not only that, they dont even need to be good at teasing or massage or time management. that is why its call 卖笑。 the smile of a lady is worth a thousand lives.
Damn , you're right dude! These vanilla girls dont seem to be good at anything. SN. Lousy massage. No sensual catbath, lick nipple etc. Green sop hj. Lousy time management. Yet get high praises. Kaoz !
But that's what the sg market now only requires mah. All easily satisfied and willing to part premium money for just basics mah. So the girls will naturally exploit this easy opportunity mah.
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Sadly this seems to be the trend now. All the supposed newer girls, this Amy, Qing Tian, Jelly, Fiona, Tina, all no BJ and only SN!! Anran n Xiao Yu gets lots of airtime here and both oso SN / no BJ. This ain't good at all man. Sigh.
Missing the good old days of Zhu Zhu, Zi yu, Xiao Xiao, Angel, Meng Meng, Zu Er, Xia Xia !!
Actually I find some of your comments interesting. Correct me if I am wrong but I am guessing you bros belong to the newer generations? I belong to the generation where massage is topped up by 'specials' in a spa joint. I ran around scouting for good spa joints then, and practically have to 'commando' every time to find a good regular. When Sammyboy was finally the forum to share information, even then, the info was without pictures and you have to describe as much as you possibly can to share reviews for spa joints. With the introduction of home based massage, it was quite the same just that you do it at a more cosy environment. The sharing and review then was to find the best value ML who are willing to do just a little more. But the difference were obvious, either you are FL or ML. And basic standard has always been vanilla standard. Of course there will be some who provides slightly more for selected few. Humans being humans, get ambitious and less contented, and will compare who does more and basically display the typical singaporean cheapo values of, 'want cheap, want green, want big boobs'.
Then things changed with the implosion of the JS gals, and they become the basic standard. Honestly I detest the comparison of standards, as different MLs feed different needs. Vanilla like Tian Niu excelled and I am sure some of these gals here will too. More gals does not mean better qualities. And even with such little selection, there will still be bad MLs being ostracised or put aside. So, if you do not provide decent services, you will not survive anyway. Law of nature.
That is very true. I look for homebased ML for a very different need. That's why the hardcore ones like Xue Er, Nat and Zhuzhu while offering tremendous value for money do not get much RTM. Its the ones who offer good GFE and a good chat that makes me keep going back. When I need a good release I go to GL which I'm upset is not opening yet. When I really need a good massage I hop over to spas like Natureland. Different days, different needs. There is no one size fits all service. On your lucky day you may find a woman that does all but thats few and far between.
That is very true. I look for homebased ML for a very different need. That's why the hardcore ones like Xue Er, Nat and Zhuzhu while offering tremendous value for money do not get much RTM. Its the ones who offer good GFE and a good chat that makes me keep going back. When I need a good release I go to GL which I'm upset is not opening yet. When I really need a good massage I hop over to spas like Natureland. Different days, different needs. There is no one size fits all service. On your lucky day you may find a woman that does all but thats few and far between.
This. Exactly.
Last time I used to rotate between vanilla and flavored ones to get a different feel. Though the latter can give good GFE and companionship too, at least those whom I was a regular of.
support this...
been my regular for quite some time
playability high indeed.. always left as a sextified and drained man as compared to what's available..
support this...
been my regular for quite some time
playability high indeed.. always left as a sextified and drained man as compared to what's available..
Bro, spend about 5mins looking back at some of the past pages and you will find plenty of answers there, or better still, use the search button and enter "SYT", it will give you all the information you need
People like us 好心 give reviews which is non obligatory fyi, and the least you could do you search them yourself. Cheers
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Then things changed with the implosion of the JS gals, and they become the basic standard. Honestly I detest the comparison of standards, as different MLs feed different needs. Vanilla like Tian Niu excelled and I am sure some of these gals here will too. More gals does not mean better qualities. And even with such little selection, there will still be bad MLs being ostracised or put aside. So, if you do not provide decent services, you will not survive anyway. Law of nature.
Bro you probably miss one important point lah, that under the current ML scene that is unlikely to improve in the near future, the ML will dictate the "terms" because there won't be constant new blood coming in to compete. Which is why the more we rave about very basic menu types of service from these current crops, the more it will be perceived as the customer base here have accepted a reduced level from them. As some bros have commented, some of those girls that are being hyped now are those who hardly get a mention at all when more comprehensive services ML are around. If we can all agree that this thread has certain influence on the ML industry, then we are not doing ourselves favor as paying customers by indirectly telling the ML that offering less is fine. They will in turn spread within their circle and very soon this will be the norm. Worst thing is like I pointed out,no infux of new blood will come in and try to compete by offering more, such as FN, BJ.
Anyway i don't feel JS is the yardstick. My most RTM MLs are all the supposed vanilla range, Donna,Ai la, Hebe, Tian Niu. But as consumers we need to have varieties, other girls whom are willing to offer more for SAME asking price. This keeps all MLs on their toes, as plain vanilla ML may provide higher GFE to offset their unwillingness to go FN or BJ. Look at the scene now, all the new entrants, none of them FN or BJ. Is it a coincidence, who knows? But who is to say it isn't because they realised that no need offer so much coz ML with basic services are hyped so much oredi!
Anyway is up to individual lah, just stating my views that the trend is not looking great and it COULD be due to our own doing. Let's just hope some new listing will at least be offering more, cos when no competition exists, us consumer will be the one losing out. Peace ✌
support this...
been my regular for quite some time
playability high indeed.. always left as a sextified and drained man as compared to what's available..
Bro you probably miss one important point lah, that under the current ML scene that is unlikely to improve in the near future, the ML will dictate the "terms" because there won't be constant new blood coming in to compete. Which is why the more we rave about very basic menu types of service from these current crops, the more it will be perceived as the customer base here have accepted a reduced level from them. As some bros have commented, some of those girls that are being hyped now are those who hardly get a mention at all when more comprehensive services ML are around. If we can all agree that this thread has certain influence on the ML industry, then we are not doing ourselves favor as paying customers by indirectly telling the ML that offering less is fine. They will in turn spread within their circle and very soon this will be the norm. Worst thing is like I pointed out,no infux of new blood will come in and try to compete by offering more, such as FN, BJ.
Anyway i don't feel JS is the yardstick. My most RTM MLs are all the supposed vanilla range, Donna,Ai la, Hebe, Tian Niu. But as consumers we need to have varieties, other girls whom are willing to offer more for SAME asking price. This keeps all MLs on their toes, as plain vanilla ML may provide higher GFE to offset their unwillingness to go FN or BJ. Look at the scene now, all the new entrants, none of them FN or BJ. Is it a coincidence, who knows? But who is to say it isn't because they realised that no need offer so much coz ML with basic services are hyped so much oredi!
Anyway is up to individual lah, just stating my views that the trend is not looking great and it COULD be due to our own doing. Let's just hope some new listing will at least be offering more, cos when no competition exists, us consumer will be the one losing out. Peace ✌
Aiyo, things moved with time and needs. If what you say is true, no new blood, no competition, base menu level etc, then the price should not be at its current level. It would be $150/ $200 or higher, because supply so low, and we have no choice but to accept it. The way I see it. the price did not change much, of course gradually increasing in line with inflation, and personally I did not see a drop in what was offered since I chiong in early days. We can compare to China, Vietnam for all we want, but the supply and demand is different. Compare it to local singaporean FLs and they are already half price or even less, but the satisfaction when we release are the same? Honestly I was worried when covid hit that I will be pccing at home for a long time to come, but I didn't see any changes from pre-covid days. I still get my fix, and not enough money to do them all, lol
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