Searching for a cocktail pick to poke my lychee. :p (In need of a fling/FB.)

[BlackerKnighter]

There is usually at least two sides to every story. Some time more. So not so simple lor.

Spent a while checking through the thread yesterday also but no lah si mi classic?

Entertainment value yes like many of the desperado thread in tis section but anything else got meh?

She try to sell herself and her story and surely will have her supporter to blow her trumpet but people who don't buy her shit also got right to waste their time and TCSS back.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. we share and agree to agree or even disagree also no big deal. TS may say this and that but what do the evidence really say?

I do my own 'analysis' and also not come to same conclusion as bro above leh.

I know a few quite rich quite privileged sort of girls too. They are spoilt, irritating and materialistic. A lot of them also sleep around and behave like sluts.

But If they are starved of attention or care they will never have to resort to SBF to satisfy their urge. Why? coz there are better, easier catches to be found elsewhere. No hassle and no need to waste time.

SBF is a gathering ground for cheongster. Some might be rich others intelligent but generally you cannot say that its a good gathering place for decent, caring BF/FB sort. Sex-starved nymphos wouldnt come to a place crawling with people who hang out all the time at chicken dens to look for a partner. Especially if they are already rich and successful.

Trust me, they are smart so there are better hunting grounds for them to look for rich guys more similar their background with ample cocks, good bonking skills and great taste in wine, music etc.

TS? She act class only lah. Which decent or even indecent rich pretty gal will come to this forum to look for chye tow? Don't make sense at all.

What if TS not who she say she is?

So why SBF? Coz she is already familiar with the place? Maybe she is already use to the attention here? maybe because she always like the ego thing that she better than most samsters? Because she already is addicted to sex-for-favours way of thinking?

What if she is really just another front for a ex or current FL? just trying to get lucky? How will you know?

This forum also a lot of other whores selling themselves so no need to be so shocked la. But also don't need to pretend you are not one if you are one.

You are certainly not shy about opening your legs so why should you act so shy about opening your mouth to name a price?

Act so precious so hard to get and so different so high and mighty really meh? Price only what.....

She is just looking for a sugar daddy that must be yandao, smart and rich and still willing to let her be a slut elsewhere. No big deal.....Everyone even whores can aspire to bigger things but be transparent lor.

Aiyah want gd handsome BF or FB that care can look elsewhere. Want chye tow that can sexxxtisfy u and still let you tao chiak maybe your monthly package negotiate a bit la. Want more $$$ can study hard and then work hard and honestly for it. Want attention oso must deserve mah. Dont need cut corner kind la. Want everything in one package that is just ultimate whore dream lor.

[Ezio]

I CANNOT believe I am only reading this after 6 months of this ruckus. FML!

My 2 cents: those who are decrying the TS as a whore/looking-for-sugardaddy type generally appear to feel as if their moral compass has been violated - violated by the machinations of someone who bent the rules of engagement that we have grown comfortable and dare I say, complacent with.

Who taught you what a whore is? Your mom? Your school, worse, your church? Society? Now, I'm not saying that anyone who comes to SBF is supposed to have adopted a new open-world view of life and how we should approach it. But trying to fit the actions of our dear TS into your own world order may make for a pretty unsightly mess.

Those who claim to represent the "rich, decent, caring BF type" in our society will not always appear to be what we think they seem. The big bad wolf exists in everyone - it is an element that lies in all of us, rich or poor, young or old, man or woman of whatever skin. SBF is simply a beacon for that dark side; it doesn't mean we can't (aspire to) be decent people, friends and lovers too.

Our country needs more intelligence and articulate ladies like the TS who know their way around the shitty games of "face" and judgement that our society plays. This thread gives me some hope for Singapore yet.

[tookara]

whoa so many Walls of text!!!

[BlackerKnighter]

Originally Posted by Ezio

Our country needs more intelligence and articulate ladies like the TS who know their way around the shitty games of "face" and judgement that our society plays. This thread gives me some hope for Singapore yet.

HAHAHAHAHA!!! Bro, your last para really the funny lah, esp the last sentence. If the TS kind = best, brightest hope for this shit hole lion city then might as well really call it Sinkapore lor! See you all at the bottom......

Her thinking new and challenging? Sounds just like old school chinese gongfu story tale of evil mistress or courtesan what's the fuss? Think like slut only what no big deal really.

I don't know what kind of girls you mix with and I personally know many what you call "intelligent" and "articulate' type. Many of them would scare 95% of the typical samsters coz they are too alpha lor (even the sexy ones).

People oso funny lah.....cannot stand women smarter, more success than them. Why like that arh?

But this TS where got like that one? She is hoping to trade sex for some security in life. Really shows how much confidence and ability she has lor.

I disagree with the bro who said that the TS violate the standard moral compass. This BS has nothing to do with morals la. If anything its her arrogance cum dishonesty that rubs people the wrong way.

I cannot say for everyone else but I got nothing against whore kind one. Nothing at all. But whore whore lor at least be honest la!

And what exactly is a whore? like many bros oredi point out, there are many kinds but basically to make things really really simple, a whore is a person who sells sex for money or some other kind of material reward. Is the TS a whore? You read carefully what she said and what you think?

So? Only a whore and yet want to act so garang and special for what? The way she talk she like much better than the most hi class FL.

Aiyah..Wear YSLs and carry Bottega so what? A whore still a whore what?! Dishonest whore with hi so pretensions she only make herself to be mocked at, haizzzzz....

You are definitely right about the rich decent caring type of white knight though. They exist? On SBF? If she want to dream let her dream lor but other people point out oso not mean we all morally outraged or care or what. TCSS a bit is nothing serious.

of coz we all want to be decent people, friends and lovers too la but searching for a best friend cum lover cum sugar daddy on SBF of all places and then pretending you are not a whore? What for la?

Look, it's very simple lor. You want to buy a nice and expensive piece of daikon (radish or white carrot) you must oso go to the right market ma....and you dont walk into a hair salon to buy antibiotic right?

She comes to SBF to organise a talent / beauty contest where she can play judge, prosecutor and jury and yet cannot take even a bit of criticism what does this say about her?

I have no problems with nymphos, sluts or even whores. But at least must recognise urself in mirror first lor.

Too lazy to get off your ass to earn your own honest money? Too unlucky not to be born into a house where you never ever have to work? Never mind. but don't make so much noise and pretend to be this high society type when you just want to open leg and expect all problems in life solved. That is just cheap thinking where you go anywhere not just SBF people oso will not look you up one.

But of coz TS tai ji is her own problem. She only need to care about what her new patron thinks and what she will be getting in return. Maybe that's why no time to post. Good luck. Just my two or three cents agree or disagree up to you. Just share share only.

[Ezio]

Bro, I don't know which girl in a relationship WILL NOT treat sex as one of their "bartering terms" for security with their man. This is (to me) a rather common thing. If you take it as a sign of no confidence, well, I honestly do hope you find a girl who is 100% confident in her own skin - without sex playing any sort of critical role in the relationship. IMO, just about every girl is vulnerable like that. I think men are also vulnerable, just look at the guys who kena KC-ed. Sex can be a weapon and I think it is important to know when someone is trying to use it as such.

What you see as arrogance and dishonesty, I actually see complete "honesty" via transparency. Did she not tell everyone exactly what she wants? Now, the comparison to an FL keeps coming up. Obviously, in terms of sheer money and effort she asks for more than what any premium FL has ever done.

I think most bros are getting steamed because they are used to "low asking prices" and think she has no right to demand such things because she "appears to be nothing more than a whore". I just see TS as a regular girl who knows what she wants and isn't afraid to say it. It's the whole notion of TS "asking for a price beyond her permitted means" - whereby the "permitted means" are defined by your moral compass (whatever THAT means on SBF) and your experiences - that gets people here angry.

It's not about her morals. There's nothing "moral" about anything on SBF. It's just about what you're used to. And nobody here is used to a girl asking for what the TS has asked for and getting it.

A lot of people are also pretty upset about her "high society" air... There's a significant difference between just liking luxury stuff and trying to be a high society socialite. Hey, I know one or two high society types whose girlfriend was picked up as a Thai disco dancer. You think that's worth laughing at, okay man. But it is simply a fact that the Thai disco girl ended up in a high society environment, not because she asked for it. It looks like TS cares about branded goods, sure, but I don't think that translates into the "must become atas tai-tai" kind of person. I'm sure plenty of the local FLs appreciate luxury goods too but I don't see anyone getting upset about it other than the fellas who complain about golden CB.

I probably should not have said that intelligence and articulation were the things I was impressed with. IMO, by being upfront and transparent about her intentions, I think that is more refreshing in a world where bitches play hard-to-get and after years of trying to pursue them, they lay down even more horrid "requirements" for you that you never saw coming. Or date them for 4 months and they start dropping hints of getting married. Better still, they try to commit suicide when you try to break up with them. (You can clearly tell I am not happy about having the above happen to me.)

Alpha females are a separate problem altogether. Maybe sex is a priority for them but most likely it won't be, because of their go-getter ambitions; they will bully you until you are forced to think that sex isn't necessary. (At which point you will just cheat on them.) So I think it's totally not relevant to talk about alpha females.

While I do agree that it is necessary to "man up" and take criticism, especially so in a flame-fest like SBF, the main point from TS was that such a stunt can't be pulled anywhere else. Where is the "right market" for her intentions?

Well, I suppose the bottom line is that if she's a whore to you, she's a whore to you. My opinion, the world has grown beyond defining girls as merely nymphos or whores. Everyone has their own opinions, so we can agree to disagree. My only interest is to point out that we live in a world where man's (and woman's) true intentions are kept so close to the heart that we often never see it until it is too late, and I simply liked that in this instance, everything was obvious from the start.

Peace out, bros.

[woshixiong]

If a rich gentle kind yandao kia is IN here. I wonder why is he IN here in the first place. Think TS found the right guy ? Think again

[miver]

Chill la ppl... u guys debating sooo hard n writing so long essays. The girl's here to look for smth and if any bros r willing, there's a deal done lo. why take it so hard? We come in here to have fun, destress and share what we have ultimately. So let's create peace n harmony not war =)

[lychee-martini]

Good afternoon all... I can't believe there has been so much commotion during my absence! Well, I have read everything and thank you to everyone for their feedback and opinions. To date, no one has bought me any shoes yet. But I did buy myself a few pairs lately.

Cheerios my darlings....... Have a very merry X'mas and may you all find what you wish for waiting under the tree!

Happy holidays.

[BlackerKnighter]

Good evening and happy holidays to TS and the rest!

Agree we are all here to happy and share share so got different opinion is share opinion only oso no big deal hor!

Originally Posted by Ezio

Bro, I don't know which girl in a relationship WILL NOT treat sex as one of their "bartering terms" for security with their man. This is (to me) a rather common thing. If you take it as a sign of no confidence, well, I honestly do hope you find a girl who is 100% confident in her own skin - without sex playing any sort of critical role in the relationship.

I think sex is one of many things in a R/S not the only thing. If it is the ONLY or MAIN thing that is being traded, then it is not R/S but something else. You can call it what you want but a fair definition would be BEING and PAYING FOR a WHORE. This is my personal view la.

Originally Posted by Ezio

What you see as arrogance and dishonesty, I actually see complete "honesty" via transparency.

If she was 100% honest she wouldn't have been so shifty about her words. She make it seem like she looking for FB but the more you read the more she let on esp btw the line and you know she looking for sugar daddy.

Which is fine and her own tai ji.

She think she can get lucky in hum sup heaven let sher day dream lor. But people point out oso not wrong mah. She want to take or not again her own tai ji.

Plus the way she emphasize that she not FL etc etc in the end she still sound like she just want a super caring and generous sugar daddy NOT a normal FB. Hope you see the difference. And to me and many bros that kind of mistress = kway what?!?? How to siam?

Originally Posted by Ezio

IMO, by being upfront and transparent about her intentions, I think that is more refreshing in a world where bitches play hard-to-get and after years of trying to pursue them, they lay down even more horrid "requirements" for you that you never saw coming. Or date them for 4 months and they start dropping hints of getting married. Better still, they try to commit suicide when you try to break up with them. (You can clearly tell I am not happy about having the above happen to me.)

All I can say is R/S are complex coz people and feelings are complex. People and feelings change and if you dont like what you stuck in better turn around and run.

Again there is a different alternative and its call kio kway. But you must oso know, understand and not mix up whore and R/S. the former is a paid contract. The later is part of real life so some time a bit ambiguous and maybe even painful lor. Life is beautiful coz got bit bit mystrey mah!

Originally Posted by Ezio

So I think it's totally not relevant to talk about alpha females.

Bro, I only talk about alphas coz people talk about the TS being 'confident' and all. And these are people who can't stand truly capable, confident and upfront women in their real lives.

Anyway I don't see much confidence at all. Maybe she is sure of what she wants and wants a easy way out. Is choosing an easier but perhaps less honorable path a sign of confidence? I dont know.

But its quite telling when she start talking about care and love on top of all that. Money can buy true care and love? Sex can exchange for true care and love? You all think leh?

Like I say oredi, how to siam the whore association??

Originally Posted by Ezio

Where is the "right market" for her intentions?

Exactly my point. Whores come here to SBF to trade. So you want to be one then don't say you are not one.

Originally Posted by Ezio

My only interest is to point out that we live in a world where man's (and woman's) true intentions are kept so close to the heart that we often never see it until it is too late, and I simply liked that in this instance, everything was obvious from the start

Bro, the ONLY kind of thing that you can be so up front and 'transparent' is with a whore, whether a street FL, a KTV kway, a HFJ singer, a yuppie mistress, or a pre-nup agreement signed for trophy spouse.

They are all WHORES. And only if you sign up with something like that can you get the transparency you say is very desireable kind.

I think with a real R/S you want to horse trade sex and affection for money and comfort so bloody up front it cheapens everything lor. Two BBBJ COF gets the slut what? ATM (ass to mouth) for ATM (auto teller machine)???

With a whore of coz its a completely diff story......so like I say unless shittypore is going to be whorse nation better not say this kind of future got hope mah!

Whatever la, Just don't mistake the fantasy you pay (and bargain) for with a whore for something else it is not. If so very sad lor.

Aiyah TS tai ji let her settle lah. She want to be a mistress kind of whore go ahead lor. I really honestly and sincerely hope your Chye Tow treats you well and you not disappointed one day. ....

If not study hard, get a well paying honest job then look for successful and caring partner oso not bad wor?! Aiyah ur life ur own choice la! Just look in the mirror and think about it la!

[Ezio]

Originally Posted by BlackerKnighter

Bro, the ONLY kind of thing that you can be so up front and 'transparent' is with a whore, whether a street FL, a KTV kway, a HFJ singer, a yuppie mistress, or a pre-nup agreement signed for trophy spouse.

They are all WHORES. And only if you sign up with something like that can you get the transparency you say is very desireable kind.

Hmmm. I agree with you here. The main reason why I like the idea of transparency is simply that the world could do with less lies and deceit. Such transparency would be nice in "real world relationships" so as to spare people the pain of being with a person who was wrong for them. But based on your views, I would rather not have this transparency if the only way I could get it was "contractually".

On the other hand, how one defines a "contract" these days is up for debate... Is it purely a matter of dollars and cents anymore?

I don't really have much to add to the discussion from here on, but I'm glad that at least we can share our opinions maturely. Happy holidays, mates.

[tookara]

hows the hunt for shoes coming along

[k3lvin123]

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