Why guys get cheated by girls? Preventive Guide

[K9696]

Originally Posted by HCKing

9) Never impress girls with money

well i have seen tons of guys doing that, and the end result is......u guessed it.

1. WE always thinking monies can buy LOVE, so end up using tons of monies
to shower her needs.

2. WE are too soft-hearted

[GL-Roamer]

Thank you to all the bros here for the comments and for those who upped me thanks a million, I really appreciate it. As usual this is my humble opinion. I just want to make this as informative as possible for bros who are truly interested. Hopefully their lives get better as well.

Originally Posted by cablesnwires

One note, this guide would be more useful to the ones who are not being KC-ed. This group of people read it objectively. I'm not too sure if the guide is that useful to those who are in the advance stages of being KC-ed, or had already been KC-ed.

For this group, the reason (or excuse) that they have is and you can hear them say it: "My girl is different, she is not like that!"

I definitely agree that those who have been KC-ed or are in the advanced stage of the KC disease are perhaps unable to read this objectively. Sometimes they do not even listen to their best friends because the girls have already wormed their way into their hearts (the ‘I am in love’ syndrome).

I must admit, I have my limitations as well therefore the above guide may not be able to serve as a solution (to KC disease) but it will definitely reinforce certain good practices that keep bros safe from greedy manipulative girls (especially the younger bros and those who have yet to start out).

Coming up next are the skills that everyone is waiting for.

[GL-Roamer]

Skills that get you the Kills (Part 1)
(This is just a catchy phrase, pls use it for your protection nt for vengeance)

Please read the below for what I find as useful skills (in life as well as protecting yourself or getting good safe bonks) some bros may feel that this aren’t skills at all but I term them as skills according to the definition below.

Merriam-Webster online dictionary’s definition of skills: The ability to use one’s knowledge effectively and readily in execution or performance.

The keywords are ‘Knowledge’ and ‘Performance’.

If you are expecting anything unusual akin to a kung fu secret technique that everyone does not know of, I am sorry to disappoint you. These are all very commonly known yet are a rarely acknowledged part of relationships. I just want to emphasise them so that they jump from background to foreground and get noticed.

Everyone to a certain extent have in themselves some of the below skills and I don’t claim to have mastered all the below skills (which in my opinion I feel are the most important). The best thing is that these can be applied to daily life to make you a more successful person (have more $ and u can have more bonks) in my opinion and most of them are either interlinked or act as a foundation for others. I believe that you can probably see the relationship among the listed items below as these are very commonly heard of but seldom practiced but are intricately related. To find out more please read up on the topics as there are tons to talk about these skills but I will make it short by giving a brief combo of explanation and summary. By the way, girls beat guys with regards to the skills below whether they know it or not but this is my observation, that’s why in order to get them you will need to be BETTER than them.

Why skills are needed?

Lets face it whenever guys approach a girl (or in fact anyone) they will need to use their mouths and talk, so what I have listed below have in 1 way or another a relationship with talking that gets you more results (whether it’s a bonk or a date). But talking that uses only your mouth is just a 1 way thing (like giving a speech) it does not bring you anything. Talking that involves your brain, eyes and ears are much more productive because it is no longer just mere talking it has now evolved into an ENGAGEMENT of the mind between both parties. This is why Casanova is able to bonk so many girls from rich ladies to poor maids and at a lower cost (or practically none) and they give it to him willingly (yes they crave it). While the rich guys of his time can only be satisfied with bonking fewer girls (lousier quality) that are only out for their money. Therefore in my opinion your talk must be backed by the skills below to make it effective.


Pls feel free to post whatever skills that you bros think is important that perhaps I have missed out or have not come across before because I would like to know as well.

1) Reading people’s words (Communication)
Communication is 2-ways but is the guy really making it 2 ways or is he taking the girl’s words and warping it to inflate his ego (unconsciously). For example IF a girl say ‘wow u must be rich or else how do you afford such a nice watch’, does the guy think ‘YES!!! I have impressed this girl (ego bloated a bit) and she likes me (ego bloated again)’ OR does he think ‘what is making her ask this question?’ Tone of voice, LISTENING and subtle questioning techniques are important here, in other words reading behind the words. Girls would have mastered communication by 12 yrs old because they practice is everyday by talking and gossiping and also because they value social ties with other girls. Listening is extremely important here. From what I observe guys seldom listen (personal experience, when I talk to guys they sometimes drift of to dream world while reply ‘ok’ or ‘ya’‘ ya’ I can obviously see that their eyes are defocused or focused on other things). Ability to analyse and access the verbal information prevents deception and increases your chances of a bonk coz you will know when to strike based on verbal cues.


2) Understanding Psychology (both sexes)
Many people ‘think’ they know how they think and what makes them tick but the sad fact is many of them are in their dream world. Otherwise why are there so many unhappy people in this world and why are there so many depression cases? It is good to really sit down and think out what makes you tick and what makes a girl tick. Reading about guy and girl psychology will strengthen your weaknesses. This helps in the overall aspect of your defence against deception. Knowing how a girls tick gets you the girl.

3) Reading Body language
I guess everyone here knows that the body tells more than the mouth. If you have felt that someone was not sincere in helping you (although the person says ok with a smile) then you have probably seen an example of this. Your body language is also important as it can help deter potential scams, some girls (whose intention is to cheat) may think twice if your body language exhibits confidence in exposing their ploy. This is one thing that girls are good at this as well. Guys falter here because they focus on the wrong parts (for example breasts / cleavage) or they are in their dream world while engaging the girl and the girl knows it, she can clearly see where your eyes go and she knows you have been nabbed. Learn to use your ears and eyes at the correct places and you will find that you are able to tell when the girl is more receptive of your suggestion to bonk.

4) Lie detection
This is not a James Bond movie or some interrogation room scene. But one must get a feel of how a lie works in order to recognise it. For this subtle questioning techniques and observation of body language is important. However if you ASSUME that everything a girl says is a lie (except when she says she is not going to have sex with you) you are probably on the safer side. Since lies are the actual tools that manipulative girls use it is safer to know how and why it works than not. You will also know how to cover up your lies and make it the truth for them.

To be continued

[GL-Roamer]

Skills that get you the Kills (Part 2)

5) Negotiation
This one has to do with getting what you want. It is the same as why some people get a YES for a request and some people get a NO for the same request. Girls are always expecting that guys will negotiate with them (believe me they have an arsenal of counter attacks) whenever there is a request (from either side) but unfortunately many guys have already been too blinded (by imagined love) and so they give in to every request without knowing that it is possible to reduce the cost. And yes TANTRUMS are a negotiating tool, as they instil fear in the guys that the girl may not bonk with them if they are angry. This skill also has to do with dealing with threats either financial or emotional. This one gets you the ‘OK lets go bonk’ reply from the girl.

6) Emotional Control (EQ)
I think this is very important because emotions will get u into the heat of things in no time. I will break this into 3 parts.

6.1 - Handling situations
If you think back, have you ever scolded someone just because you think tat person said something that you think is offensive? But the fact is ‘does the other person knows it is offensive to you?’ Another part is, are you able to go on in the face of difficulty. Many people will think that they are tough (they certainly are) but the catch is ‘they are only tough in certain situations where they FEEL (no solid evidence) they are well prepared enough to handle it’. Suppose a girl say ‘hey your dick is small I have seen bigger ones’ and laughs hysterically, are you going to be offended? Or are you going to say ‘even with this small dick I can give you a hell of a time, wana try?’. Managing your emotions and your REACTION to other people’s emotions are important here. A girl throws a tantrum, how are you going to react? OR ‘WHAT’ is the most productive reaction you can give her to cushion any negative situation that might arise. There are obviously many uses in this aspect. Can be used to get in and out of a relationship.

6.2 - Overcoming difficulties
Another aspect of this is ‘how fast can you get over a setback?’ are you able to move on in 1 or 2 days time or do you stay there and rot? This requires a lot of emotional toughness eg: FORTITUDE (there have been cases of ‘tough’ guys being reduced to a baby when they meet with a severe setback). Are you able to suck it up n keep moving?

6.3 - Emotional Control (especially in the process of bonking)
Lastly when guys are in the process of bonking they lose their minds and their emotions take over and they may reveal some secrets that they usually don’t share like the type of girl that they like and such. Girls when they hear all these (they are usually wide awake during sex, despite all the moaning), when will silently tweak their behaviour or dressing to your fantasy and wall you inside your fantasy so that you can’t tell whats going on outside your dream world. This is also important in after-sex talks, when you are all hugging and feeling on top of the world, you may let slip some stuff that is probably best kept as secret, you will be surprised how much a girl can dig out from you from the after-sex talks.

7) Seduction
I would like to stress that finding out and understanding about seduction is not for using it as a vengeance tool or to get free sex (cheaper sex maybe). But to know which part of seduction will weaken your defences and how can you avoid that. The girls will definitely have to know some or more about this topic (believe me they really work hard at finding out by reading or talking to friends) if they want to get guys and the reason why guys lose out is because many are not well informed on this topic. One obvious example of this is that every girl knows that her breasts (good looking ones) make guys horny but guys only know how to react to the sight of breasts and not know the concept behind it. Thus girls have understood the visual concept of seduction and they apply it by getting sexier clothes, push-up bras and using cosmetics. Definitely mastering that skill and applying it in the right ways will bring you a long way out and into many girls’ pussies.

8) Humility
Guys are not GOD so please learn to be humble. This is a skill because it needs time and patience to find out information (on how to control egos) and reflect. Everyone knows this fact but not many know how to control their egos. I never dare say I know everything so I tend to stay on the safer side of things. I cheong but I restrict myself to the legal houses only, pay, screw and get out. Lust and wallet are satisfied, meeting both bodily and financial goals. I stay away from KTVs, HCs, TNs and FLs (knowing that these can be troublesome).


FINALLY this last one is something some people might find a bit amusing or even ridiculous, but I recommend reading about it. Yes please go ahead and have a good laugh.

9) HOW DO COSMETICS WORK?
Knowing this is as good as knowing how a girl prepares to deceive you (the behind the scenes preparation) and how she creates the illusion of having the features that you like. Big sparkling eyes, full lips, long flowing hair or cute face etc. It is also part of understanding the visual aspect of seduction.


Conclusion
There are other complimentary skills as well but I will not list them here as they are of lesser importance. I certainly hope that the above information will be of help and will improve the lives of all the bros here. Knowledge resources are easily available nowadays; the internet, libraries, book stores and forums so reading up more is definitely much easier, just an hour a day will give you much info.

Good luck and be safe.

[ilovelife.now]

Bro you are perfect!
Golden words of wisdom you have shared herewith.. must be included in newbies section also.

Let me up u once I get more points.

[jon2000sg]

Originally Posted by GL-Roamer

9) HOW DO COSMETICS WORK?
Knowing this is as good as knowing how a girl prepares to deceive you (the behind the scenes preparation) and how she creates the illusion of having the features that you like. Big sparkling eyes, full lips, long flowing hair or cute face etc. It is also part of understanding the visual aspect of seduction.

this is very true, I know one mei mei whom still in contact currently.
the first time I bonk her, I can give her a 8.5/10 on her looks.

this MM has been asking me to marry her and til now she is still toying the idea of marriage to get the Singapore International Passport.

there was once when she remove her make up for breakfast -OMG ???!!!
looks - 6/10 !!! WTF ??? I am blinded ? I see a ghost !

Cosmetics can be very very deceiving.

[simple2kee]

TS, im impressed..... by ur writing skill. will ur writing Skill that get me the Kills? salute!
will up u soon.

[NewandLost]

Braddash, I beleive when you are Kced you actually forget your worth in the dating market and mating pool. These gals should be happy to have you (educated SG guy with good job and background etc.) yet you get in a situation of twisted value and do all these things for her only to be fooled and not realize it until its over.

[GL-Roamer]

Originally Posted by markkeef

maybe you can flesh out (pun intended) your points with some personal experiences.

cos I noticed it is written in an objective and detached voice, which is good in itself.

but personal stories can move an audience more easily, whether succcess or failure ones, and it stays with them, cos people remember not just with their minds but also their hearts.

Hi Bro Markkeef

I definitely agree with you that personal stories can move the audience more easily. I was trying to think back of an example of a KC situation but sad to say (for purposes of teaching) I have never been KC-ed before neither been in a situation where a KC attack is nearby. So I hope the bros here will forgive me if there is a lack of personal stories.

This is because I follow the above principles strictly and limit myself to the legal houses only. In fact if any bros here have personal stories to share, pls feel free to share so that other bros can see the relationship between what I have written and what has happened and hopefully learn much from it.

Thank you
GL-Roamer

[GL-Roamer]

In case if any bros are wondering how come I can write this guide and not have any personal stories to tell. Well I must say I have read enough of disheartening stories from newspapers and this forum and I am also more careful person by nature so after reading all those stories I went on to do heavy research and reading from various sources (having a few bonks in between ) on this topic.

Which is the reason why I can post this guide today. Which I hope all bros who have read it will share with their bros or introduce them to read it (especially newbies to the commercial sex world and youngsters who are starting to have girlfriends).

Thank you

GL-Roamer

[jon2000sg]

I was KC many times and I liked to share my stories to bros
esp. newbies.

Let me recall and sit down to write it on MS Word before posting them.

[tuxedosam]

whoa...this thread sure is an interesting read. although i may not necessarily agree with ALL of the TS's assumptions and beliefs, it's still an interesting and enlightening treatise. hahaha, certainly something entertaining in a different sorta way to the threads about the hidden cultural meaning of the rep system or those within which a mass-zap raiding party is being assembled...or the de rigeur sob stories one might encounter in this section...all of which are, dun get me wrong, delightfully compelling in their own way.

i guess it's not particularly relevant to me as i dun really fall into the target group, which the good bro defined with a series of caveats. for me, the 'relationship' one shares with a commercial sex worker ends when the appointment in question ends. i dun see why there is a need to extend it beyond that point (even if RTFs are concerned). if i do want a relationship, i'd simply go somewhere else. makes common cultural and social sense to me, no? and even if i wanna look for a short- to mid-term no-frills, less-strings-attached sorta FB, i personally think the last place to start hunting one down is through the realm of commercial sex. as for making GFs or pseudo-GFs outta whores, the thought has never once ever crossed my mind. for one, i've yet to come across a single prostitute whom i think actually share a similar enough communicative wavelength with myself. and i mean thais, vietnamese, pinoys, russians, and of course, those PRC nationals, as well as malaysians or even 'high-class' locals. aiyoh, can't even chitchat normally, how to have a relationship leh? anyhow, i dun really get all that being a 'player' stuff...engaging in the thrill of the 'chase', the projection of a sense of 'power' and all those silly mind games etc. etc. guess that's why i never really comprehended the KTV scene, for example...a bit pointless and full of sidetracking if the aim is simply sex, no? never mind, i dun think i will ever quite understand. but to each, his (or her) own la. i dun need a whore to massage my ego. and i dun see the need to play 'games' or indulge in mindfucking just to land a discount or free fuck (at least with someone i have no interest with otherwise), or in order to be served with faked affection and exaggerated longing. it's all just a bloody show, right? why would anyone put up with the baggage, even if it's only a temporary arrangement? but i know there's a market for such a thing. and hence the sorta typical discourse generated in this section of SBF. hahaha, i know an ex-samster, for example, who has since graduated to something 'bigger'. he doesn't need to pay for sex anymore because now he just talks them up (he targets mainly those borderline flesh trade workers working in those dodgy singer-dancer sorta bar-type places) and they somehow land in his lap. he's a good lad and a great buddy and he has tried to share with me his side of the story, even if i dun quite get the entire psychology of it. in a sense, i wish i can be kinda more like him too, but i just can't be bothered la. life is complicated enough for me...why add to it for three minutes of so-called 'fun'? i guess some things are not for everyone. however, it all seems to work for him and that's good enough. he's a consummate player though. he never allows himself to be bewitched emotionally. and while i do know that he has ended up hurting quite a few of these sluts, most of them do bounce back almost immediately. speaks volumes, eh?

by the way, anyone knows what the exact origins of the term 'KC' are? i'm not very sure what it stands for though the meaning of the term is surmised easily and directly enough. is this a term unique to SBF? i've never encountered it anywhere else in cyberspace or real life. haha, just wondering...sorry for being so ignorant.

anyway, on a more generalised ground, i think the TS's observations are also relevant for a lot of relationships that may not necessarily have anything to do with harlots and tarts. not that i'm really well-acquainted personally with relationships built on those sorta dynamics...but they exist nonetheless and are in fact very common. just open your eyes. look at all those trophy wives for starters. hmph, while i may not have been cheated or manipulated by a courtesan of any shade or hue, i have indeed had my heart thoroughly broken and my life casually trampled on by a woman for whom the words mendacious, manipulative, cruel, fickle, untruthful and a whole ugly lot more seem to have been conceived precisely for. ahhhhhh, the things we do in the name of love, or well, what we take to be an approximation of 'love', at least. of course the circumstances are wildly different...but while i do not quite understand this fixation with whores, i can definitely identify and commiserate with the aching hearts of bros (and siatahs too? bwahaha).

anyway, thanks and cheers to the TS for sharing. looking forward to more installments.

[longwinter]

Originally Posted by jon2000sg

I was KC many times and I liked to share my stories to bros
esp. newbies.

Let me recall and sit down to write it on MS Word before posting them.

yea, there is nothing to be ashamed abt it to share....awaiting for ur stories, bro jon..

[warbird]

Hi bro GL-Roamer,

Thx for sharing! This is certainly one of the best guides on the subject that I hv read.

[/QUOTE] 12) Girls are illusionists

Reason: Do not look at the make up on her face, imagine her face without the make up (she is not that pretty anymore), her height without high heels (not so tall and slim?) and her face without color (very plain?). Usually once you find her not so pretty you will not get so turned on. Looking up close may also help as it helps you spot flaws and make you less horny.[/QUOTE]

Originally Posted by jon2000sg

this is very true, I know one mei mei whom still in contact currently.
the first time I bonk her, I can give her a 8.5/10 on her looks.

this MM has been asking me to marry her and til now she is still toying the idea of marriage to get the Singapore International Passport.

there was once when she remove her make up for breakfast -OMG ???!!!
looks - 6/10 !!! WTF ??? I am blinded ? I see a ghost !

Cosmetics can be very very deceiving.

Yes, gers are illusionists, especially those PRC MMs working at KTVs.

There is a KTV ger who doesn't like to meet me during the day n I know the reason.

When I met her at KTVs or elsewhere at night, she was stunningly beautiful w/ her cleaver makeup, sexy dress n high heels. Her face was smooth, fair n creamy, w/o any visible blemishes. I would rate her a solid 9. Once she reluctantly met me in early afternoon n we headed to a hotel. She only had light makeup n I could see a few small moles on her face n some pimples on the forehead. Her face was darker n somewhat sallow. My rating dropped to 7.5! Certainly lower if no makeup at all. She could sense my slight disappointment n now will not want to see me during the day!

Dun be fooled, bro.

Goodnight!

[jon2000sg]

Originally Posted by longwinter

yea, there is nothing to be ashamed abt it to share....awaiting for ur stories, bro jon..

I shall start a thread to post my KC stories with pics included.