Woes of a Cat 40 tirak.

[suteerak1099]

Originally Posted by thekiller

I am not hiding. I am just trying to protect my tirak identity and also I know my parents will not be happy. Sometimes, it is so difficult to give a very win-win situation in life.

sometimes?? friend.. welcome to the real world.. nothing in life is ever a win-win situation.

[suteerak1099]

Originally Posted by thekiller

My parents already know that I am seeing her. I am facing the music now.

Of cos I will want to marry her in LOS cos this is the only way. But my tirak and I both agree that the child must be raised in SG. Better education and the child will remain a Singaporean.

The future of moving to LOS will have to wait. I need to be financially stable until the day I die in LOS so I need to earn and save as much as possible.

friend, i dont know if you're having a clear mind by posting so, what seems to me... you just slapped yourself big time.

1) you want your kid(s) to receive education in SG
2) you want to reside in LOS
3) you want to retire & die in LOS

do your math properly... will you even have a retirement? and what are your chances of dying in SG more so than dying in LOS...


unless you're a high achiever with fat payroll. but by then.. with that kind of payroll & expendable loose cash on hand... am quite certain you'd upgrade & change targets.

all i can say is, on avg scale... for you to put your kid(s) thru education until he/she/they are self-sufficient... you can forget about retirement.

many may think i'm talking crap: pls go check out the retirement planner in the CPF site... and ask yourself(ves), what kind of profession here in SG can give you your hopeful, decent retirment in decades to come.

[suteerak1099]

Originally Posted by thekiller

I hope bros who have been silently reading my posts will learn the woes and joys of tirakship. I hope tru my daily updates abt my current situation with my tirak will make u guys consider if u r ready for tirakship. Look at my complications now. Can u face them? I cannot say that I have cleared all the obstacles that I am facing but I want u bros to know what it is like to be in a tirakship.

friend, there've been tons of tirakship threads & woes belted out long before you came along to post.

by far, your case is just chicken feet to many who've been there & done that. (especially the tirakship master - SC, who's undergoing the 9th or 10th tirakship by now)

best of all, you're already having a big domestic issue to deal with. i believe this probably is the end of the tirakship journey for you liao..

Originally Posted by singrakthai

ya right.. ur "Thai peers" told u wan right? SGD$20k for a "decent house"? Thats only around half a million Thai baht... down payment is it? Ur "decent house" got how many bed rooms? House or apartment? Thailand is developing country... not 3rd world country leh...
Educated in S'pore no need allowances huh? No need pay for air tickets to see them? Ur parents will take care of them so no need employ guidance right?

My tirak says it is that much to bulid a house.

I will be taking care of the kids. The air tickets will be for my tirak who will do the flying here and there.

It will be quite sometime before I fly over to LOS and stay there. The short term goal now is to remain in SG and earn as much as I can. And also brush on my thai and understand their culture.

Originally Posted by suteerak1099

friend, i dont know if you're having a clear mind by posting so, what seems to me... you just slapped yourself big time.

1) you want your kid(s) to receive education in SG
2) you want to reside in LOS
3) you want to retire & die in LOS

do your math properly... will you even have a retirement? and what are your chances of dying in SG more so than dying in LOS...


unless you're a high achiever with fat payroll. but by then.. with that kind of payroll & expendable loose cash on hand... am quite certain you'd upgrade & change targets.

all i can say is, on avg scale... for you to put your kid(s) thru education until he/she/they are self-sufficient... you can forget about retirement.

many may think i'm talking crap: pls go check out the retirement planner in the CPF site... and ask yourself(ves), what kind of profession here in SG can give you your hopeful, decent retirment in decades to come.

I did my Maths. I know I will have to wait for abt 20 years before I can make a move to LOS. Hopefully by then, my tirak and I are still together. If not, I dun mind being a single Dad.

I understand the living standard in SG is very high. But SG has a better education. Like I say, my tirak and I are banging on the kids to feed us next time. Hence, we decided that the SG education is important.

Originally Posted by suteerak1099

friend, there've been tons of tirakship threads & woes belted out long before you came along to post.

by far, your case is just chicken feet to many who've been there & done that. (especially the tirakship master - SC, who's undergoing the 9th or 10th tirakship by now)

best of all, you're already having a big domestic issue to deal with. i believe this probably is the end of the tirakship journey for you liao..

U mean that's the end? Why? Can u explain?

[suteerak1099]

Originally Posted by redlord

tirakship right or wrong got no contest , alot are here to find love nest , there are more after finding love nest getting the most depressed....

Seems like you learn alot huh ?

if its truly love nest.. its possible to iron out the rest.
often those with new found zest, cant endure the test.
those are the ones ending up more depressed.

as i said, when i stepped into tirakship.. i wasnt all that gullible/naive as many think/perceive me to be.

[A_M_D]

Originally Posted by thekiller

I did my Maths. I know I will have to wait for abt 20 years before I can make a move to LOS. Hopefully by then, my tirak and I are still together. If not, I dun mind being a single Dad.

I understand the living standard in SG is very high. But SG has a better education. Like I say, my tirak and I are banging on the kids to feed us next time. Hence, we decided that the SG education is important.

Bro are u in ur young 20s

[suteerak1099]

Originally Posted by thekiller

20K SGD is more than enough for a decent house. As for daily expenses. I think $1200 SGD will be more than enough to feed a family for a month.

that kind of income is only for those planning for single-hood lah! you're looking at is easily 2 or 3 times the said amount. you seem to forget that in life - SHIT happens...

with that miserable start-up sum of SGD1200; you expect to feed the family, pay for utitilites, insurances, bills, maintain the family car/pick-up, medical savings, some spares/savings for rainy days, offer alms when the monks visit, more spares in case there's some red/white matters to attend etc.

family planning concerns; you're planning for 1 child, then suddenly kena twins, there's routine gynea check-up, all that scans & treatments to pay for, then come labor day - there's complications and need to do a C-section, then baby(ies) under intensive care for some days, the mother stays a little longer in hospital for recovery etc. then bring the family home; everything initially planned for now (x2) - milkpowder, diapers, vacinations, pediatric check up etc..

and at the end of the day, dont forget both your parents & in-laws are also accountable for as part of your liabilities... without your parents & hers.. the 2 of you still swimming

[suteerak1099]

Originally Posted by thekiller

Northern part of LOS. SGD $20K is really enough.

Like I say, my children willbe educated in SG.

friend, i truly believe you're literally clueless of what's involved & what to expect.

you choose to settle your family all the way up north, but your job/business is in the capital city - otherwise, you're unlikely to draw that kind of payroll... so;
1) where you going to live in krungthep?? which bus-stop? underneath which flyover?
2) what will you eat? left-overs from other's meals? fight with the dogs for remnants/scraps?

if your family have to be living seperately? how often will you reunite? what sense is it for you to be struggling in krungthep for a fraction of the income you can secure here, or any other part of the world?

worst of all, you want your wife settle in nuea, you settle in krungthep or some other part of LOS for work, your kid comes to be educated in SG... do you honestly think your family planning is screwed big time???

Originally Posted by suteerak1099

that kind of income is only for those planning for single-hood lah! you're looking at is easily 2 or 3 times the said amount. you seem to forget that in life - SHIT happens...

with that miserable start-up sum of SGD1200; you expect to feed the family, pay for utitilites, insurances, bills, maintain the family car/pick-up, medical savings, some spares/savings for rainy days, offer alms when the monks visit, more spares in case there's some red/white matters to attend etc.

family planning concerns; you're planning for 1 child, then suddenly kena twins, there's routine gynea check-up, all that scans & treatments to pay for, then come labor day - there's complications and need to do a C-section, then baby(ies) under intensive care for some days, the mother stays a little longer in hospital for recovery etc. then bring the family home; everything initially planned for now (x2) - milkpowder, diapers, vacinations, pediatric check up etc..

and at the end of the day, dont forget both your parents & in-laws are also accountable for as part of your liabilities... without your parents & hers.. the 2 of you still swimming

U mean monthly of SG$1200 is not enough to survive in Thailand. If with respect to Singapore of cos not enough. I am talking abt surviving in LOS with that amount of $$$.

Originally Posted by suteerak1099

friend, i truly believe you're literally clueless of what's involved & what to expect.

you choose to settle your family all the way up north, but your job/business is in the capital city - otherwise, you're unlikely to draw that kind of payroll... so;
1) where you going to live in krungthep?? which bus-stop? underneath which flyover?
2) what will you eat? left-overs from other's meals? fight with the dogs for remnants/scraps?

if your family have to be living seperately? how often will you reunite? what sense is it for you to be struggling in krungthep for a fraction of the income you can secure here, or any other part of the world?

worst of all, you want your wife settle in nuea, you settle in krungthep or some other part of LOS for work, your kid comes to be educated in SG... do you honestly think your family planning is screwed big time???

Hmmm... Family planning with a WL is even more difficult than family planning with a local gal. It is very interesting though with this topic right now about family planning.

Bro, can u be our financial planner and draft out what is required and what is the best plan that we can have in order to marry a WL.

Like how we can stay together, Maximise our money, The children future etc. There must be some formula which will work out. Nothing is possible. Bro, pls guide us along and come up with a general family plan. Thanks.

[suteerak1099]

Originally Posted by thekiller

I did my Maths. I know I will have to wait for abt 20 years before I can make a move to LOS. Hopefully by then, my tirak and I are still together. If not, I dun mind being a single Dad.

I understand the living standard in SG is very high. But SG has a better education. Like I say, my tirak and I are banging on the kids to feed us next time. Hence, we decided that the SG education is important.

friend, i can agree with you that LOS is indeed a very nice place to be, sadly you havent read enough, discovered/researched enough, know enough about it to want to be there.

you did your math (but with mistakes all across the page)

your formula is only simple additions & subtractions... yah.. for singlehood, can make do with such.

for family planning, you better start learning the mathematical logic/term called (square, cube, to the power of) - simply because.. with the addition of 1 head, your liability dont just increase.. but in fact is multiplied.

if you have the time, go consult your engineering friends on the formulae for probability & algorithms...

[suteerak1099]

Originally Posted by thekiller

Hmmm... Family planning with a WL is even more difficult than family planning with a local gal. It is very interesting though with this topic right now about family planning.

LOL, family planning planning with a local is also not too far off... the same invisible rule applies: " your $ is her's, and her $ is hers"

Originally Posted by thekiller

Bro, can u be our financial planner and draft out what is required and what is the best plan that we can have in order to marry a WL.

Like how we can stay together, Maximise our money, The children future etc. There must be some formula which will work out. Nothing is possible. Bro, pls guide us along and come up with a general family plan. Thanks.

be your family financial planner?? you kidding?? do i need to teach you how to F**k?

you can always refer to many infomative threads (with invaluable info shared by experiencesd bros) available in SBF to do your own assumption accounts - prior to commitments.

its not for me to say/dictate for you, how much you should be affording. more importantly is for yourself to work out what you need & want. and this applies not only in tirakship.. but in life too..

Originally Posted by suteerak1099

LOL, family planning planning with a local is also not too far off... the same invisible rule applies: " your $ is her's, and her $ is hers"

be your family financial planner?? you kidding?? do i need to teach you how to F**k?

you can always refer to many infomative threads (with invaluable info shared by experiencesd bros) available in SBF to do your own assumption accounts - prior to commitments.

its not for me to say/dictate for you, how much you should be affording. more importantly is for yourself to work out what you need & want. and this applies not only in tirakship.. but in life too..

Of cos not. U no need to teach me how to fuck.

I need a Family Planner. Not a financial planner. I think u can help. Just give us some general guidelines.