To stay in or out of a relationship with a KTV gal

[slider_72]

Originally Posted by DTCEPL

With the advance of English language and exposure among our fellow PRCs, it won't be long before all the WL, FL, KTV and HC gals will be logging into SBF and become a member, posting how the SGP man KCed them etc.

There are already a few I know who log on to SBF to read about things being posted about them. Be warned.

[enfant_terrible]

bro,

i would just say - enjoy it while it lasts n with your eyes wide open

i've been in similar situations but have always escaped unscathed; btw, the impromtu method works quite well.

anyway, i'm also a reg cheongster at BS when i'm free

[DTCEPL]

Originally Posted by slider_72

There are already a few I know who log on to SBF to read about things being posted about them. Be warned.

Thats the effect of Globalisation................... in SBF context

[colins]

Originally Posted by DTCEPL

I think all the Bros here very concern but getting alittle paranoid.....even if she really truely loved him also kena said until she KC him big time.....whahahaha.

Just like parents treating their little kids.....fatherly and motherly love......

Well, its up to Bro Fatjumbo to decide and analyze the lady in depth. Maybe Bro Fatjumbo is the one trying to KCed the gal instead....hehehe.....since he said that she is only up to the mark as GF or Playmate but not wifey, but the gal is hoping to make him Hubby.

With the advance of English language and exposure among our fellow PRCs, it won't be long before all the WL, FL, KTV and HC gals will be logging into SBF and become a member, posting how the SGP man KCed them etc.

Thats why I said the same event and object can look so different with different angles. A victim can only see thru his heart, that's why no matter how intelligent a person is, it is damn tough to reach a 'safe' conclusion. A 'safe' conclusion is not just the conclusion used by a KC player, it should be used by everybody.

Oh dun be surprised that there are many of them reading this already, hahaha... I've seen postings that have clearly stated this and there are already victims of counter KC. To be safe, you have to assume that this is happening. Some bros have already came out with the solution years ago since 2002 - dun talk about it in the forum. But did it work? The macro trend to this is, the players (whether its the guys or the girls), can always evolve becos they hold the predator attitude. Others in the scene, esp the newer cheongsters, will face stronger and stronger players. Thus the forum preserves its natural role, to bring transparency onto things that are happening around us. You take your own objective views from here, but you also need to think about it and apply it to your situation. Just dun forget to be safe, not sorry.

[ShittyAss]

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor

Please use the "quote" button instead of the stupid ">" character which is a legacy of the text based email client era.

I have edited your post on your behalf so you can see how much better it looks.

hahaa...thanks boss! In office now...hence email client era...wahaha..

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by DTCEPL

With the advance of English language and exposure among our fellow PRCs, it won't be long before all the WL, FL, KTV and HC gals will be logging into SBF and become a member, posting how the SGP man KCed them etc.

Good, then they need to come up with new tricks liao.

[Fatjumbo]

Originally Posted by EtherC

If you don't see my intervention post, it usually bodes well. Good luck.

Thanks bro EtherC

[Fatjumbo]

Bro Colins,

Well, it's like 2 edge sword tat cut both sides. Dating can be very sweet, but when it comes to heart to heart talk. Emotions run lah.

Yesterday was some kind of show down from her declaring her love after I brought her clubbing, she questioned me did I feel tat she never loogi anything but gain most from this relationship ? She claimed that she willingly lost so much time and potential income in pao tai just to be with me and so call put in the effort into this KC. Maybe she has got no confident in herself as she kept reminding herself that as a WL in this line that she is not worthy of my love. Kept pressing me to promise not to dump her like others KTV gals whom I distanced away ever since I am with her ie ( if I can do tat to those gals, I can do that to her too in no time should a new gal comes along ). She was close to tears in my car, until my comfort hug came along to ease the tension on her.

She was very unhappy tat I tip other gals after a bonking session more. She said I was unfair to her. Why tip other gals so much while tip her miserably. I said HELLO, the past tips are for those gals I bonk before I agree to be her BF. Why all gals love to compare....knn.

Now is a totally different scenario. And cannot expect me to shower the same kind of affection ( tips lah ) to her. She got to earn it man !! Not auto simply becos she is my gal, I got to take care of her more by giving more monies be it for allowances or buying groceries, makeup etc etc

Nevertheless, she just wanted to air out her feelings trap in her. But happy with the present arrrangements.

Cheers

[slider_72]

Originally Posted by Fatjumbo

Only scary part is that this gal claimed she loves me alot and doesn't want anything from me especially money, we'll only been together for a mth plus.

Every session I bao her for KTV she never collects from me even though I secretly placed money into her hand bag, she will return to me the money, asking me not to do that again if I treat her as galfriend.

Her condition: She just wants me to help her settle her accomodation bill 300/mth ( I can jolly well afford ) that's all as a BF kind of relationship with FOC bonking as well, anytime, anywhere I bring her. ( Out of guilty conscious, I still insist that I pay for her time wasted on me instead of working. )

Originally Posted by Fatjumbo

Bro Colins,

Yesterday was some kind of show down from her declaring her love after I brought her clubbing, she questioned me did I feel tat she never loogi anything but gain most from this relationship ? She claimed that she willingly lost so much time and potential income in pao tai just to be with me and so call put in the effort into this KC.

She was very unhappy tat I tip other gals after a bonking session more. She said I was unfair to her. Why tip other gals so much while tip her miserably. I said HELLO, the past tips are for those gals I bonk before I agree to be her BF. Why all gals love to compare....knn.

Now is a totally different scenario. And cannot expect me to shower the same kind of affection ( tips lah ) to her. She got to earn it man !!

I don't get it.

Pao her at KTV, give her tips she don't accept. In your first post you mentioned that she is giving you FOC bonking. In your last post you say that she was unhappy that you tip other girls more than her after bonking them.

If you have to tip her after bonking her, how does that qualify as FOC bonking? I thought FOC means "free of charge"? Maybe your definition of FOC is "fuck on credit"?

[cablesnwires]

Originally Posted by slider_72

I don't get it.

Pao her at KTV, give her tips she don't accept. In your first post you mentioned that she is giving you FOC bonking. In your last post you say that she was unhappy that you tip other girls more than her after bonking them.

If you have to tip her after bonking her, how does that qualify as FOC bonking? I thought FOC means "free of charge"? Maybe your definition of FOC is "fuck on credit"?

Maybe she is just jealous? That was probably the WL way of talking, and hopefully after this pent up feeling released, she will revert back to the R/S?

[xyz1001]

Originally Posted by Fatjumbo

She was very unhappy tat I tip other gals after a bonking session more. She said I was unfair to her. Why tip other gals so much while tip her miserably. I said HELLO, the past tips are for those gals I bonk before I agree to be her BF. Why all gals love to compare....knn.

Not all gals like to compare but most pple tends to do comparison.
But bro, look at the things she is comparing? Money. Shouldn't it be your time and your tender-loving-care?

[DTCEPL]

Originally Posted by xyz1001

But bro, look at the things she is comparing? Money. Shouldn't it be your time and your tender-loving-care?

Bros....Money is the best Brenchmark in the eyes of KTV/HC Gals.....love and time spend is worthless

More money or expensive gifts given to her means you love her more, more time and love to her means you most idoit useless bum who don't spend time making more money for them.....these are the urgly truth

[colins]

Bro Colins,

Well, it's like 2 edge sword tat cut both sides. Dating can be very sweet, but when it comes to heart to heart talk. Emotions run lah.

Yesterday was some kind of show down from her declaring her love after I brought her clubbing, she questioned me did I feel tat she never loogi anything but gain most from this relationship ?

There is a reason for everything. You've got to ask yourself why she choose this topic. It is quite simple. It is to set the discussion by stating her position and she has determined YOUR position in discussion as well. So if you continue without arguing this position of yours, you have relinguished control.

She claimed that she willingly lost so much time and potential income in pao tai just to be with me and so call put in the effort into this KC. Maybe she has got no confident in herself as she kept reminding herself that as a WL in this line that she is not worthy of my love.

This is drawing you towards a direction that she wants you to go. This is the 'pull'. Remember, she is manipulating you, so she has to 'convince' you that a certain outcome is good for you and her at the end of that discussion.

Kept pressing me to promise not to dump her like others KTV gals whom I distanced away ever since I am with her ie ( if I can do tat to those gals, I can do that to her too in no time should a new gal comes along ). She was close to tears in my car, until my comfort hug came along to ease the tension on her.

Again, manipulation. She has used the 'tear card' on you, you say that happens in a car, that means going home, so she knew that she had to do her summary liao. The tears force you to make a final move, comfort her or reject her. I am quite sure all along in the discussion, you were quite defensive on her series of 'accusations', in that you lost a lot of ground. This final move will seal your position in the game. You did not write down what you say or promised to her when you comfort and hug her, but then thats typical cos you tend to leave this things out in your posts. Just compare your state before this date and after this date, you can see the difference in your position. You will see that you are actually quite disadvantaged now, and the earlier bf-gf relationship has been changed.

She was very unhappy tat I tip other gals after a bonking session more. She said I was unfair to her. Why tip other gals so much while tip her miserably. I said HELLO, the past tips are for those gals I bonk before I agree to be her BF. Why all gals love to compare....knn.

Immaterial. It is only one of her tactics for you to give ground. Remember that when she say something which you think is unreasonable, and at that point of time you never rebutt it, that means you allowed it. To hold your position, you must close any of such unreasonable topics there and then, preferably give her a verbal slap so she knows she can't do this again. So now you see, you focus on 'why all gals love to compare' instead of how you reacted to her at that time. Shows you were confused and that makes you lose more ground.


Now is a totally different scenario. And cannot expect me to shower the same kind of affection ( tips lah ) to her. She got to earn it man !! Not auto simply becos she is my gal, I got to take care of her more by giving more monies be it for allowances or buying groceries, makeup etc etc

Now you can tell what she made you promise, of cos the scenario is drastically different. She is starting to showhand. And what are you thinking now? SHE got to earn it man....No AUTO...No money allowance...what is this? Pride?
Come on, you already lose so much ground yesterday, she already made you promise more and you totally fell for it without any defense. No need to say this kind of comment to make you feel better, bro.

Nevertheless, she just wanted to air out her feelings trap in her. But happy with the present arrrangements.

An escape statement to make yourself feel better. Just as if you're there as a man for her so she can rely on you to air out the wei qu feelings. Bro, none of the airing out part ever happened, everything she said got purpose one. See it with your own eyes, you even contradict yourself many times just in this post.

Cheers [/QUOTE]

[EtherC]

Wah Bro Colin's can write thesis on analytical psychology liao.

[xyz1001]

Originally Posted by DTCEPL

Bros....Money is the best Brenchmark in the eyes of KTV/HC Gals.....love and time spend is worthless

More money or expensive gifts given to her means you love her more, more time and love to her means you most idoit useless bum who don't spend time making more money for them.....these are the urgly truth

Exactly. I'm still trying to point out to TS that despite all the good things he wrote abt her, i can't see that she is in love with him.

So if TS wanna stay in this rs, for your own sake, pls be a bastard.