.

Sad; cos i might be able to see her anymore and i kinda worry abt her future. Like how will life be for her? will she be able to support herself when she goes home? My worst and most fear thoughts, she will go back into this line if she needs the $$ to support her family.

View it in a lighter tone. Afterall this is the time where you will know where you stand and plan for the next move.

[suteerak1099]

Originally Posted by zunbo

...You actually know what's going on in my mind... Yap... u are right abt the money issue. Hope she will be able to manage her money well.. NOT giving it to the BASTARD relatives who will come from everyway just to take her $$$

Happily ever after.... Nah.... never dare to think so far. Just take everything a step at a time. Not even sure how far this will go..

zunbo, i suggest u do a mind map-similiar to a business plan by nature. consider the possibilities, the worst case scenarios... n if there anything left after moderation.

i dunno how other tiraks here feel or have to offer for their gal, honestly, i'm just as concerned about my gal's future too. for someone who once had nothing, now can afford almost everything/anything in LOS.. its a sure bet that the debits will soon exceed her stagnant credits. having little/no valuable skills to heighten their salary cap(if employed).. almost a sure bet that she'd return to the trade.

the question now is, how prepared r u emotionally, mentally, physically... last & definately not the least financially, to make her the offer she'd be foolish to reject. (apologies if this seems like some sales talk) but this applies across the board for most rships. if the offer is feasible & good enough... her family would almost immediately give u her hand in marraige, knowing well that the filial daughter is in good hands (whether or not they take u as their ATM is still subjective). marriage today in any context regardless of nationality-more so on our homesoil. marriage proposal these days can figuratively be transposed/comparable to a job interview w/ "donald trump" aka the future father-in-law.

the man's gotta justify his value/worth, career stability, bank account statement (if possible), to convince the future in-laws that he's capable of feeding the daughter (although she is working & self-sufficient). before i drift too far... this is also believed to be the same in the context of the TG tirakship-though demands n needs could vary from case to case.

funny it seems as though we're buying a cow... bt i guess thats how the whole concept of dowry & customary gift exchange came about lol

am not saying that u must marry her, nor should u be financing her out of pity... if u believe that there's a sequel with her in the tirakship(after ur evaluation) then perhaps there's something worth striving for. taking a step at a time is gd, bt dont forget to look ahead every once in awhile for the general direction, so u dont get hollanded.

take heart bro... u're a gd man w gd heart. am sure she knows u more than any of us do. the choice is for both u & her to work it out...jai yen yen.

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by suteerak1099

zunbo, i suggest u do a mind map-similiar to a business plan by nature. consider the possibilities, the worst case scenarios... n if there anything left after moderation.

i dunno how other tiraks here feel or have to offer for their gal, honestly, i'm just as concerned about my gal's future too. for someone who once had nothing, now can afford almost everything/anything in LOS.. its a sure bet that the debits will soon exceed her stagnant credits. having little/no valuable skills to heighten their salary cap(if employed).. almost a sure bet that she'd return to the trade.

the question now is, how prepared r u emotionally, mentally, physically... last & definately not the least financially, to make her the offer she'd be foolish to reject. (apologies if this seems like some sales talk) but this applies across the board for most rships. if the offer is feasible & good enough... her family would almost immediately give u her hand in marraige, knowing well that the filial daughter is in good hands (whether or not they take u as their ATM is still subjective). marriage today in any context regardless of nationality-more so on our homesoil. marriage proposal these days can figuratively be transposed/comparable to a job interview w/ "donald trump" aka the future father-in-law.

the man's gotta justify his value/worth, career stability, bank account statement (if possible), to convince the future in-laws that he's capable of feeding the daughter (although she is working & self-sufficient). before i drift too far... this is also believed to be the same in the context of the TG tirakship-though demands n needs could vary from case to case.

Don't step into the hole so fast by thinking of so many plans.
Go to her house in province and stay for 2 months at least then you got 2 months to think and plan. (thats if you think its feasible)

If not think so much is not constructive. Waste time, waste brain cells. Doing things in a practical manner is better than thinking of what we should do. Being in the thick of action.

You can think of many plans, stuff, businesses, but if the person don't want to do, you have how much money also no use. They can spend millions of baht easily within a year, more than what many of us combined are earning.

SC

Like Bro free said, does zunbo knows where he stands?
And has Zunbo's girl actually asked him what are they going to do after she ORD? If not, that is the end. No need to think so much.
When she ORD, go thailand look for her and have a good time. then say bye bye, hope to see you again when I come to thailand..

[free]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

Don't step into the hole so fast by thinking of so many plans.
Go to her house in province and stay for 2 months at least then you got 2 months to think and plan. (thats if you think its feasible)

If not think so much is not constructive. Waste time, waste brain cells. Doing things in a practical manner is better than thinking of what we should do. Being in the thick of action.

You can think of many plans, stuff, businesses, but if the person don't want to do, you have how much money also no use. They can spend millions of baht easily within a year, more than what many of us combined are earning.

SC

In all fairness, one does not go to a gal's house and stay for 2 months in her house just like that! Certainly not at the 1st visit. Ad there is nothing wrong with planning - it is a very individual thingy. Some thrive on it and then work to plan, others delay it or even avoid planning (like many TGs).

Having said that, I agree with you it is important to visit her at her home and if possible stay with them for a few days. Chances are u will not be able to sleep in the same room as her (I would be perturbed if her parents have no objections to u 2 sleeping in the same room and at the 1st visit too!). And one is prepared to sleep with her male siblings or other relatives, and she still is against the idea of your visiting, I can only conclude that the person does not hold a prominent place in her heart. IMHO, this is worse if she was a WL who had completed her tour of duty, cos normally she will have a lot of say, being the breadwinner of the family.

This is a very impt stage and I urge bros (whose situations are applicable) to make sure it happens. My visit to my tirak's mum and granny made a lot of difference and it helps to confirm what I had been told plus I can see where the fuiture is going for us. W/o seeing things with yr own eyes, one can never be sure.

If one can't even go to see yr tirak cos she is against the idea, when the time has come (eg, she returns home after ORD), there is really nothing talk about. Chances are that she does not want to have anything to do with her past, or she has someone else in mind. Perhaps there could be yet another reason - countries Like Bahr**n are waiting....a round 2 may be starting.

And finally SM and yr clones, if u are thinking of some idiotic things to say just simply cos I posted here. before u say any more stupid things, please be reminded that you have not reached this stage (if u ever will) and therefore u are NOT qualified to open ur mouth. Anything u say just makes u a bigger and louder empty vessel, so be wise - shut-up

[hoodlum]

Bru, just a few comments.

Originally Posted by suteerak1099

.. almost a sure bet that she'd return to the trade.

What sort of a girl are you marrying when after all that's done, would revert to the flesh trade once the $ is low? You sounded that you know the outcome but still went in for it? To accept her as she is is already hard, not to mention the constant fear and doubt when $ is low. Knowing all these and still accept all that is not 'unconditional love' but...I'm lost for words to describe.

the question now is, how prepared r u emotionally, mentally, physically... last & definately not the least financially, to make her the offer she'd be foolish to reject. (apologies if this seems like some sales talk) but this applies across the board for most rships. if the offer is feasible & good enough... her family would almost immediately give u her hand in marraige, knowing well that the filial daughter is in good hands (whether or not they take u as their ATM is still subjective). marriage today in any context regardless of nationality-more so on our homesoil. marriage proposal these days can figuratively be transposed/comparable to a job interview w/ "donald trump" aka the future father-in-law.
the man's gotta justify his value/worth, career stability, bank account statement (if possible), to convince the future in-laws that he's capable of feeding the daughter (although she is working & self-sufficient). before i drift too far... this is also believed to be the same in the context of the TG tirakship-though demands n needs could vary from case to case.

Are you referring to marriages in Thailand only? Marriage proposals I know of are not 'Trump-like' as you put it. I don't justify to my in-laws when I got married, neither my relatives and friends. You shocked me. And what kind of in-laws are you in for? living off the earnings of their 'filial' daughter? And thereafter you! and probably the daughter again when your $ run out and she revert to her old trade.

...bt dont forget to look ahead every once in awhile for the general direction, so u dont get hollanded.

What kind of a relationship is that? Always doubting, always fearing that you would be 'hollanded'.



I have a question for you. Would you seriously encourage anyone to have a tirak relationship after you have expounded on all that?

As for me, my conviction is even stronger after reading all these stuff. It's more insane than I thought.

you take care
hoodlum