Couple found dead in Fragrance Hotel Kovan

[Cheonging101]

Originally Posted by tiger2

if that is the one you are talking it is the wrong house that is haunted,

Hahaha... bro, this statement damn funny... I think if you go and ask any owner of a haunted house, they'll all tell you that their house is the wrong one to be haunted.

[sleaguepunter]

Originally Posted by VanGogh

bro, i grew up in that area... i know where the coffin shop is... not forgetting just 5 minutes drive down and it is the former muslim cementry... (can't remember the actual name of it). ..

the crossroad junction had been reconstructed now there is a flyover. .. .. but all bros who drive past there do be careful... although accident rate had came down in recent years, i can clearly remember that it was a pretty "dirty" junction many years ago

i think both u and bro t123 got your memory wrong. The fragrance and H81 are located at the junction of LCK and Upper Serangoon. That is the 5 mile point of the Upper Serangoon Road. In fact there was a LSB located right at the junction with a jewellery shop, a tailor(all three closed down) beside it follow by the USSC which is next to fragrance and H81.

The coffin shop u toking about was located at the 3 mile point of Upper Serangoon Road near to the junction of Braddell and Bartley road which was where the malay cememtery was located. There was a Teochew cememtery located at a hill at the junction of Serangoon central and Upper serangoon road. The hill was level and HDB flats built over it. Long time residents of area will know. There was even a cememtery at the present site of the convent primary school beside the catholic church at the seven mile point, right after the Holy Innocent Secondary School.

As for what bro t123 talk about, i think he mix up with the temple festival that celebrate the birthday of the 9th heavenly prince or king. A deity that teochews pray in the past, the temple is just opposite the crocodile farm. The temple is still there, i think the celebration is on the 9th day of the 9th month of the lunar calender. When i was a kid, it was a very big event, tentages will be set up, crowds of devotees with incense burning and chinese opera on the stage.

[nirvana]

Can anyone use google map to locate this Bidadari??

Hope to know the location, next week any bro wish to visit it together after midnight?

^_^

[BKnight]

Originally Posted by Supermanx1

are you refering to the salvation army?

Not so loud..hehehe

[Java_script]

Better to avoid this place during the coming seventh month.

[t123]

Originally Posted by sleaguepunter

As for what bro t123 talk about, i think he mix up with the temple festival that celebrate the birthday of the 9th heavenly prince or king. A deity that teochews pray in the past, the temple is just opposite the crocodile farm. The temple is still there, i think the celebration is on the 9th day of the 9th month of the lunar calender. When i was a kid, it was a very big event, tentages will be set up, crowds of devotees with incense burning and chinese opera on the stage.

Not really leh, becos saw tent with apparently the ancestor tablets more like those we see at bright hill. And a monk was walking ard and chanting prayers.

[gromitsing]

Originally Posted by BKnight

Not so loud..hehehe

And there is a sold-out condo nearby......

[makpoke]

Originally Posted by nirvana

Can anyone use google map to locate this Bidadari??

Hope to know the location, next week any bro wish to visit it together after midnight?

^_^

Easy, at junction of Bartley - Braddel Roads and Upper Serangoon Road. NEL station Woodleigh which isn't open. It's been cleared so there's nothing much left. Have fun

[38tiger]

Originally Posted by sleaguepunter

The fragrance and H81 are located at the junction of LCK and Upper Serangoon.

There was even a cememtery at the present site of the convent primary school beside the catholic church at the seven mile point, right after the Holy Innocent Secondary School.

bro sleaguepunter, you are spot on expect LCK should YCK (Yio Chu Kang)

can't any cemetery leh! are you refering to the Sanctuary for Brotherhood?

old bird of serangoon...

[38tiger]

Originally Posted by nirvana

Can anyone use google map to locate this Bidadari??

Hope to know the location, next week any bro wish to visit it together after midnight?

^_^

bro next week 7th. month leh!, are you ok?

anyway all have been cleared only empty ground not sure if they still hold theirs gathering there or not...kee kee kee!!!
please leave me out...

[nirvana]

Originally Posted by 38tiger

bro next week 7th. month leh!, are you ok?

anyway all have been cleared only empty ground not sure if they still hold theirs gathering there or not...kee kee kee!!!
please leave me out...

that what make it even more interesting, any bro here wanna join me?
Wed mid-night will be great.

[nirvana]

Originally Posted by makpoke

Easy, at junction of Bartley - Braddel Roads and Upper Serangoon Road. NEL station Woodleigh which isn't open. It's been cleared so there's nothing much left. Have fun

if from Windsor hotel, drive all the way up Upper Aljunied Road, will pass by Mount Vernon.

then when reach T junction, go up is YoungBerg Ter. Turn Left is toward Salvation Army. Serangoon 7km.


But i should turn Right toward Bartley, is it before Woodleigh Underpass?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bidadari_Cemetery

http://infopedia.nl.sg/articles/SIP_840_2004-12-20.html

http://habitatnews.nus.edu.sg/pub/na...text/a101a.htm

Pic, http://www.pbase.com/taicw/singapores_bidadari_cemetery
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimmyliew/sets/270634/

UNCLAIMED CREMATED REMAINS FROM BIDADARI CEMETERY
http://genforum.genealogy.com/singap...sages/663.html

" Anyway, here is an article from 2002

Yong is responsible for the hands-on work in a government project to clear the Bidadari Cemetery, one of the largest Christian burial grounds in Southeast Asia. The project will convert the resting place for 58,000 dead into 12,000 centrally located, high-rise apartments for the living.

The project is fueled by crowded Singapore's hunger for land. The tiny island, nestled between Malaysia and Indonesia, covers 251 square miles and has 4 million residents.

In Singapore, government housing, highways and rapid-transit lines have been creeping ever closer to the Bidadari Cemetery and will take over within 10 years when the apartments and a new subway station are completed.

For now, the oasis of frangipani trees and rolling hills remains peaceful. Rows of gravestones and marble statues are spread over 64 acres, their epitaphs engraved in a dozen languages, including Chinese, English, Portuguese, Japanese and Hindi. The word Bidadari itself comes from "widyadari," a type of Hindu nymph.

Over the last two decades, the government has exhumed bodies from more than 36 cemeteries of different races and religions. Bidadari, one of the largest to be cleared, contains the remains of 58,000 Christians buried between 1907 and 1972, with most interred before 1951.

An additional 68,000 bodies will be exhumed from a neighboring Muslim section and reburied elsewhere.

All unclaimed Christian remains will be cremated by the government and, unless the ashes are claimed within a year, they will be scattered at sea. Christian families who want to rebury remains must pay for it, but the government is reburying remains from faiths that ban cremation, including Muslims, Jews and Parsis.

Since March 2001, Singapore has published numerous notices about the exhumation in newspapers here and in Australia, Britain and Malaysia, but only 9,449 bodies have been claimed.

Once those remains are exhumed, Yong's team will start digging up and cremating the unclaimed, said Sum Foong Yee, a spokesman for the Housing and Development Board, which is overseeing the project.

In many cultures, cemeteries are considered landmarks and even tourist attractions, but not in traditional Chinese communities, noted Scottie Oakley, an American who is a guide at Singapore's Asian Civilizations Museum and is helping produce a picture book to preserve Bidadari's history before the bulldozers roll in.

Oakley said many Chinese, who make up 75 percent of Singapore's population, will not visit friends after paying respects at family plots because they believe it's bad luck.

"I could spend an afternoon in a cemetery, but in this culture that would not happen," she said. Oakley and two other women, Sue Williams and Liesel Strauss, began work on the coffee-table book about the cemetery last year, taking pictures and recording epitaphs.

About 10 percent of those buried here are expatriates, businessmen from the colonial era, missionaries or casualties of war.

Families can take sculptures and gravestones home, but most have not. Unclaimed headstones are smashed and put into a pit.

Chinese people tend to be uncomfortable having tombstones in their homes, said Brigid Tracy Tan, whose great-grandfather was exhumed from Bidadari. Her family left the tombstone and marble cross behind.

Tan, a curator for the Singapore Art Museum, spent hours scrutinizing Bidadari's sculptures, looking for "aesthetically significant" examples. But she found most - even beautiful ones - were mass produced. One of the two pieces she rescued is an intricately carved marble headstone for 12 Roman Catholic nuns of the Canossian Sisterhood who died between 1907 and 1956. "I do wish that more of these monuments could be saved or a section of the cemetery could be saved," Oakley said. "In a lot of countries that could happen, but not here."

Some interesting FR and pic

http://www.xtrackersonline.com/2008/...k-of-past.html

[38tiger]

wah bro nirvana you are well informed and details,

just see who are brave bros or sisters dare to tag along with you,

care to update after your venture. ( with pic plse. )

[asdjajk5]

which room is it go buy 4d

[sleaguepunter]

Originally Posted by 38tiger

bro sleaguepunter, you are spot on expect LCK should YCK (Yio Chu Kang)

can't any cemetery leh! are you refering to the Sanctuary for Brotherhood?

old bird of serangoon...

u r rite, it Yio Chu Kang, typos lah.

i not sure if it call sanctuary for brotherhood. It beside the big catholic church at the junction of Upper Serangoon Road and Punggol Road, before the old "kang ka" bus terminal. It was still around in the 1980s before it was clear to built the red brick HDB flats. That time i only primary school, at least 25 years ago.

I stayed in punggol before kenna relocated by govt to hougang new town. Had stay other places in between the years but still return to hougang eventually. Had seen the development of the Upper Serangoon Road for the past 30 years. Still remember the low red brick wall outside the 9th Prince Temple, sit on top of it while wait for bus 82 / 83 back to punggol. And also the night market at the Sixth Mile Point atop the big LongKang. Authentic teochew food and the fav muai chee.