Tipping

[MCPeachBlossom]

Originally Posted by Samurai69

Tip or not upto individual and their financial. If tip $50 and visit every week, it will be like $800 per month. What is SG median income? Let say $6k, that will be 16% of your net income.
But tip and RTF sure will have diff treatment. To me, as long the WL provide the minimum service, i will tip her $20, who knows next time i will meet her again, and hope her service will improve.

I agree with your first point. If you have no money like bronze cheebye, or if you helmsey who wants to broadcast that no many how many times he recieves "fantastic" service from a WL, he NEVER tips, this is your right. But please spare the crap excuses about market rate ans robert and so on. No money that's all.

Your second point about medium salary is incomplete. Why guess? The medium salary in 2017 is around $4300. But I can't see how this is of much relevance unless you want to compare yourself with fresh poly grads and self confessed roadsweepers.

But let me complete the point for you. The medium salary in 2007, some 10yrs ago, was $2300 or so. The rate in GL has not changed for 30yrs. So how?

[klss]

I guess WL should get around $150 per session to keep the standard.

Now they get $80.

[Stimsia]

Originally Posted by MCPeachBlossom

I agree with your first point. If you have no money like bronze cheebye, or if you helmsey who wants to broadcast that no many how many times he recieves "fantastic" service from a WL, he NEVER tips, this is your right. But please spare the crap excuses about market rate ans robert and so on. No money that's all.

Your second point about medium salary is incomplete. Why guess? The medium salary in 2017 is around $4300. But I can't see how this is of much relevance unless you want to compare yourself with fresh poly grads and self confessed roadsweepers.

But let me complete the point for you. The medium salary in 2007, some 10yrs ago, was $2300 or so. The rate in GL has not changed for 30yrs. So how?

What was RMB SGD exchange rate 30 years back?
Median salary is blown upwards by top 10 percentile who earns in the 100 of thousands

Market demand and supply is always there... if the set price is raised... there may be less GL chiongsters and the problem become cyclic....

and if you do not know china mkt dun talk rot... agreeably china has a much higher returns but at the expense of being caught which may shortlived the WL earnings

GL is legalised and thats what some WL said to avoid the risk of up the lorry....

There are angpai WL ... do they get tips often.... they are angpai because they rendered good service with or without tips...

Again where some super crazy rich asians have the $$ to throw... so be it.... nobody stopping them....

Robert is only when you get chopped but tips is a willing gesture so i dun find any robert carrot in tipping....

What i dun understand is why so hard up on tipping as though your life depend on it

Let the willing party tip and unwilling party not tip....the consequence is for them to bear ... if no tip still get good service so be it....

sometimes good service come not neccessarily from monetary perspective...maybe the bros are tall dark and handsome.... maybe the chemistry is there.... if you belive tipping get better service... go on and tip but should not demand others to follow....

[ejectjoy]

Originally Posted by Stimsia

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Again where some super crazy rich asians have the $$ to throw... so be it.... nobody stopping them....

Robert is only when you get chopped but tips is a willing gesture so i dun find any robert carrot in tipping....

What i dun understand is why so hard up on tipping as though your life depend on it

Let the willing party tip and unwilling party not tip....the consequence is for them to bear ... if no tip still get good service so be it....

sometimes good service come not neccessarily from monetary perspective...maybe the bros are tall dark and handsome.... maybe the chemistry is there.... if you belive tipping get better service... go on and tip but should not demand others to follow....

Agree with you totally here.

(During my years of bonking in GL, I had tipped only a handful of WLs for utmost effort to please me, give me a very special and soothing experience when I was clearly tired or visits during CNY period.)

[leopard_A4]

Sharing my experience of tipping also get zap...

[MCPeachBlossom]

Originally Posted by Stimsia

What was RMB SGD exchange rate 30 years back?
Median salary is blown upwards by top 10 percentile who earns in the 100 of thousands

Market demand and supply is always there... if the set price is raised... there may be less GL chiongsters and the problem become cyclic....

and if you do not know china mkt dun talk rot... agreeably china has a much higher returns but at the expense of being caught which may shortlived the WL earnings

GL is legalised and thats what some WL said to avoid the risk of up the lorry....

There are angpai WL ... do they get tips often.... they are angpai because they rendered good service with or without tips...

Again where some super crazy rich asians have the $$ to throw... so be it.... nobody stopping them....

Robert is only when you get chopped but tips is a willing gesture so i dun find any robert carrot in tipping....

What i dun understand is why so hard up on tipping as though your life depend on it

Let the willing party tip and unwilling party not tip....the consequence is for them to bear ... if no tip still get good service so be it....

sometimes good service come not neccessarily from monetary perspective...maybe the bros are tall dark and handsome.... maybe the chemistry is there.... if you belive tipping get better service... go on and tip but should not demand others to follow....

You AGREE with that the China market is higher but ask me not to talk rot about China market. Friend, you wake up already? What the fuck are you saying? They scared up lorry ah? A fucker, the whole world only got Spore and China work? Did you see I said "other related" jobs. Eg. KTV.

I didn't demand anyone to follow. I said if the industry cannot sustain because the customers cannot afford, so be it. If you're fucking god smack blind, get a pair of glasses and learn to read properly.

You mean the the top 10% didn't raise the medium income in 2007 and 1997? What feihua are you talking? Did you read the part that I asked what is the relevance of bringing in medium income? Don't fucking come and talk cock to someone who actually pays salaries hor. Nowadays fresh ITE already over $2000. What top 10% you talking?

Your income didn't go up doesn't mean others income didn't go up.

[MCPeachBlossom]

Originally Posted by ejectjoy

Agree with you totally here.

(During my years of bonking in GL, I had tipped only a handful of WLs for utmost effort to please me, give me a very special and soothing experience when I was clearly tired or visits during CNY period.)

Yah that's why they not coming anymore. I guess you guys live in a world where you don't understand what is market rate and are blind to the supply drying up.

[penetratorkia]

Originally Posted by Greendale7

Hello bros,
I'm curious how common tipping is after the service provided?

If you have good service and want to return to her then it could be better for RTF but I'm curious on what the WL's expect in terms of tipping? Maybe, it's different if it's cat50 and cat150.

hmm.. tipping doesn't ensure you better service on your next visit bro
they got so many customer each day, how to rmb u
Honestly, u just have to be nice and reasonable to them, and they will repay u back with good service. I don't encourage tipping since it kinda spoil market

There's once I wna tip a FL at WH20 LISA and she refused to take, she said to visit her more often can liao
I was quite touch by her work attitude, will rtf for this type of FLs

[Stimsia]

Originally Posted by penetratorkia

hmm.. tipping doesn't ensure you better service on your next visit bro
they got so many customer each day, how to rmb u
Honestly, u just have to be nice and reasonable to them, and they will repay u back with good service. I don't encourage tipping since it kinda spoil market

There's once I wna tip a FL at WH20 LISA and she refused to take, she said to visit her more often can liao
I was quite touch by her work attitude, will rtf for this type of FLs

Agreed.... money doesnt buy everything..... include good service lol

there was once a yoyo@2062 who provide top notch service all the time, really missed her. No tipping required.

[Stimsia]

Originally Posted by MCPeachBlossom

Yah that's why they not coming anymore. I guess you guys live in a world where you don't understand what is market rate and are blind to the supply drying up.

I go to the house. OKT asked for 50 80 100 120 150 i paid accordingly. The WL do her job. That is market rate.

No malaysians... no problem... come the PRC....
No PRC no problem come the viet....

Indeed as china develop, its citizens get better off and less girl go into this trade... we should be happy for them

[Samurai69]

Agreed with a bro said, tipping is on own willingness, tip dont mean is carrot head or spoil market. As it happen between the customer and WL. Some bro also calculated that a WL can make 400k to 500k if stay here for 2 years. This money could be a sum that they dont make in their whole life if work as clerk back in China. But they also sacrifice their dignity and sometime got to serve those demand alot, stink and rough customer.
So if one want to tip, tip within his mean. Life getting tough ahead, got to take care our own financial well before being generous.

[MCPeachBlossom]

Originally Posted by Stimsia

I go to the house. OKT asked for 50 80 100 120 150 i paid accordingly. The WL do her job. That is market rate.

Hi bo takchek. LOL. Market rate is the price set by a FREE market of goods and services. The prices that the OKT gives you is a price set by anti-vice. It is NOT a FREE market of goods and services. Ie. It is not decided by the market but by govt.

So hor, when you go to the polyclinic, take bus or buy first time HDB, the price you pay is interfered by govt. It is NOT market rate. Ah Hia, so old already still don't know?

Please don't use economic terms that you don't understand. If you want to talk bird and define 'market rate' according to whatever you like, you talk to your own asshole or find gina to play with. You can find bronze cheebye kia, that one confirm gina brain.

[MCPeachBlossom]

Originally Posted by Stimsia

there WAS ONCE a yoyo@2062 who provide top notch service all the time, really MISSED her. No tipping required.

Is that why you can't find even one Yoyo around these days and miss her so much?

Let me try to explain to you as how I would talk to a baby.

If what you say is true, tipping is not required and you pay market rate, the industry should be stable and Yoyos should be readily available.

The fact that houses are closing down and supply has dried up indicates that customers like you are not paying market rate and PRICED OUT OF THE MARKET. So enjoy whatever scraps you can find while it lasts.

So what you say is true in there being no problem, you go fuck Vietnam or go for $60 PRC whatever.

[Fat Fatt]

Originally Posted by MCPeachBlossom

Is that why you can't find even one Yoyo around these days and miss her so much?

Let me try to explain to you as how I would talk to a baby.

If what you say is true, tipping is not required and you pay market rate, the industry should be stable and Yoyos should be readily available.

The fact that houses are closing down and supply has dried up indicates that customers like you are not paying market rate and PRICED OUT OF THE MARKET. So enjoy whatever scraps you can find while it lasts.

So what you say is true in there being no problem, you go fuck Vietnam or go for $60 PRC whatever.

Bro, though there is some truth in your logic, there is also the other view.

There isn’t just enough customers in GL, to pay the basic $150. Not mentioning about tips. The houses brought girls in but the customers did not spread out or you can say are focus in a few houses. Usually if all Cheongsters go into these few select houses, they will burst and overspill. But it seems very quiet.
If there is no customer paying 150, tips is just a moot point.
Not sure is it the economy or the market or more difficult to make money now, people has less dispensable cash.

[MCPeachBlossom]

Originally Posted by Fat Fatt

Bro, though there is some truth in your logic, there is also the other view.

There isn’t just enough customers in GL, to pay the basic $150. Not mentioning about tips. The houses brought girls in but the customers did not spread out or you can say are focus in a few houses. Usually if all Cheongsters go into these few select houses, they will burst and overspill. But it seems very quiet.
If there is no customer paying 150, tips is just a moot point.
Not sure is it the economy or the market or more difficult to make money now, people has less dispensable cash.

CAT150 used to be premium. Many carrotheads to sustain the industry. Those customers have moved on with the times, myself included. I used to pay less than $200 for FL. Now is almost $300. Normal inflation. CAT150 for me not much interest, looks and age the standard is not there.

Now CAT150 is budget. The remaining customers do not have the financial ability to sustain. CAT150 being absorbed into CAT80 AND CAT50 becauae the spending power of the customers is about that standard. Nothing much to do with the economy which is not good and not bad. Actually picking up since this year.

Another way to look at market rate is to take out $150 and see what you can buy with it in Spore. I believe you tried FL before. At $150, for FL no matter Thai or PRC or what...the standard is shit. This is the real market rate.

Too long to explain everything going on but this is the general picture.