Liverpool Fc @ Anfield - Reds Supporters Gatherings

[Alkano]

Although we have a good bunch of young players, they will need proper guidence and grooming.
Not sure if it is a good way to groom your young players by loaning them out.
Look at Anthony Le Tallac and Pogolle...
We need to devise a good system to be like Man U or Arsenal.
Look at their youth system, and those who made an impact.
Or how can we challenge them for the title...
Do hope we can secure Barry, he is quite experienced and it is this type of player who can lead by example like Stevie.

[Jopet]

Originally Posted by Xgenre

If you guys remember, after Rafa won the champions league in his first season (coming back from 3-0 down in the first half somemore), there is a saying among Liverpool's fans. It's called 'In Rafa we trust'. Rafa wants Barry so much. I'm sure he would have a system in mind already where Barry's inclusion adds value and an extra dimension to the team. It's just that we, as fans, can't find out how this system will go exactly yet. I will trust Rafa's judgement on Barry. To be honest, Alonso has had a forgettable season last year by his own high standards. Knowing how his place is in danger, I think we will see Alonso back to his best.

The other issue to me will be the youngsters. I think it will be a waste if they are only to play in the reserve league or the earlier stages of the League cup only. How many high quality competitive games will they get per year? We should loan as many out to Premiership or Championship sides as possible. We have a very good crop of youngsters, better than any team's youngsters, including Arsenal's and Man U's.

I agree with Bro Xgenre. I believe Alonso would be back to his best this season. He looked sharp during Euro and has been pretty good so far during the pre-season. Perhaps Barry's move to Liverpool may just be the ideal tonic (or kick up the arse) to wake Alonso up and make him play better?

I've watched some of the highlights of the pre-season games and I think the youngsters all look pretty good with Nemeth and Pacheo (spelling?) looking particularly impressive.

I suppose we could loan them out but I much rather they stay and try to compete for their places. Its going to be a long season and we need a squad that has enough depth to compete in all competitions. I reckon the league cup and early stages of the FA cup will be the main stages for these players to prove their worth and hopefully blossom into first team players soon.

Either way, this season looks to be full of promise. Can't wait for action to start in 2 weeks! I'm even backing Liverpool to finally end their title drought this season. $8.00 to win title at https://asiansports.lasseterssports.com.au. haha...not too bad.

[_AXL_]

Originally Posted by rahl

Bro, we are likely to see players changing positions in the course of a match, and substitutes coming into a new formation late in the match. This is very clear from the players that Rafa has targeted this season, particularly Barry and Keane, who can play different positions.

yes, both barry and keane r very flexible and willing... i dont see keane complaining even when he had to play on the wings for spurs.

but i m not too sure about the defensive skills of dossena... his crossing is fantastic but defending a bit suspect.

So if people can look at what Rafa does and what he says, they will realise he is NOT going to get a winger, who can play only one position and live and die on the sidelines (literally).

so should sell pennant or not???

Originally Posted by wolfclan

maybe Damien Plessis can do the job when mascherano not ard? but he is young and might not have enough experience.....

slowly ease him into the position rather than rushing him in. but under the tutelage of mascherano, he should improve by leaps and bounds. if barry joins, even better for plessis cos both r left footed, if i m not wrong...

another way of looking at it, he is intelligent enough to know kuyt have pull a defender attention away and thus allowing him to shoot?? and of course, he scored, if not everyone will be asking wat he is doing not???

oh please, the kid didnt even look up cos he was looking at the ball, intent on trying to score...

yes netmeth wears no 55 and is 19 this year, still young, and he was tip to be one of the few to break into the first team though,

i m more impressed with him actually...

benayoun, was as hardworking as in the last season, always 'disturbing' the opposition defenders

yes, but i keep having the niggling feeling that he is a confidence player. somehow, i feel that he looks out of place in a liverpool shirt, but cant put my finger on it...

Originally Posted by Xgenre

'In Rafa we trust'

errr... i still do...

[wolfclan]

Originally Posted by rahl

Bro, I am quite sure Barry will leave now and it will be to us. MON knows there's no more hope of detaining him. Plessis is a bright young talent but in the role he plays, it's too much of a risk to depend on him alone.

Yes it's alot of money for Barry but I think many fans are upset cos it means Alonso has to leave (not sure about this from Rafa's latest comments). It means we are being treated as a top club by smaller clubs, so I suppose we should accept this in future and get along with it.

Yes agreed, Plessis would need more experience, and both Barry and Mascherano would be good tuitor for him,

[wolfclan]

Originally Posted by _AXL_

so should sell pennant or not???

Blackburn looking at him rite???

Originally Posted by _AXL_

slowly ease him into the position rather than rushing him in. but under the tutelage of mascherano, he should improve by leaps and bounds. if barry joins, even better for plessis cos both r left footed, if i m not wrong...

Plessis have certainly make the fans feels he is good enough, and willing, and would hope he can develop into a frist-team regular,

Also not forgetting the no19 in the Ranger game, not Babel, but Spearing, he is from the youth setup, and its a long time since SG and JC we have any kids stepping up from the youth team. Together with Darby, they are performing well enough in those friendly games.

Originally Posted by _AXL_

oh please, the kid didnt even look up cos he was looking at the ball, intent on trying to score... i m more impressed with netmeth actually...

eeeeeee....sorry lar, not as observant as you lor, haha....
Yes Netmeth have been gaining rave reviews in the youth setup / reserve team, and was playing in the youth euro or wat cup game in jun. another player to watch out for in the near future.

Originally Posted by _AXL_

yes, but i keep having the niggling feeling that he is a confidence player. somehow, i feel that he looks out of place in a liverpool shirt, but cant put my finger on it...

Maybe is the role he is playing for Liverpool? if not wrong, he use to be the goto player in westham, but in Liverpool, he is just another player, hardworking and play with level of intelligence.

[_AXL_]

Originally Posted by wolfclan

Blackburn looking at him rite???

ya... but i have always liked pennant leh...

Plessis have certainly make the fans feels he is good enough, and willing, and would hope he can develop into a frist-team regular,

soon, a couple of seasons more for him to settle down. just like what wenger did with vieira...

Also not forgetting the no19 in the Ranger game, not Babel, but Spearing, he is from the youth setup, and its a long time since SG and JC we have any kids stepping up from the youth team. Together with Darby, they are performing well enough in those friendly games.

spearing looks like a rooney... let's just hope he doesnt like to bonk grannies like rooney...

eeeeeee....sorry lar, not as observant as you lor, haha....
Yes Netmeth have been gaining rave reviews in the youth setup / reserve team, and was playing in the youth euro or wat cup game in jun. another player to watch out for in the near future.

nah... i remembered cos my bros were all screaming "NBCB, pass to kuyt" at ngog during the game.

nemeth's first time shot impressed me and his running off the ball showed that he has much to offer...

Maybe is the role he is playing for Liverpool? if not wrong, he use to be the goto player in westham, but in Liverpool, he is just another player, hardworking and play with level of intelligence

maybe it is his slight frame... but when it comes to hardworking, still kuyt for me.

YNWA...

[alphalaw]

Originally Posted by wolfclan

Blackburn looking at him rite???

dun sell him lar

[wolfclan]

Originally Posted by _AXL_

spearing looks like a rooney... let's just hope he doesnt like to bonk grannies like rooney...

Good one bro hahaha.

Originally Posted by _AXL_

maybe it is his slight frame... but when it comes to hardworking, still kuyt for me.

YNWA...

yes, maybe its due to his slight frame, and of course kuyt will always run and run and run, chasing even lost cause at times. good delicated player.

[NZL97]

I was reading the forum from the official LFC website & they were all saying the youngters like nemeth, pacheco, insua, plessis.......etc are not ready for 1st team football...........

I beg to differ...........with 7 reserves allow this season, i think we should place place at least 5 young players on the beach so that they can get the maximum exposure for all competitions.........not juz the carling cup..........

where would fabregas be w/o wenger showing faith by making him a regular & he even play a 16 year old wilshere against real madrid last nite & declaring he is part of the first team squad this coming season........this is how you boost a young players confidence & like the saying goes.....when you are good enough.........you are old enough.........players like owen, rooney, messi, pato are good recent examples & do you guys remember a young man utd side that won the EPL in the 1990s with beckham, scholes, neville......etc

sincerely hope gems like nemeth, ngog, plessis & pacheco show their true potential & "established" youngter like babel to really step up a gear this season...........

come on you reds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rahl]

Originally Posted by NZL97

I beg to differ...........with 7 reserves allow this season, i think we should place place at least 5 young players on the beach so that they can get the maximum exposure for all competitions.........not juz the carling cup..........

Bro, Rafa is hardly known for not blooding youngsters when they are ready - look at Plessis and Insua last season and he has also persisted with Babel on the left and Lucas in the middle.

Ultimately it must be about ability. Is Insua better than Aurelio or Dossena? Nemeth compared to Torres or Keane?

Lots of people admire Arsenal (I don't) but the question I ask is, what have they won recently?

Also, why they never played Walcott much? That guy cost more than any of our young players.

We have the scum breathing down our title haul and we want to create a winning team. With youngsters, you are likely to need a bedding in period. They might turn great in the end, or bad, but by then, the season would have been over. And the manager who used them would have been sacked.

So I don't think there needs to be a pro-youngster policy. The first and foremost is the team.

[rahl]

Originally Posted by _AXL_

yes, both barry and keane r very flexible and willing... i dont see keane complaining even when he had to play on the wings for spurs.

but i m not too sure about the defensive skills of dossena... his crossing is fantastic but defending a bit suspect.

so should sell pennant or not???

I haven't seen Dossena play yet. Can lah, the advantage of attacking is greater than defending in this case. Someone else like Lucas or JM can cover the side when Dossena attacks. I hope he really has a fantastic cross as you said!!

I think Pennant is better than most fans think - his great weakness is he can't score for nuts. The only thing I'm unhappy with is if he leaves Pool for 4m. A good English player for 4m!!! That's just bonkers lor.

[Jopet]

Originally Posted by rahl

I haven't seen Dossena play yet. Can lah, the advantage of attacking is greater than defending in this case. Someone else like Lucas or JM can cover the side when Dossena attacks. I hope he really has a fantastic cross as you said!!

I think Pennant is better than most fans think - his great weakness is he can't score for nuts. The only thing I'm unhappy with is if he leaves Pool for 4m. A good English player for 4m!!! That's just bonkers lor.

I dont doubt Pennant's ability as a player. When he was in Birmingham, he was a solid performer. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said when he came over to Liverpool. The guy's got a fantastic cross but as I've said many times, a lot of them fail to get pass the first defender. Perhaps it is a case of not playing sufficient 1st team games to get into the groove. If he ever leaves, I'll probably only remember him as the guy who scored a great goal against Chelsea. Sad..

If we can afford to keep him, then perhaps he deserves a second chance particularly since selling him at 4 million is (as Bro Rahl pointed out) BONKERS. If i'm not mistaken, we paid about 6.3 million for him and with the obscene valuations of players nowadays, that is simply not right.

[Frankiestine]

Pennant is one of the few players who can hold and dribble the ball....good when comes to unsettling a tight defense...but i also feel he have not been performing to his fullest potential...hope he don't end up like another Kewell...

[yellowmilk]

well, i hope that barry is the last piece of the jig saw puzzle and we can end the long wait for the EPL title!

and hopefully we need not be arguing with each other on whether benitez should be fired or not

[Alkano]

We pretty much got ourself covered in defence, midfield and attack.
Hopefully this will be the season that we create a lot of havoc and terrorized the league....hahaha