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Re: I Cannot Believe My Eyes

We don't have the full story, so I think it is best dont be judgmental. Some of our remarks can be very hurting to his parents. Let's show respect to them. They are already grieving..so we should not make it worst.
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We don't have the full story, so I think it is best dont be judgmental. Some of our remarks can be very hurting to his parents. Let's show respect to them. They are already grieving..so we should not make it worst.
Bro IGrew, dun think there anything wrong in brudders here discussing abt such issues & giving their own remarks... This is open forum where every samsters can have their own opinion or to be precise this is a "sex forum" where ppl share info... As long as the TS start the thread at the appropriate place... There should be no issues... Just a passerby with 一角 rmb worth of comment...
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Re: I Cannot Believe My Eyes

In order for truthfulness to be viewed, bros have to be judgemental in the respect of standpoint. From what I see, it is how words are put across and so far all the bros say it out quite objectively, addressing trend and characters rather than the poor fellow who is now dead becos he was not taught to control his emotions.

A smart person, to be frank, is also smart in handling emotions. Otherwise the brain is likely to be used for very mechanically work, like studying. The thought process simply cannot handle irrational things like relationships.

From a judgemental view from aku, fellow never suffer defeat in his life, being throw into the pits where all are wanting to win trophies of academic excellence, he emerged victorious many times until all that he achieved became all that he had in his life. For 25 years he was king in his own world of family, friends and schoolmates. Little did he know, or even understand why he could not win a simple girl who may not even be on par with a 'normal sg girl'. A close friend got the girl as well, double whammy effect, he lost his most beloved and his most trusted. This probably flipped him becos these 2 person were probably the only 2 personal friends in his life.

See the situation where he killed himself. There must be a confrontation between the 3, childhood friend told him he got the girl, the girl he liked told him to stay away from now on, he was helpless and knew that from then on, he would be alone. In relationship, there are no compromise, they made up their mind to exclude you, no such thing as give you GFE a bit first, girlfriend means girlfriend to a fellow only. So he had no room for his pleads to be realised, no space of negotiation between him and the girl he liked. I guess in the end he threatened, saying things like if you guys still dun listen to me and give me a chance, I'll prove my sincerity, I'll prove I love you more, I'll prove that with the only thing I have, my life. Having no room given, he did the only thing he could do, he went and prove it.

The defeat is not to his pal, not his girl. The scholar had finally lost to himself. That's the part which is the most unbearable.
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Old 07-03-2009, 12:07 PM
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Re: I Cannot Believe My Eyes

With all condolences to the deceased family....a bright young man just gone like that.
The PRC gal so-so in looks only. I can find better ones in ZH/CP. Maybe if he comes inside SBF, he won't be so devastated over losing a gal, PRC somemore.

There are really tonnes of gals out there (look Global!!), why grief over a single one?
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We don't have the full story, so I think it is best dont be judgmental. Some of our remarks can be very hurting to his parents. Let's show respect to them. They are already grieving..so we should not make it worst.
Bro, this thread is to discuss why such a bright young man with high IO but low EQ...We are not condeming him or wat, btw, his parents will not know unless you tell them to come in this forum, this thread is also good for scholars to be or living scholars to wake them up..
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Re: I Cannot Believe My Eyes

Many scholars move into the work-life with only one skill: how to do well in exams. They only know how to follow rules and suffer from the No U-turn syndrome - or NUTS," In such an environment, they would consider it easy to tackle problems if they were given a set of rules and guidelines to work with They are reluctant to try out new ideas but stick to "safe" policies - on autopilot mode.

They all afraid to make mistakes and take risks when business is all about having a broad vision and taking risks. Unfortunately, the new economy is constantly evolving and competing on free-flowing ideas. Being nimble is the only way to survive, but many at times, scholars don't have the ability to respond and adapt to changing situations. They tend to involve themselves in too much detail and are afraid to make mistakes.

An example: One guy, a scholar with an impressive list of paper qualifications, used to hand me reports of at least 10 pages on anything I wanted. In turn, he demanded reports of at least 20 pages from his subordinates. So he had piles of reports on his table and when I asked him if he has time to read all these reports, he replied that he did not.He was so bogged down reading reports that he had no time to deal with the real business. Of course, needless to say, He did not last long.
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A prob that our govt already is trying to address in changing the ways our next generation is being educated.
People in my generation and after all suffer from the "READ DEAD BOOK" syndrome........
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Re: I Cannot Believe My Eyes

This whole incident is going to weigh on the girl and her boyfriend for the rest of their lives. Having seen the suicide taken place right in front of their eyes, I doubt seriously the relationship is going to last long.

May he rest in peace, and hope both the deceased family and the couple find their ways to recovery.
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Re: I Cannot Believe My Eyes

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It is sad to see a bright young spark take his own life. In Sg, our pursuit of excellence has caused our young to be very "book smart" but not very "life smart". It is actually a very silly thing to take one's own life for love or because of love. If you are dumped by someone, then it is up to you to prove that he or she has made the wrong decision. Make yourself better, make yourself stronger and then thank him or her for waking you up and making you change for the better. Not kill yourself... who will pity you? And imagine how much grief you will cause your family?

And to kill yourself for a PRC??? Oh my goodness! I am not slamming all PRC's but then they are more "realistic" than we can imagine. They will choose someone who is either better looking or has a better future prospect or has more money... So if this young man lost out to his friend... It is of course painful... but if he had taken the time to sit back and think, it would have been a good chance to better himself. For me, I will personally not invest very much in a PRC because it will be them who have to prove their love for me and not the other way around. If they do not do so, there are many more millions of pretty sweet young PRC around. There are so many of them... so why die over one?

I just came back from a business trip to China and my counterpart was a single, very pretty and well edcuated lady. She even spent 4 years in America studying... And no matter how many times she said she was single... I was not interested. I told her I had a wife and that was it... In the game of love, it is like war... But then if it is like war... the one who gives up soonest or in this case kills himself is declaring that he has lost without even trying... Death does not help anything or make things better. But it sure as hell makes the life of those living and loving you so much worse. For the PRC and his friend, perhaps they will mourn his passing for a while... But I doubt if it will stop them from being together and or make them too miserable for too long...

My condolences to the young chap and family.

Don't be too quick to unleash your "book smart" but not very "life smart" shit!

Just because a well-educated China girl is throwing herself at you and you proudly proclaim to the whole world that you have the "smartness" to reject her doesn't bear any connection to what the whole issue about.

In other words, keep all your bullshits to yourself.
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An example: One guy, a scholar with an impressive list of paper qualifications, used to hand me reports of at least 10 pages on anything I wanted. In turn, he demanded reports of at least 20 pages from his subordinates. So he had piles of reports on his table and when I asked him if he has time to read all these reports, he replied that he did not.He was so bogged down reading reports that he had no time to deal with the real business. Of course, needless to say, He did not last long.
No good for the business world, but perfect candidate in the civil sector.....Our gov ADORES these scholars.
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答对了
Our Govt loves BOOK SMART n not STREET SMART candidates.........
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Don't be too quick to unleash your "book smart" but not very "life smart" shit!

Just because a well-educated China girl is throwing herself at you and you proudly proclaim to the whole world that you have the "smartness" to reject her doesn't bear any connection to what the whole issue about.

In other words, keep all your bullshits to yourself.
Bro,

This is a public forum and everyone is free to say what they feel to a certain extent. Perhaps you are a scholar and also very street smart.. Good for you lor. One man's meat is another man's poison, so my b*llsh*t may be a lesson for someone else. So what is your problem? I already said I was not trying to slam all PRC, but I am being careful, I have my right to be careful right? If you feel so strongly about being book smart and street smart, then I am happy for you lor. If you feel that you want to support PRC gals, then also good luck to you lor... Why blast people for saying their views? Not happy, just don't read lor....
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Take it easy people. This is an open forum where everyone is free to talk about anything so long as it doesn't go overboard.

I have to admit though, the sg education system is only good at producing top end people who only knows how to score in exams, have high or good IQ but have low or really poor EQ. So when these people cannot get into the civil service and goes into the real world (MNCs or private sectors) they will suffer...
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This whole debate reminds me of my 1st year in Uni when i was in monash!
I literally memorized the whole book for the exam and FAILED!
Quote the lecturer: Dun tell me what's in the book, notice the author????? I wrote the book.
Tell me your tots, ur arguments your views......got a re-sit and had to live with a grade lower........
Just like our glorious investment in PRC land that alot of our tax payer's money was invested by a book smart but conned by a street smart.......that's a big blow and reminder to all of us.
Now, if you all had the chance to visit that so called place, it'll be perfect to send our SAF troops there to train FIBUA hahahaha
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Yes, the reliance on scholars is based on the assumption that academic achievement is the best criterion for good political leadership, like in imperial China. The belief is to get the top graduates from university, pay them premium rates, and they will deliver, to a certain extent it had worked well in the past. However, the rationale then - and now - remains this: Until a better system of identifying young talent surfaces, academic achievement is still the most effective.....

We have created for ourselves a national mindset of compliance and obedience, giving rise to a generation of "play safe" who lack initiative and enterprise. The environment of a salaries and career safety discourages risk-taking initiatives. In politics, it often spawned a new breed of "autopilot" technocrats who are content to follow past policies rather than risk entering visionary ventures.

Looking back at history, Great national leaders, it is said, are often thrown up by the chaos of history, amidst mass suffering and national dangers, not in times of wealth and peace. These include such historical figures as Abraham Lincoln, Mahatma Gandhi, Mao Zedong and Winston Churchill, all of whom achieved greatness because of chaos. Few rich modern societies are known to have produced wise, visionary leaders, so can we, operating its scholarship government system, succeed in disproving this? Only time will tell….

Having said, all these, I do love my Country, Singapore and will sacrifice my life in defending this great tiny nation…So Say We All !!!!
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