Tieng Viet lovers club

[Creakic]

Originally Posted by pingone

Hi bros,

any bros can help translate 'e yeu a. e khong muon lam ban'

I love you, I don't want to be just friends.

[jackbl]

Bro, obviously u didnt make full use of my CD given to u for FREE liao....

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

2nd sentence is "i dun wan to work selling or friend"...expert wat you think...

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by jackbl

Bro, obviously u didnt make full use of my CD given to u for FREE liao....

Yes, I know, I had been very lazy to learn...I was posting using my mobile phone so never really check dictionary...

Anyway no harm done but close enough translation...

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by jackbl

Bro, obviously u didnt make full use of my CD given to u for FREE liao....

The CD you give is really very basic tieng viet... you gave me the last time and I forget to tell you I also got that files.

But if are willing to give another kind of CD for free, I am willing to accept many... as I lack of it now.

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by jackbl

Bro, obviously u didnt make full use of my CD given to u for FREE liao....

BTW, I dun need it anymore...do you wan it back so that you an pass on to another keen learner...

[jackbl]

Even ppl withing the same country also discriminate rural students, let alone Foreigner (Custom Sillypore )
Country kid students struggle in the big cities
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VietNamNet Bridge – For many rural students heading to big city universities isn’t as perfect as they imagined it to be.

The reality of the big cities can come as a shock as rurally raised young people complain about high living costs and cultural differences which make it hard for them to integrate.

“People here don’t understand me. They always ask me to repeat myself. I find it hard to communicate so now I only talk with friends from the same province,” said Nguyen Thi Hoai, a new student of the HCM City University of Culture.

Many other students from the central provinces like Quang Nam, Quang Ngai, Binh Dinh and Phu Yen, also say they find communication difficult as a result of their accent. Many admit to becoming quiet in the class and feeling lonely.

Le Thi Bich Huong described herself as a dynamic person who always previously joined in class’ activities. However, she has become quite different since she became a university student. “The saleswomen at the market could not understand what I wanted to purchase. My friends in the same room always joke about my accent,” she said.

‘One time, I came to the market to ask for a bottle of soya sauce. However, the saleswoman asked me to repeat the word so many times that I felt ashamed and I left,” Huong said.

She said friends just point to the things they want to buy, while they dare not speak. Sometimes they have to purchase products at high prices because they dare not bargain.

Meanwhile, other students are also facing problems in daily life.

“Everything is expensive here in HCM City. A bunch of rau muong is priced at 5000 dong, while it was just 1000 dong in my home village,” Thu, a new student of the HCM City Transport University, said.

That explains why many students, who had two million dong in their pocket when they arrived in HCM City and hoped make the money last a month, have run out after just two weeks.

The life style in also unfamiliar with students from the provinces. “Elder students automatically think that I am a house maid. They ask me to do everything. One of them has even borrowed my new shirt to go out,” Dao Minh Tam, a student, said.

Nam, a student of the HCM City University of Culture, complained that he was asked to organise a party in order to be recognised as the new member of the room in the dormitory.

“I wasted 200,000 dong and I got drunk,” he said.

VietNamNet/VnMedia

[jackbl]

Originally Posted by KangTuo

The CD you give is really very basic tieng viet... you gave me the last time and I forget to tell you I also got that files.

But if are willing to give another kind of CD for free, I am willing to accept many... as I lack of it now.

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

BTW, I dun need it anymore...do you wan it back so that you an pass on to another keen learner...

I felt that those basic will lead u to road very far and smooth. If u can pronounce the 6 tonal words, and u can write in their signal, u can self-learnt and progress a long path

Now my compilation consists of mp3 and flv files, dictionary, and programs that translate viet<->english with pronounciation,etc , i think more than those i passed it to u. I learnt less than 10% from it, due to long time in practical fields..... If u learnt 50% I think u wont hv problem communication with a vietnamese

[jackbl]

Vietnam’s Generation 8X – Born to be wild
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VietNamNet Bridge – Vietnam’s twenty somethings are headed out on the highway and looking for adventure.

They are calling it Phuot - a slang term describing a new kind of tourism Vietnamese youth are embracing in large numbers -- traveling on motorbikes to discover Vietnam.

Phuot and du lich bui, meaning “dusty travel”, are the holidays of choice for the “8X” or eighties generation, reports Saigon Tiep thi, a business paper with a keen eye for trends.

Du lich bui means opting for backpacking tourism, self-designed and low-cost tourism with four ‘nos’: no tour, no guide, no bus and no hotel.

Meanwhile the phuot travellers are adventurers and explorers.They like traveling to mountainous areas, where normal Vietnamese tourists would not think of going. They want to discover new lands, culture and people.

Their motorbikes are a means of escape allowing them to breathe fresh air and admire beautiful landscapes on their way.

Westerners may see the trend as replicating what first happened in Europe and North America in the fifties and sixties. Now, in Vietnam young people with money in their jeans and bikes of their own are becoing eastern easy riders. They want to marry later and are bored with traditional youth group activities.

There are many phuot groups in Hanoi organised around a common love of travelling on motorbikes, reports Saigon Tiep thi. Generally, a young man who calls himself TtvnSpace, an experienced member of the phuot community, said that phuot groups always prepare well before trips. Born to be wild they may be – but they still carefully plan routes to follow and draw up itineraries.

Packing is not a simple business either: tools to mend punctures, dried alcohol for cooking, pots for preparing meals, coffee, fast food, medicine and dressings in case of injuries. Everyone is assigned duties.

“When we travel on motorbikes, we can do many things during our trips,” said Thanh Nga, a phuot enthusiast. “I can touch branches of trees and blades of grass, and breathe the fragrance of mountains and forests,” she said

“We can stop for a while on our way if we like, perhaps to brew a cup of coffee,” Nga continued. “We can admire beautiful landscapes at any time we want, take pictures or relax.”

Accidents are the thing phuot travelers fear most. Because they typically travel to remote areas in the northwest, northeast or central region, and go over bumpy roads, they face big risks: motorbikes may break down, or travelers may be thrown from the bikes.

However, the phuot groups are ever optimistic and they never shrink from challenges. One traveler said: “Thanks to the trips, I have experience of traveling on long-distance roads, and dealing with troubles”.

Thu Hoai, another member of the phuot community, does not remember accidents. She remembers instead the moment when she was so excited as her group crossed a pass and saw far below, the smoke of cooking fires rising from a valley village, children and dogs, mountains and forests and terraced fields.

Romances are common too. A bond forged over thousands of kilometers. All the Phuot community in Hanoi know of the love story of TtvnSpace and his bride. The honeymoon Phout’s first couple was also spent on bikes, a trip to four provinces in the northwest, including a first ever circuit of remote Mu Cang Chai (Yen Bai).

Le Trieu Duong, nicknamed Dugia, now in his fifties, was a pioneer among phuot travelers.

Duong is not an indifferent traveler. When he hears about the damages caused by typhoons and floods, Duong collects money, food and clothes from other people and takes them on his motorbike to areas where people need aid.


VietNamNet/Saigon Tiep thi

[jackbl]

Sex not just a laughing matter, experts say
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We love to joke about sexuality, but the subject must be taken more seriously to curb sex crimes, according to a prominent researcher.


A newly released report says that the lack of understanding about sex may be a leading cause of sexual abuse in Vietnam.

“We are used to joking about sexuality but have failed to study it seriously,” said Khuat Thu Hong of the Institute for Social Development Studies (ISDS).

“As a result, we are always confused or avoid discussing the issue when coping with the bad consequences of the lack of sexual understanding,” she said.

She was speaking at a press conference on Tuesday in Hanoi unveiling a study of the social structure of sexuality in Vietnam.

Truth behind every joke?

Hong conducted the report together with Le Bach Duong and Nguyen Ngoc Huong, also from ISDS. The study is included in the book “Sexuality in contemporary Vietnam: Easy to joke about but hard to talk about.”

Hong said Vietnamese people had many misconceptions about sex. While it was a funny subject to joke about, Hong argued that it was time to learn how to talk about sexuality seriously.

“Anything about sexuality that we don’t normally joke about, like homosexuality, is considered sick, unusual or imported from outside the country,” she said.

She said the lack of understandings about sexuality was the main cause of underage sex, premarital abortions, HIV/AIDS, adultery, prostitution and the sexual abuse of children.

“People have mistakenly blamed these issues on the impacts of the market economy and western culture,” she added.

Researchers have said sexuality remained a difficult topic to study, from both a scientific and policy perspective as there was not a body of research to build off.

Experts have also argued that the lack of knowledge about sexuality would threaten any policy and even socio-economic development programs.

Uneven scales

The study, conducted from 2003 to 2008 under the sponsor of the Ford Foundation, found many parents teach their daughters that sexuality is just something that could cause disadvantages, losses, and shame for the girl as well as her family.

The most important message from parents to daughters is to keep themselves away from sexuality, but this is not the message delivered to their sons, researchers said.

Young women thus grow up with the conception that men are dangerous because they are full of sexual desires and that women have to protect themselves.

Up to a quarter of people surveyed for the study said they had had sex before marriage, with 45 percent of men and 23 percent of women answering in the affirmative.

The research group said sexuality outside marriage has been accepted more widely throughout society, but especially by men.

Many men don’t even debate whether or not to have sex outside marriage, instead only thinking about how to conceal affairs with their wives, researchers said.

However, sexuality outside marriage among women is harshly criticized and carries deep social stigma, the study found.

A 45-year-old woman surveyed said that men having sex outside marriage was “just for entertainment” without any intention to marry the mistress. But she said a family could be torn apart when a wife has sex outside marriage.

Family ties

Many people accepted their partner’s infidelity as the cost of maintaining their marriage, while the lack of love and unsatisfied sexual demands were not among the top reasons cited for divorce by the survey.

In these cases, the spouses often maintain their family for the future of their children, saving face for themselves and their family and maintaining the same living standards for all involved.

Unsatisfied sexual demand was not strong enough to break a family but could force people, including the middle-aged, to find sex outside the home. Those having sex outside marriage often said that it was to satisfy their personal demand and that they were trying to find a “solution.”

“A marriage in Vietnam is often protected by any means necessary by all those involved people as well as other social institutions,” the report said.

Reported by Tue Nguyen

[KangTuo]

Some viet gal ask me for the exact translation of the following. I know the meaning but do not know the EXACT translation. Any bro kind enuff help?

TV: Potay
Eng:
Chi:

TV: Hieu chet lien
Eng:
Chi:

[jackbl]

Working condition bad and pay low in Industrial Zone

Originally Posted by jackbl

Originally Posted by jackbl
Hard hours and low pay – a worker’s long day in IZ
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WTO bring job opportunities but income still low for rural women

VietNamNet Bridge – Since Vietnam entered the World Trade Organisation (WTO), rural women have more opportunities yet incomes remain low.

The situation was highlighted in research by the Institute for Labor and Social Sciences which blames the problem on a lack of skills.

The information was taken from interviews with 250 women in the northern province of Hai Duong and southern province of Dong Thap.

According to the research, two years after joining the WTO, the expansion of industrial zones (IZs) in the two provinces have created many more job opportunities for women because most factories are seafood and food processing, garments and footwear, which prefer female workers.

Up to 80-90 percent of workers in these sectors are women. However, job opportunities are mostly available for women below the age of 35, who are secondary and high school graduates.

The research says IZs also attract many migrant female workers from neighbouring provinces. Women between the ages of 17-25 account for over 80 percent of the total migrant workers. Up to 90 percent of migrant female workers say their income has risen.

The income for rural women is still low because they mainly do unskilled tasks. Female workers in the electronics sector earn the highest monthly income, around 2 million dong. The figure drops to between 1.2 and 1.5 million for workers in garment, footwear and seafood processing enterprises.

According to the Institute for Labor and Social Sciences these levels of income are two to three times higher than agricultural production but rural female workers can save only 200,000-400,000 per month after paying for rented rooms and meals.

Moreover, working conditions in most of enterprises are not good. Simple and repetitive tasks for over ten hours a day are very boring for most workers.

Based on the research, the institute proposed 18 recommendations to local and central governments to combine gender into their policies.

Gia Van

[jackbl]

Che! = My fav dessert
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Delicious rather than revolutionary best describes this Vietnamese cocktail.


Nobody knows where che originated from only that the colorful thickshake-like cocktail of many ingredients has been around Asia for a long time.

It’s still common to see a woman put down her shoulder pole and baskets and serve up glasses and bowls of che, though not as much as when the streets were narrower and packed with people rather than motor vehicles.

Other countries with culinary similarities have had a big influence on che.

For instance, the Chinese che served in the restaurants and cafes of Ho Chi Minh City’s District 5 is laced with supposedly therapeutic herbs and spices.

Thai che is fruitier, as are the Vietnamese versions, though the latter are really characterized by the beans, peas and coconut milk of the standard recipe.

Within the country, the style varies from region to region.

Hanoi che is elegant and simple, Hue che is noted for its sweetness, and Saigon che varies according to which fruits are in season.

It’s the pomelo fruit, jasmine and banana oil that give northern che its distinctive taste, and scraped coconut flesh and molasses that sweeten the cocktail without going too far.

Northern che is simple to cook. The base, which can be embellished as you will, is made by stewing a handful of green or black beans for half an hour, sprinkling sugar into the pot according to taste, and adding banana oil.

In the less tropical climate of northern Vietnam, a chilled glass of che makes for a refreshing treat on a muggy summer’s day, just as a piping-hot bowlful is ideal for warming the insides on a frosty winter’s morning.

In Hue in the central region, the local che was a favorite with the feudal kings of old, and the nervous cooks in the royal kitchen were very careful to make it just right lest they incur displeasure from up high.

The modern cook can copy the court chef by shelling some lotus seeds, simmering them with added sugar for a while, putting the seeds into peeled longans to replace the stones that have been removed, and serving the longans with the heart transplant in a bowl of hot sugary syrup.

There are many types of yummy Hue che, one of which is che troi nuoc and is made by wrapping green beans and sugar in sticky rice paste and coating it with sesame seeds, then scalding the lot with boiling water.

Other variations use a liquid made by pouring boiling water over scrapings of coconut flesh, squeezing out the juice, then boiling the juice to prevent an upset tummy.

These include che bap with baby corn, tapioca, dried coconut, wheat flour and sugar; che dau van with broad beans, sugar and flour; che dau do with red beans and sugar; che dau xanh danh with ground green beans and sugar; and che khoai mon with taro and sticky rice.

Down south the che is fattier, relies more on fruit and usually includes lots of small boba balls made by mixing tapioca and carrageenan powder.

Some che recipes are suitable for all climates, notably che ba ba with manioc, sweet potato, green beans, sugar and coconut flesh; che buoi with pomelo skin, sugar, roasted peanuts, dried coconut, and fragrant pomelo; che chuoi with banana, white sugar, banana oil, coconut flesh juice, fresh milk and salt; and the many versions that incorporate common beans.

There are also two che cakes that are commonly laid out as offerings to one’s ancestors at the lunar new year: che kho made with green lentils, white sugar and sesame; and the bitter che lam containing of sticky rice, molasses and ginger.

Plenty of restaurants in Ho Chi Minh City have che on their menus. Here are a few:

Ky Dong: 153/7 Ky Dong Street, Ward 9, District 3

Nam Bo: 16/1A Dinh Tien Hoang Street, Da Kao Ward, District 1

Hoai Pho: 285/94A Cach Mang Thang Tam Street, Ward 12, District 10 .

Cung Dinh Hue: 729 Cach Mang Thang Tam Street, Ward 6, Tan Binh District

Reported by Nguyen Ly

[jackbl]

New graduates try to stay in the big cities, no matter what
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VietNamNet Bridge – Most of Vietnam’s university graduates hope to find big city jobs with attractive salaries. That’s particularly hard for young people from the provinces.


Taking any job till something better comes along

A lot of new graduates have failed to find good jobs that fit their professional training. Even so, they never give up the dream of staying in the big cities. They’ll accept any job they can find (deliveryman, receptionist, salesman or tutor), so that they can get by while waiting for a more professional job.

Phan Thi My Chi graduated from the accounting course of a junior college three months ago. She intends to stay in HCM City ‘at any cost’. Chi has applied to work for many companies but none have interviewed her.

“I graduated with good marks, but I do not have experience, while companies all require relevant work experience,” she said. For now, Chi is assembling footwear for a company at Linh Trung Export Processing Zone while waiting for other opportunities.

Students who studied social sciences seem to face the biggest difficulties finding jobs.

When VnMedia reporters came to meet three new cultural heritage management graduates in their eight square metre room, the young men were considering their finances. Hieu is now a waiter and Hoa is cleaning motorbikes. Thanh also has not found any job in a state management agency. However, because he can play the guitar very well, he has found a job as a guitarist for a café.

The students know well that the opportunities to find professional jobs in the cities are slim. Many agencies and companies have a policy of only employing those whose residence book (ho khau) shows they have the right to reside permanently in the locality. Other companies set high requirements on degrees, appearance and experience of candidates. However, the students still cherish their hope.



Life is tough

While waiting for opportunity to knock, the recent graduates have to face a lot of difficulties. Take Dang Van Thoai from Phu Yen province, for instance. Thoai related that he is now working for Tuan Hung Import-Export Company in HCM City. “I earn two million dong a month. One and one-half million of that goes for my basic needs. I have to take extra classes in the evening and all the money I get is just enough to feed me,” Thoai said.

“Universities and junior colleges only focus on providing theoretical knowledge. Thus we lack necessary skills for our jobs. The university degree just can help you get short-listed,” said Le Thi Hoa, who is now working for Mobifone, the mobile phone service provider.

Tu Anh, a new graduate of the HCM City University of Social Sciences and Humanity, felt lucky when she was secured work as a clerk or an e-commerce company. However, Anh had to ‘say goodbye’ to the company just after two months of working. Though she got many promises before she took the job, but everything turned out to be different. Anh was asked to work in sales as well and she rapidly tired of it.

Nguyen Van Thuong, a journalism graduate, has worries of his own. He is working for VTC television and he always fears that the stiff competition here may weed him out some day.

Yet no matter how hard their lives, no one wants to return to the home villages, because they know that they will not even have opportunities to find jobs there.

VietNamNet/VnMedia

[peirong82]

wats the meaning of vay thu 3 a co toj cho e choi ko???

[peirong82]

meaing of-----,vay thu ba co dj choi ko???