Tieng Viet lovers club

[AdGuy]

Originally Posted by jackbl

If u wan to score higher marks u must go to the ground and practise. Jio u a few sessions to go to those basic level training ground (**pubs) u not interested, u choose to go to those intermediate ground (** GL ktv) and at the end the objectives not fulfilled
Last few days i went to even more basic level training ground at 15 and 18, found that the quality improved. Hope this can spurs u to learn more....

While you are now enjoying at spring rolls pub, and i know you are... you probably already understand why I cannot appear at the pubs

[jackbl]

Originally Posted by AdGuy

While you are now enjoying at spring rolls pub, and i know you are... you probably already understand why I cannot appear at the pubs

Yes i m but SORRY i dun understand why u cannot appear at the pubs? Whats there to avoid? Just go there to watch soccer also fine what .... Yesterday see how MAN U defeated by under-manned EVERTON and today watch a boring game between MAN CITY vs LIVERPOOL....

[tomcat007]

Originally Posted by jackbl

Yes i m but SORRY i dun understand why u cannot appear at the pubs? Whats there to avoid? Just go there to watch soccer also fine what .... Yesterday see how MAN U defeated by under-manned EVERTON and today watch a boring game between MAN CITY vs LIVERPOOL....

Off track but watch soccer at coffee shop much more cheaper, especially with the projected screen at Lor 29... Of course, no VB there to talk to lah, but you can always import your own VB. LOL...

[jackbl]

More young people choose to live alone
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VietNamNet Bridge - How long do you live with your parents? Until you get married or until you believe you’ve grown mature enough?

There’s a growing trend among single Vietnamese to lead independent lives in big cities such as Ha Noi and HCM City. They choose to rent their own home regardless of objections.

Returning home after 10 years studying in Germany, 35-year-old Nguyen Duc Thang, marketing manager of BIHACO Software Company in Ha Noi, immediately found a unit for himself.

"My friends and my landlady were surprised why I didn’t stay with my parents in their spacious house," Thang said.

"My main argument was that I had become used to a freer lifestyle. I can now go out early and return late without bothering my parents."

Thang’s decision was opposed by his mother, a retired teacher who believes children should be with parents, regardless of how mature they consider themselves.

"Luckily, I got support from my dad. He said I could live independently after 10 years away from home," Thang said.

Thang’s outlook may be considered Westernised, but a similar situation confronted Le Thuy Huong, although she has never lived abroad.

Dreaming of being a sovereign individual, the busy 27-year-old communications officer was determined to move to a separate home.

"I don’t really mind that my parents’ apartment is too small for a family of six," Huong says. "But the clash of viewpoints from different generations made my mind up."

Huong’s mum cried a lot when she learnt of her daughter’s idea, which she deemed as "crazy". "You can’t go until you marry. Do you want to let other people complain your parents can’t afford to bring you up? Will any man accept a girl who lives separately?" Huong recalls.

After a month of arguing, Huong’s family finally arrived at a compromise. She would rent a unit close to her parents’ home and return there to have meals and do things under their supervision.

In a country like Viet Nam, where traditional family values are highly respected, stories of young people leading independent lives cause much debate among adults - and even youth themselves.

"Whatever reasons you put forward, it is still a new lifestyle to Viet Nam," Huong said. "Some even say if you live on your own, you must be a spoiled child."

However, Huong said what tormented her most was the clash between her demand and points of view on Vietnamese family values.

"My brother told me that our culture did not allow children to live independently before marriage," she said.

But he replied: "If you do that, you’re not dutiful towards our parents."

Nguyen Thi Nhung, an old mother living in Ha Noi, also holds a rather strict opinion.

"A modern life consists of a great deal of temptations and pitfalls. Young people are active and full of aspiration but lack life skills, crucial for them to enter the real world," Nhung said.

Experienced solo liver Thang said every coin had two sides. "Living alone brings you freedom and a sense of initiative, but it’s not stable since you have to live in a rented home," he said.

However, he argued that he could benefit by developing good characteristics, such as being independent, decisive and responsible.

According to deputy director of the Social Development Support Centre Vu The Long, traditional opinions hold that an extended family means happiness and prosperity.

He also said that, in the past, when life was difficult, children should be close to their parents for mutual benefits.

"Life is better now, services are mushrooming while children spend more time at their work earning money. Parents need to think again if their unmarried kids want to live separately," Long said.

Nguyen An Chat, director of An Viet Son Psychology Consulting Company, agreed with the new choice made by many young people.

"It’s even better for some to live independently as they can do more for themselves or contribute more for society," Chat said.

VNN/VNS

[jackbl]

Vietnamese splash the cash
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VietNamNet Bridge - Developers of high-end real estate projects in Vietnam used to focus mainly on overseas Vietnamese and foreign customers as potential buyers.

No price is too big for local property buyers

But recently, to the surprise of many in the industry, it is Vietnamese who are buying the lion’s share of these luxury properties. Last year saw locals buy into the Hyatt Regency Residence and Ocean Villas in Danang or Sanctuary Ho Tram Resort in Ba Ria Vung Tau province where an apartment is priced at at least $180,000 and a villa up to $1.7 million.

This proves that many in Vietnam - a country where the average annual income is officially $1,100 - hide their cash in other investment sources such as gold, securities and foreign currency.
The luxury housing market is revealing where the true wealth of Vietnam lies.

Enter the market

Nguyen Thi Hang confidently entered the Thang Long ballroom of the famous Sofitel Metropole Hotel in Hanoi in January. She had been invited there by Savills Vietnam, the real estate consultancy promoting the Sunshine Hill project in Phan Thiet city, Binh Thuan province, a popular tourist destination. “I am considering buying a villa there, which costs about $250,000 or more,” Hang said.

Many Vietnamese were in the ballroom that night. Another potential investor, Nguyen Phi Nga, told VIR she had accompanied her cousin to the promotion and thought Sunshine Hill presented a good investment opportunity. “The thing that interests me most about this project is that the villa, if I buy one, could be operated as a condo-hotel and I could get profit from renting it out,” Nga said.

Nga said cash was not problem for her because she had made money in five other short-term real estate investments. This time she is looking for a longer-term investment. “An investment opportunity exists and I will decide whether to buy one soon,” she said.

Surprise of developers

In the past, only a small number of Vietnamese could afford to buy into high-end developments. Property developers, therefore, focused mainly on foreign customers. These days, the majority of their customers are Vietnamese. Wooseok Ki, general director of the Inveskia, the developer of Blooming Park in Ho Chi Minh City, said that when he launched the project in mid-2008, only 50 per cent of his customers were Vietnamese. Late last year this figure rose to 75 per cent.

“Initially our customers came mainly from Korea, Singapore, Hong Kong, Taiwan and many other western countries,” Ki said. The developer of the Sunshine Hill, Pham Que Lam from the Saigon-Thai Son Real Estate Joint Stock Company, told VIR he was surprised the project had attracted so many Vietnamese customers.

“It is not only Vietnamese from Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City who are interested in high-end real estate. I have customers from other parts of the country as well,” Lam said. Forty villas at Sunshine Hill sold in the first three months and this was before the project was promoted in Hanoi.

“All 40 villas were bought by Vietnamese,” Lam said. When he began the project, Lam said he thought that only “big fish” would be able to afford to buy in. But both investors and those planning to live in the villas had expressed interest, he said. Local companies are also getting into the luxury property market, leasing large areas in high-end office buildings.

The PetroVietnam Construction Company, an affiliate of the PetroVietnam, rents 10 floors - around 4,500 square metres - of the 27-storey CEO building in Pham Hung street. Meanwhile, InterContinental Asiana Saigon – one of the most luxurious serviced apartment projects in Ho Chi Minh City – is also attracting a lot of attention from Vietnamese.

According to a project source, the number of local Vietnamese residents moving to lease apartments there has been increasing each day. Vietnamese now account for 10 per cent of residents, the second-largest nation group in the building. Japanese tenants make up 15 per cent of the residents.

Marc Townsend, managing director of CB Richard Ellis Vietnam, confirmed that this year Vietnamese would be the prime targets in the second home market, replacing foreign buyers. A super-deluxe segment will open up in the market this year, Townsend said, and it would start to attract serious attention from buyers. Initially properties in this bracket will be offered at $10,000 per square metre. Villas priced at $3 million will also be up for grabs.

And high-end services

Vietnamese are also starting to use the services of five-star hotels more often, a market that also used to be dominated by foreigners. Pham Thi Bich Huong, public relations manager at Hanoi’s Daewoo Hotel, said Vietnamese customers were becoming more comfortable using the services offered by hotels, especially for dining out and weddings.

Huong said for special occasions such as the traditional lunar festival, children’s festival, Christmas and Valentine’s Day, the hotel had received reservations from more than 500 Vietnamese customers.
Even in 2008 and 2009 when the global financial crisis hit hardest, these services were still well used by Vietnamese, she said.

“Although the number of foreigners reduced sharply, the crisis did not seem to impact our domestic customers. Making a reservation to eat at a five-star hotel is now commonplace among many Vietnamese families.” Moreover, Huong said the hotel had had to refuse many customers who tried to make late reservations for special occasions.

“That means the demand [for the services of five-star hotels] is still strong among Vietnamese,” she said. More and more Vietnamese families are choosing five-star hotels as wedding venues for their children.

Nguyen Hien Minh, who organised a wedding for her son at the Melia Hotel last year, said she had to reserve the ballroom many months before the actual wedding because the demand was so high – even though the hotel can accommodate two weddings per day.

“We approached many five-star hotels and luckily the Melia still had a vacancy on the day chosen by the fortune teller,” Hien said.

VietNamNet/VIR

[tomcat007]

Can someone help me to translate the following please?

She: Ah Thuy, Em di binh duong lam nha. Y sao duoc kg

Me: Xin loi, anh kg hieu em noi cai gi.

She: Em noi em dinh di lam o binh duong



The first message was sent to me out of the blue yesterday morning. The "Ah Thuy" is referring to me.

From what I guessed, she's saying she decide to work in the military but I'm not sure if I guessed correctly.

Thanks...

[jackbl]

越南新年300人车祸丧生
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　　（河内法新电）今年农历新年期间，越南已有将近300人发生公路意外死亡，大多数车祸涉及 酒后驾驶。
　　越南新闻社报道，根据铁路及公路警察的数据，另有400多人在车祸中受伤。几乎所有的死伤者出事前都喝 了酒。
　　越南从2月13日起放假至20日，庆祝农历新年，许多人趁着长假出外探访亲友。
　　越南人口约8600万，据官方媒体报道，去年的五天农历新年假期期间，平均每天有50人死 于车祸。

[jackbl]

Originally Posted by tomcat007

She: Em noi em dinh di lam o binh duong

From what I guessed, she's saying she decide to work in the military but I'm not sure if I guessed correctly.

Thanks...

she: I decided to work at Bình Dương Province.


Binh Duong (Vietnamese: Bình Dương, 平阳) is a Province of Vietnam. It is located in the southeastern part of the country, immediately to the north of Hồ Chí Minh City. The province was created from Sông Bé Province on January 1, 1997.

The area is considered to be good cropland, and agriculture is an important industry in the province. Bình Dương is also home to a significant manufacturing industry, and in the first half of 2004, the province had the second highest levels of foreign investment in Vietnam. Nike, Adidas, H&M and McDonald’s have set up factories to manufacture goods they sell locally and abroad in the province. The southern Dĩ An and Thuận An wards are highly urbanised and are now encompassed within the Hồ Chí Minh City metropolitan area.

[tomcat007]

Thanks, Jack.

Further reply from her just now...

Me: em noi em dinh di lam o binh duong. Lam gi? Chung naoi em di?

She: Ngay 27 em di. lam cong ty may

I know she says she's going on 27th, but I not sure what's "cong ty may". Is it working as seamstress, as I search:

ty : service
may : to sen, to stitch

Thanks.

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by tomcat007

She: Ngay 27 em di. lam cong ty may

công ty = company
máy = machine

she is working in some machinery company

[tomcat007]

Thanks KT.

Paisey for the many request for help today... (Quite concerned as she's another quite good girl, good as in character and good to me when she's here.)

Another of her reply....

She: Em la tho may ma... hihi Tu nha em di binh duong toi 8 tieng nen em kg biet khi nao moi ve nha nua... Ngay may thang 4 anh moi di Vietnam?

Just to confirm whether my understanding here is correct...

She: I am tailor ma... hihi From her home to binh duong needs about 8 hour, so she don't know when she's going back home again. Then she ask me am I going VN in April?

Please advise.

[jackbl]

Originally Posted by tomcat007

She: Ngay 27 em di. lam cong ty may

I know she says she's going on 27th, but I not sure what's "cong ty may".

BTW how u learn your vietnamese? Didnt u use any dictionary? The words "cong ty" and "may" can easily be found.

[jackbl]

Originally Posted by tomcat007

She: Ngay 27 em di. lam cong ty may

I know she says she's going on 27th, but I not sure what's "cong ty may". Is it working as seamstress, as I search:

Originally Posted by tomcat007

She: Em la tho may ma...

Sms w/o sign is very confused... when she sms more then i realised cong ty may could have 2 meanings.
1) company machinery
2) company sewing

Tho may also got 2 meanings:
1)thợ may = tailor
2)thợ may = mechanic

From here, i guess she is going to work in a sewing factory/company as a tailor.... chance of her being a mechanic is slim

To avoid confusion, call her direct since the cost of 1 SMS 15cents is almost the same as a International Call of 16cents/min.

[tomcat007]

Dictionary? Yeah, the publish kind (in my iphone), not the long hair kind.

When trying to translate, words that I don't know I tend to go through every possibilities. For example, there are 3 Os in TV and for each O, there are 5 sound. So, to search for "cong", I go through as much as 15 variations. Furthermore, this is the first time I saw this phrase "cong ty". "Ty" alone gives me service. Then in the first message, "binh" gives me military... Everything plus together made me anxious already. You see... She's got a 3 y/o daughter at home and as she's good to me when she's here, I'm very concerned about her.

Different from my Ha Noi girl (whom I don't want to feed), this is one that I thought of "cham soc" but I never mention anything to her until I find out her real situation when I meet her in April in AG.

LOL... A lot of trial and error lah, since now all my girls went back to VN already and no one to check with since I'm about the most proficient in TV among my fellow cheongsters.

Anyhoo, the best part is now that I know "cong ty" refers to company, I added it to my notepad and my TV knowledge has just increased.

[tomcat007]

Originally Posted by jackbl

Sms w/o sign is very confused... when she sms more then i realised cong ty may could have 2 meanings.
1) company machinery
2) company sewing

Tho may also got 2 meanings:
1)thợ may = tailor
2)thợ may = mechanic

From here, i guess she is going to work in a sewing factory/company as a tailor.... chance of her being a mechanic is slim

To avoid confusion, call her direct since the cost of 1 SMS 15cents is almost the same as a International Call of 16cents/min.

It's sewing, as she mentioned to me before that she does tailoring in VN before coming here to work. If that's really the case, then I'm glad that she's taking my advice of not coming here to work in KTVs...

We tried calling before, but it always end up chicken and duck talk, as I can write but cannot speak and she can only speak Vietnamese and very very broken chinese. Hence, final solution is she purchase a new SIM card that allows her to SMS (as her original SIM card got no SMS one...)

Oh... I managed to locate a SMS service that charges only 8.8 cent for global SMS. And the best part is that on the recipient phone, she still get to see your phone for caller ID. So effectively, it's almost like 41% savings roi.

Thanks....