Advise please

[ciakpachineng]

Originally Posted by Jun|ch|

yah i do not have the money to stay in BKK...she does not have to support her family as her parents were divorced and stays elsewhere...she is staying with her grandma...i wish her to stop work but how is it going to solve the issue of not able to keep her by my side?just yesterday weekend for the first weekend i did not go over to BKK...because i am so broke now and my company holds back my pay cheque...i am a freelancer btw...she cried over the phone last two nitex tellin me she miss me so much...i feel so helpless..

Bro, Don't be offended but IMHO, options of your current situation can be analysed in Multiple Choice (MCT):
(A)she loves U and love is pulling U both together
(B)she does not love U and is pulling U into big trap
(C)U R pulling our legs and have read too many Mills & Boons, Chung Yao books/movies

You have benefit of doubt on (C) so left with (A) or (B)....
Only U can gauge whether it is (A) or (B).... you seem to think that it is (A) but beware as many WL are Oscar-potential "actresses"

Assuming U R supersure that it is (A).... then your MCT are:
(A) she be the man and feeds U while U be like Thai loser (eat soft food).
(B) she waits while improve your financial situation so U can be a man and support her
(C) U break off....painful but if U R a man...U can take it and she can get thru'

Now (A) can be eliminated as man are born naturally to be providers/givers. U may not realise it now but U will realise it too late in your last breath.
Which leaves U with (B) & (C)....
(B) looks the best for time being as U can also let time test your love for each other...to be fair to her give her a timeframe so she need not wait for U forever and U work towards that goal....If U cannot meet the goal, U both can move on with your own lives as it not the end of the world yet!

[Jun|ch|]

Originally Posted by ciakpachineng

Bro, Don't be offended but IMHO, options of your current situation can be analysed in Multiple Choice (MCT):
(A)she loves U and love is pulling U both together
(B)she does not love U and is pulling U into big trap
(C)U R pulling our legs and have read too many Mills & Boons, Chung Yao books/movies

You have benefit of doubt on (C) so left with (A) or (B)....
Only U can gauge whether it is (A) or (B).... you seem to think that it is (A) but beware as many WL are Oscar-potential "actresses"

Assuming U R supersure that it is (A).... then your MCT are:
(A) she be the man and feeds U while U be like Thai loser (eat soft food).
(B) she waits while improve your financial situation so U can be a man and support her
(C) U break off....painful but if U R a man...U can take it and she can get thru'

Now (A) can be eliminated as man are born naturally to be providers/givers. U may not realise it now but U will realise it too late in your last breath.
Which leaves U with (B) & (C)....
(B) looks the best for time being as U can also let time test your love for each other...to be fair to her give her a timeframe so she need not wait for U forever and U work towards that goal....If U cannot meet the goal, U both can move on with your own lives as it not the end of the world yet!

definitely not C for this case... well i am pretty sure its A and as for the choices...i do not think i can stay in BKK and eat soft food...i can never be happy myself. I think i would rather die than doing that. I want to break off and open up choices for her but she does not want to. She is kinda of naive in that sense she thinks i am the guy for her. Before she has a Thai man who takes care of her for 7years...have car and condo but she was very indifferent to him cos he butterfly and frequents MPs.Now she is the one giving in to me and trying ways to make this relationship works

[Jun|ch|]

Originally Posted by john teo

No offence first, brother
Many girls will do anything to come here. Once achieved PR status, its goodbye. I do not mean her. Just take note.
Not pouring cold water on you hor, brother.

yeah i know of the stories behind all that. I know u do not mean her but i do know that she feels and knows i will not be able to bring her to singapore already that is why she decides to save money and currently looking for apartment for us and in fact wanted to throw away my passport and not want me go back the last trip on 16th march 05...i appreciate ur concern regarding that she wants to make use of me.

[DNAT]

Originally Posted by john teo

No offence first, brother
Many girls will do anything to come here. Once achieved PR status, its goodbye. I do not mean her. Just take note.

shame shame ... copy cat 1 ... I said the above earlier ...

[DNAT]

Originally Posted by Jun|ch|

yeah i know of the stories behind all that. I know u do not mean her but i do know that she feels and knows i will not be able to bring her to singapore already that is why she decides to save money and currently looking for apartment for us and in fact wanted to throw away my passport and not want me go back the last trip on 16th march 05...i appreciate ur concern regarding that she wants to make use of me.

KNN, then you better get ready a nice nice Siam name .... hehehe
(mai hot ya)

thing is .. you 1 2 stay in BKK meh?

[waypastprime]

Originally Posted by thaivisitor

If she does not go out with customers, how did you end up able to book her? So, no such thing. Every girl working in agogo bars, including the waitresses have a minimum requirement of "bar fines" which is about 8 bar fines. For every bar fine short, the boss will deduct 500 baht from their basic pay which is about 5K to 6K per month.

Very easy. If she mentioned that she wont go out with customers, just put her on a simple test. Anyone just go over and test her (provided Jun is willing to furnish with the details)

[DNAT]

Originally Posted by thaivisitor

KNN, look at your fucking pts!!!!! Go round asking people why they zap you izit?

actually hor I see his avatar liao feel like zapping him ...
no minah / no SYT ... so must zap

[l3atu]

Originally Posted by Jun|ch|

Now she is the one giving in to me and trying ways to make this relationship works

Firstly, have you explain clearly to her the situation u are facing ? Tell her ur problems face to face. Going there weekly will add to ur financial problems instead of solving them. Going on alternate weekends could help you save 2 weekends of cheong $$$ for marriage if everything turns out fine. I used to be like u...cheong on every weekends till I'm really broke for that mth.

Secondly, have you spoken to ur parents abt the possibility of having her as their daughter-in-law ?

Thirdly, have you checked with ICA on the terms and conditions on bring her into Singapore ? It should be fairly easy unless she is under 18 yrs old. If she ever step foot on SG soil and got denied entry, it will be harder on the 2nd try...

After you have completed all this, it will be 70% clearer on wat u should do next.

[ryanlim]

Originally Posted by waypastprime

Very easy. If she mentioned that she wont go out with customers, just put her on a simple test. Anyone just go over and test her (provided Jun is willing to furnish with the details)

who sponsor huh??????

[Jun|ch|]

Originally Posted by thaivisitor

And you say you cannot support her?
Also, does it mean that your pay is so low that you can not even get married to anyone for that matter? Not even SG girls? If you can, why is it that you said you cannot support her?


If she does not go out with customers, how did you end up able to book her? So, no such thing. Every girl working in agogo bars, including the waitresses have a minimum requirement of "bar fines" which is about 8 bar fines. For every bar fine short, the boss will deduct 500 baht from their basic pay which is about 5K to 6K per month.


So before you think that she will "sacrifice" herself just for you, do be aware that it is NOT a sacrifice at all as, believe me, she is already doing that. Have you read or heard about them talking over the phone with their "tiraks" while being fucked by others at the same time?

I'm telling you that EVERY MONTH she has bookings, both overnight and short time or else her pay will be 6,000 baht (basic) minus 4,000 baht (Bar fine shortage) plus 3,000 baht (tips from drinks) which will be 5,000 to 6,000 baht which she might as well work as a dish washer.

And if you think that every month there are 8 customers who will bar fine her without bookings, you must really be very naive. What the fuck do people go to agogo bars for?

Bro, I'm not saying that she doesn't like you or love you or is bluffing you. Afterall, she is human. But that is another thing altogether.

i have depleted my savings from the weekly trips to bangkok ...and i am currently waiting for my pay cheque that is delayed...i am workin onli as a freelancer and I know of the obstacles i need to face to bring her over and the immigration procedures.

I can vouch for her that she started work only 6days and got to know me back then.Called it naive but i do know of the stories behind all the lies about being the first customer and such..and yes she was deducted all her monthly pay because she was unable to pay recent month of Feb. when i first know her in Jan I paid for her barfines and i do aware that her friends get paid 8000baht for going with customers and for not going with customers she get 1000baht deducted.

yes i heard of stories from stickman posts as well as sammyboy regarding the girls f**king their piichais while talking for me. As i said she called me straight after work and all the way in the taxi to her home and everything.

i pratically with her more than half the time during the two months and how would a customer allows her to call me every hour and goes through the whole process of taking taxi from NAna to outside bKK to her home till almost 4am to start "f**kin" her??

i appreciate your doubts in her and i had gone through the doubts many times already and i am sure she is truthful...now is whether what should i do...

[Jun|ch|]

Originally Posted by DNAT

KNN, then you better get ready a nice nice Siam name .... hehehe
(mai hot ya)

thing is .. you 1 2 stay in BKK meh?

provided i can fend for myself

[DNAT]

Originally Posted by l3atu

Going on alternate weekends could help you save 2 weekends of cheong $$$ for marriage if everything turns out fine. I used to be like u...

talk so easy ... but hard to loon leh ...
I last time also .. friday after work bring bag straight away go WTC liao .. Sun afternoon then come back - Stayed at a ex-cewek's rented apartment, never give her $ but pays on trasport/food/groceries/household items [doesn't include her lai-ang napkins] and nite scene expenses.

2 months later, I broker she also broke so we splitted. later on she came over to roam at Orchard Tower, I let her stay at my house (stayed alone that time)

[Jun|ch|]

Originally Posted by waypastprime

Very easy. If she mentioned that she wont go out with customers, just put her on a simple test. Anyone just go over and test her (provided Jun is willing to furnish with the details)

i do not mind to put her on the test...i would gladly furnish the details and pay for the drinks the latter has to incurred while testing her out. just remember not to quote u are from singapore...cos she is wary of me testing her out as i told her i have a friend in BKK who is Sporean...can say u from china or watever...i would like to know the truth too

[l3atu]

Originally Posted by DNAT

talk so easy ... but hard to loon leh ...

But I managed to loon leh...

[DNAT]

Originally Posted by l3atu

But I managed to loon leh...

No proof