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[nono1973]

Originally Posted by syt4me

This is for nono,

Thanx for taking the time to go through my post.

Thank you once again becos with your further reply to my post,i was able to further analysis your experience better.

Originally Posted by syt4me

Well let's start with my fr from before. I guess it is to show other newbies to batam what can go right or wrong.
And in retrospect what seems to some as bad might actually be not so bad after all.

Every FR here is a learning experience for myself up till today. Believe it or not,i was once there where you were standing before (just not in Batam) and thereafter, I also witness others who once upon a time ago make the same choice as you.

Originally Posted by syt4me

The term I would like to use for my trip is a "learning experience". I know many bros won't post their stupidity online,
but then again this is where we share. I really appreciate reading all the post you guys share, and felt that I should do my part as well.
The newbies can learn from my mistakes and the seasoned chiongsters can have a laugh.

Nothing should be branded as stupid when it comes to detail and sincere sharing (from my own perspective). Show me any senior or seasoned bro here who didn't make any mistake/s when they were once a newbie. I bet 5 rupiah with you that there's none.

We all learn as we grow.

Originally Posted by syt4me

Okay time to answer your questions.

We stared prowling at about 1:30. A little late I know but the tummy was hungry.

130pm Batam time,only right to have lunch at that hour since its 230pm Singapore time. Its a Tuesday,i am surprise they have so little girls at that hour. Interesting,..you see, once you shared the timing of your visit ,it becomes I am learning from you now,hehehe...

Originally Posted by syt4me

I can't remember exactly but know that we started at Kupukupu. Only 4 gals sitting there, none to our taste. Went to 4 others, only bunga had the numbers, but still not the looks.
Got to Sri Kandy about 2:15.

Looks to me,KupuKupu's business is getting better than before.

I notice something here,more girls in the joint = lesser business and lesser business could mean a few things. Its a weekday, the girls not so good ,poor reputation and/or they are priced too high. My target for booking joints nowadays are those that can have their girls booked off fastest even on a weekday. (I don't visit many joints just to view their girls,i observe)

I will have to gauge the percentage over the total number of girls there versus the number of them left to be chosen. Of course if you wish to see more girls,you will need to be at the right place on the right time,but it wont means they are good. Luck still plays an important.

Just sharing my experience here.

Originally Posted by syt4me

I know bro fde83 posted a "avoid at all cost EREN". But as I said I forgot to ask the name. I don't speak bahasa, sammyfriend translated for me.
Not polite to ask someone you met the first day to translate so much

Most SYTs are problematic in Batam (say about 60%-70% of them). When I say SYTs here,i am referring to those below 23 years old,7.5/10 above looks and have never given birth before.

A little advise here which I was very close to spelling it out to you in my previous post to you but I was holding it back.

Collect name card from the joint where you book a girl. Ask it from the OKT whom you book from your girl from,,so you have the OKT's name (and contact) now, next is ask the OKT for your girl's name. With a "translator", you lost a chance to solve all the 1st hand issue and one of them would be communicating with the OKT even when you both do not exactly understand each other. Some OKTs will even write the name of your girl you booked on the back of their name card while some will even write down those you didn't book yet but has already been bookmarked by you (otherwise,you can also ask and he/she will be happy to write it down).

Remember, with the name card on hand,the girls who saw you take it will know one thing for sure, you have the ability to contact their OKT.

Originally Posted by syt4me

DETAILS.
Which is also why I posted GREEN HAIR, so no one could miss that.

Thumbs up to you on this one!

Originally Posted by syt4me

Now my biggest mistake was letting her go get her obat. Then again, I didn't pay for it, she took it before she came back, and I honestly don't even know what type it was .
Could have been legal spanish fly or german sex drops. Then again, no obat no crazy sex.

I don't think I wish to discuss the type of drugs here in the public forum,those were the ones that could make her feeling agitated when the addiction kicks in. Her agitation was also being portrayed in the hyperactivity during your written FR.

Originally Posted by syt4me

Just to clarify on one point, she let you autoroam, only when she wants to sleep,
no touching, hugging or anything.
I guess I was expect more GFE and cuddle up to sleep.

Noted.

Originally Posted by syt4me

My main complaints of her was the sleep no touch part and the fact that she was
continually wanting to do this and that. I told her that I came with friends and cannot make the decision without them.
She complained about that too. She wanted to go clubbing, no one else did. Wanted to go newton, then said titanium etc.

When you are looking for the SYT,be prepare for all these type. With what you just mentioned above, you MAY probably be able to book her around 500k to 800k rupiah during a weekday NOT from her booking joint.

(notice why she ask you how much you pay for her booking? Think...)

Enough said here.

[starocean]

Originally Posted by tomcat007

Interesting. Where is this Spa?

Not wanting to belittle any cewek there, I do believe that if your offer is good enough, there's always a chance that you can get to up the girl of your choice. If money don't work, then use kc lor. Sometimes, you may need to go there a couple of times...

At da vienna hotel 3Rd floor I suppose

[nono1973]

Originally Posted by syt4me

I know I tipped her too much. Sorry guys about that, but I did run out of idr, and had to change more after she left.

No need to be sorry or even feel sorry as long as you have learned what went not-right. And I am not talking about over-tipping nor spoiling the market etc but instead it is MORE on the message you carry over to a not-so-good girl with your tips.

You are telling the girls,with lousy service,lousy attitude..i can get a big fat tip too,the rest of the girls with good attitude who offered fantastically good service only gets back a fraction from my bad and worse.

Now do you notice what went not-right here? I pity her next and other future customers, hehehe...well...other than bro S of course,hehehe...

Originally Posted by syt4me

Also to answer your question about how much i gave her for taxi and lunch. 100k for 3 taxi rides and lunch.

Thank you.

Originally Posted by syt4me

One question to ask: I thought that if you paid a certain amount for the first night, the second would be the same.
Never thought of bargaining lower for the second night.

Ask you again, why do you think she ask you how much you pay for her booking from the joint in the beginning? And later press you on the booking extension (this is something uncommon among girls in booking joint). I bet my 5 rupiah with you,if you were to reject her extension of booking during then,the price of re-booking her for a million rupiah "will not be too difficult" to achieve (i don't dare use the word 'easy' here, but I believe 800k would still be possible). And she earns way more when you pay directly to her.

Note : Not every girl is the same

I wouldn't say my friend bro S would be able to book her for less than 1.2 million rupiah in my previous post for nothing,hehehe...

Alternative to bargaining for better price, you can also bargain for better service too since the ball is in your hand.

She may ask me : Kor kor,you want to extend another night with me?

My answer : See how's your service 1st,if tonight your service very very good and you make me very Happy, extend 3 more nights also No problem (which of course is a lie).

And if you are as good as bro S, you can get both the good service AND a better price,hehehe... Money is yours and it would be your call how to spend it.

Barter trade deal,hehehe...you win,she win,everybody wins.

Originally Posted by nono1973

Eren is meant for Bro S,hehehe...but he surely wont have to pay 1.2 million rupiah booking fee for her,hehehe...i side bet with you 5 rupiah,he wont tip more than 150k per night,hehehe...

...and I used a strong word there.

By paying lesser, both you and your girl is NOT losing. You pay less, the girls get to earn more and who knows if your girl knows you can understand the logic behind it which she already knew, you might even get better service out of her.

A win-win situation for both the service provider and the person on the receiving end.

I shant discuss any further on this topic. (as it already cross my line here) The rest of the scenario, you will have to use your imagination to pro-create becos in Batam anything and everything is possible. I have said before,pay high, gets lesser.Pay less to get more...Welcome to Batam Island!

Originally Posted by syt4me

About reading all the post about batam b4 going, I did . Spent 3 weeks going thru your beginners guide, got info from other bros post like black page and
others. There are hundreds of pages and I can only remember that much. Can't actually be going thru post after post in a booking joint.
Maybe next time I go I can tag along with some seasoned fellows like you. Or I can go solo and "wing it".

Every Batam trip is a learning trip. The moment I think I know Batam well enough will be the day I start failing.

You are at step number one now in Batam and once you get pass step number two and three, things will start going smoothly.

Step no.1 when in Batam : Drop your Expectation by at least half on everything.

Step no. 2 : Find out where your most enjoyable time in Batam is,and work from there onward.

Step no.3 : Dwell, understand and enjoy.

If fate allows it,we can link up for a smoke or a drink. But cheonging together...I think for the time being,i need go dwell on my own treasure box of apples 1st. So many apples in my treasure boxes in Batam,but I have so little time to enjoy them....hehehe...who knows one day you will also be able to gather your 'apples' too.

Originally Posted by syt4me

Well my next trip is to bkk early next year to try out bjbars and what else they have to offer.

Have a good Bangkok trip.

Apply step 1 to step 3,anywhere you go in the world, you will enjoy better...hehehe...

Originally Posted by syt4me

Hopefully won't see any green hair on my next trip to batam.

Sounds like you are facing some green hair monster,hehehe...

I believe after your reply to my previous post that were address to you and my current reply to you,...you most likely already roughly knew where you stand in your last Batam trip,the things you didn't do right and the situation that went not-right.

Start step number one now...any of your trips wont have a chance to turn out too bad,hehehe... and may you have a better next trip.

Cheers!

[syt4me]

Thanx for all the positve comments bros. I think that for my next trip I might spend more time
exploring.

Perhaps a booking joint for 1 night, ktv gal another then maybe newton or massage gal the last. Dunno if massage girl can be booked for the night but can sure try and ask.

I had a friend who actually waited for the bartender at a club to finish work,
and had her from about 3am to 9am for 500k.
From what he told me, he just sat at the bar and talked to her the whole night,
after about 2 hrs she made the offer to meet him after for 500k.
So I guess nothing is impossible.

Nono,

I did take the name card from the joints. Did speak to the okt, and the green haired monster
was looking at me and smiling. After the disappointments in the other joints,
I jumped at the chance at the first skinny syt that appealed to me. Guess I am one that goes for looks. We had already gone to so many joints,
and there were only a few remaining ones left that we knew of. We also knew that it was getting a little late, so I guess we all jumped made rash decisions.
Guess everyone is different, for me, if the girl doesn't appeal to me, I can't get it up. No matter how many holes she offers.

[syt4me]

Continuation-

By the way, my friends were all very satisfied with their girls and all extended.

The thing about dropping expectations I understand. I have never booked escorts before,
the type like in batam, where you can bring them out for meals, movie and partying. So didn't really know what to expect. What I wanted was the GFE feel.
In other words companionship. If I only wanted to get laid, I would have gone for 3 ST with 3 different girls. To get an escort in sg to accompany you to do all
those things then 3 rounds of sex would cost in the thousands.

We can get better sex in sg, but not what I mentioned without burning a whole in the wallet.

I guess that was what I wanted to have in batam. Try something different.
END-

[microdjsim]

Originally Posted by syt4me

Continuation-

The thing about dropping expectations I understand. I have never booked escorts before,
the type like in batam, where you can bring them out for meals, movie and partying. So didn't really know what to expect. What I wanted was the GFE feel.
In other words companionship. If I only wanted to get laid, I would have gone for 3 ST with 3 different girls. To get an escort in sg to accompany you to do all
those things then 3 rounds of sex would cost in the thousands.

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depend on luck one.... most SYT don't offer such GFE level and some do. I did such before, where i bring her go out to watch movie, eat dinner, supper, etc. no sex involve. not bad la... she quiet accommodating. Take note, she is not SYT. lol.

[tomcat007]

Try looking at 24-28/9 age range, I've the best experience from girls this age range. So good until I've to run away from them. Bro S will know..

Also, sometimes, gfe'ness have to cultivate. I'm now hitting it off with a 21 y/o but she's not from a joint. She's freelance, but at only 21, she's good in her service, comm, and gfe'ness. Not the drop dead pretty type though. Passable at 6/10. But I enjoyed my time with her most, despite she only get $25 out of the short time deal. I'm meeting her this Saturday and this is when she start to earn her money.

[tomcat007]

Another one that I've good experience is a 25 years old WeChat girl. Yup, I go for WeChat girls a lot especially if I'm in Batam on Friday night where most joints would be kosong already.

She's prettier, at 7.5/10, but B- boobs. Service is good and friendliness is there. Accommodating too. Fits into the 24-28 sure hit category.

[tomcat007]

Like microdjsim says, a lot depends on luck. By nature, Indon WL don't give high gfe unless she's damned experience in this line or have feeling with you. That's why I said previously that's why Thai/PRC can command $160-$200 1-2 shots and Indon only command $100 for 2 shots. Most of them really just offer a warm temporary parking space for your dick, that's all.

[tomcat007]

Need young pretty cewek with good gfe , can try the youngest girl at Kupu2. She always sit on the extreme left. That also meant that she's most expensive. Took her once, no regrets for the price I paid. But didn't dare to rtf for fear of getting stuck. Might not be the youngest anymore after her birthday a month plus ago. However, she don't smile much in the showroom. In fact, she don't smile at all. But in the room, she's really the livewire.

[iicycold]

Originally Posted by tomcat007

Interesting. Where is this Spa?

It's called Vienna Spa @ Da Vienna hotel. Higher-end kind of spa like Spa Secret. Business there is nt good but there's promo de,if i dn't r'ber wrg it shld be 20% off durin their happy hr.

1 hr indo msg avg 350k++,thai msg abt 375k++ (exclude serv chg & tax)

So gers there not reli hard up 4 special serv unless she likes u veri much or u willing 2 pay SG price or more.

[syt4me]

[QUOTE=tomcat007;15372047]Need young pretty cewek with good gfe , can try the youngest girl at Kupu2.

Will try your advice next time. Maybe can even take your lead and try wechat girls.




Just a pic for u guys. Greeeeen

[Black Page]

[QUOTE=syt4me;15372147]

Originally Posted by tomcat007

Just a pic for u guys. Greeeeen

Who is this girl? Her name? Her face reminds me someone from the past...
(I understand this is not the girl mentioned by tomcat007?)

[syt4me]

[QUOTE=Black Page;15372226]

Originally Posted by syt4me

Who is this girl? Her name? Her face reminds me someone from the past...
(I understand this is not the girl mentioned by tomcat007?)

Green haired girl erend. Now no one can miss. Go to facebook and type erend. To see more. Even got pics of obat if u look far back enough. Look at her facebook, she can dance, so if anyone wants a dancing partner find her. Pity they haven't got any lapdance gogobars in batam. She might make a killing there. Haha.

[Black Page]

Originally Posted by syt4me

Green haired girl erend. Now no one can miss. Go to facebook and type erend. To see more. Even got pics of obat if u look far back enough. Look at her facebook, she can dance, so if anyone wants a dancing partner find her. Pity they haven't got any lapdance gogobars in batam. She might make a killing there. Haha.

THANK YOU.
Wow, the (in)famous EREN. No, she is not the Ayu which I used to know (I still have her on wechat, I see she offers "ST BO").

Well, if I see her FB profile and her videos, the first thought that comes to my mind is STAY AWAY. My impression is that the last thing she must have in her mind must be to please a customer.
Definitely not a girl to book. I would take a ST, but only on site and if I know that the papi is strong enough to ensure discipline from his girls.
This girl needs a leash LOL