Those with Fuck Buddies, Little 3s 小三, Friends with benefits fall in....

[Shadow_warrior]

Once again for all the ladies who think only men look for flings, ONS, WL/FL at the drop of a hat

it would behooves them to read these articles

https://sg.yahoo.com/news/man-sent-o...075127892.html

https://sg.yahoo.com/news/businessma...114329980.html

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapo...shed-by-hitman

women cheat big time. they cheat on their sugar daddies, they cheat on their husbands, they cheat on their bfs

well then again, the same can be said about men, but we can all drop the subject on who the victims are.

[Shadow_warrior]

On 8 April 2016, Audrey Chen Ying Fang was spending time with her boyfriend in her condominium apartment – which had been paid for by another lover – when two men showed up at the entrance of her bedroom.

One of the men told the 26-year-old’s boyfriend, 33-year-old Joshua Koh Kian Yong, “I was sent here to kill you.”

The man then began assaulting Koh, fracturing his nose and bruising his eyes, while the other man sat on Chen’s couch and played with her dog.

These were some of the details shared by Chen, who took stand on Tuesday (15 May) to testify against her former lover, 54-year-old logistics firm director Lim Hong Liang, during the first day of his trial.

Lim, who is married, stands accused of asking his nephew, 25-year-old Ron Lim De Mai, to arrange for Koh to be beaten up for dating Chen – who was Lim’s mistress at the time.

Lim, who is married, is contesting one count of engaging in a conspiracy with Ong Hock Chye, Ron and three others to voluntarily cause grievous hurt to Koh with a weapon on 30 April 2016 at Townshend Road. The attack, which saw Koh being slashed in the face, left Kok permanently disfigured.

Ong, 47, is also standing trial for one count of engaging in a conspiracy with Lim, Ron and three others to voluntarily cause grievous hurt to Koh with a weapon on the same day. While Lim is represented by a team of four lawyers – senior counsel N Sreenivasan along with Choo Si Sen, P O Ram and Partheban Pandoyan – Ong is unrepresented.

The events of 8 April 2016 are not part of the charges being contested by Lim and Ong.

Relationship timeline

Lim and Chen began seeing each other in 2014. In March 2016, while still in a relationship with Lim, Chen also began dating Koh.

According to Chen, she and Koh officially became an item on 7 April 2016 and are still dating. Lim became upset after finding out about Chen’s relationship with Koh in April 2016.

A day after Chen spent the night at Koh’s home, Lim removed her branded bags and accessories, telling Chen said that she would get the items back only on the condition that she stopped seeing Koh.

This did not deter Chen, however, who brought Koh to the apartment she shared with Lim on 8 April. At the time, Lim was in China for medical reasons.

Chen, an unemployed former beauty pageant winner, said that on the day, she had arranged with Lim’s son – who was not named in court – to collect some money from the apartment. Before the son arrived, she asked Koh to step out of the apartment. Koh returned after the son had left.

A few hours later, the two were hanging out in the apartment when Chen said she heard a gate open. “Within seconds two guys appeared at the entrance of the bedroom,” she said.

While she could not recognise them during the incident, Chen later identified the two men as Ron and Lim’s son.

Ron asked Koh to identify himself but before Koh could reply, Ron began punching and kicking him, claiming that he had been sent to kill Koh, said Chen.

The alleged attack, which left blood on the apartment’s floor and wall, lasted 10 to 15 minutes. While initially watching the assault, Lim’s son later sat on the couch to play with Chen’s dog. Koh, who did not retaliate, had his nose fractured, said Chen. After some time, Ron stopped his assault and told Chen to take Koh to the hospital.

On the same day, Lim sent Chen WhatsApp voice messages in Mandarin berating her for her conduct. The voice messages, which were played in court, said, “Do you think its correct to do it. When I go overseas, you bring a man home to sleep”; “I provided you with cash, whatever you want”; and “do some reflection, from the way I treat you, I accommodate all your demands, is what you do right”.

The incident took place just three weeks before Koh was again attacked by more thugs allegedly hired by Ron on Lim’s behalf.

Following his uncle’s request, Ron told Ong that Lim wanted Koh’s hands and legs broken for dating Chen and Ong mobilised a few others to help him in the assault.

On 30 April 2016, while Chen and Koh were having supper at Huay Kwang Thia Kitchen along Townshend Road, three men accosted Koh. One began punching him while another slashed Koh’s face. The three then fled the scene in a car and Chen made a police report.

Ron was jailed for 36 months and caned four strokes in March this year for his role in the conspiracy. The four other accomplices involved in the 30 April 2016 assault, apart from Ong, are: Mohammad Amin Aman, 47; Juhari Ab Karim, 34; Nur Atika Fauziana Sherhan, 20; and Nur Muhammad Irwan Mohd Ngat, 29.



Atika has been sentenced to reformative training, while Juhari was jailed 15 months. Irwan was handed a jail term of 14½ years along with 16 strokes of the cane.

Mistress lavished with gifts

Chen said she moved into Lim’s condominium apartment, which had been renovated to her liking with a Hello Kitty theme, in January 2016.

Lim also began to support Chen financially from November 2014 up until Chen cut off contact with him in May 2017. Lim also paid for a domestic helper hired by Chen hired to upkeep the apartment.

The court also heard that Lim had employed Chen as an “admin executive” in November 2014. Even though she did not report to work, he paid her a monthly salary of about $2,000 along with Central Provident Fund contributions of about $900 a month.

In late 2015, Chen also received a white Mercedes Benz bearing a number plate with her birth year – 1991 – from Lim as a gift. At the time, however, Chen was unaware that Lim had the car fitted with a Global Positioning System (GPS) tracking system that could pinpoint her whereabouts.

Thanks to Lim, Chen also came to own 17 branded handbags which ranged in value from $4,000 to $16,000 each along with a number of branded watches. In one of his voice messages to Chen, Lim also said that he had set aside $300,000 for Chen to open a “coffee shop”.

Their relationship soured, however, when Chen began seeing Koh.

Following the 8 April 2016 attack, Chen and Koh went on the run for a few months, checking into various hotels. Lim had by then terminated her credit cards and Chen returned to the condominium in June 2016 after she running out of funds.

Koh was serving a prison sentence at the time and Chen visited the apartment in an attempt to patch things up with Lim.

Lim maintained his innocence with regard to April 2016 attacks on Koh, said Chen. He also continued providing Chen with money even though the cashflow was “no longer as free as before”.

Chen stopped taking cash from Lim in May 2017, though he continued paying the maid’s salary. Chen moved out from the apartment in August 2017.

When asked if she started working after Lim stopped supporting her financially, Chen said no.

“I was used to a comfortable life, I was not used to working, so I took a while to adjust,” she said, adding that she did not regret cutting off ties with Lim.

“I was not unhappy when it stopped in May… I was the one to cut it off. I was tired and sick of this life even though (I was) financially comfortable,” she said.

When asked how she felt towards Lim now, Chen said, “For me I don’t hold any grudge, it’s been two years and everyone has their mistakes.”

“For me I want to move on, I don’t want to keep revisiting this chapter of my life.”

The trial resumes on Wednesday.

[happywoody]

when i was younger and idealistic ...
staying faithful to one woman seemed the right thing to do
it was hard to resist temptation and stopping when i knew things were going further and deeper

but with age and with, i'm not sure if i can call it, wisdom ...
it seems like a man is as faithful as his options

hmmmm .......... open to the floor

[I Love Boobs]

Originally Posted by Siriusam

I was married, had been with my wife for 15 years. Then I left her 2 months short of our 10 year wedding anniversary.

We were parents to two beautiful children, who are in their late teens now, but were only seven and nine years old when I walked out.

I travelled for work, stayed in a different hotel at least three nights a week. That’s how I met Eve*.

We got to know each other over time. We became Facebook friends. We sent messages to each other all day and night. She was also married, also had two kids. We had so much in common, we soon fell in love. I felt like she 'got' me.

This was all during a very trying time in my marriage. I wasn’t happy, I didn’t look forward to going home. My wife had put on weight, we hardly ever spoke, she always looked so miserable.

Little did I realise that I was the reason she was so down and depressed. I didn’t pay her any attention. I took her for granted. I was too busy wishing my life was more exciting, being romanced online, spending all of my free time thinking how I could get out.

I believed she didn’t love me. I convinced myself she never cared about me or my needs and wants and wishes, that all I was was a paycheck.

She spent her free time taking care of us -- our kids, making our suppers, doing out washing, making lunches, doing homework, projects, shuttling kids to sport, taking care of the pets they loved so much, their friends, and had a job of her own on top of it all.

Every time she spoke to me, all I heard was nagging and whining. But she was actually begging for my attention: a weekend away, a date night, a movie -- everything I ended up doing with Eve behind her back and after I left my family.

We argued and fought because we felt unheard by the other. And yet that was all we actually had to do – LISTEN – to each other!

I moved out of home to be with Eve. My now ex-wife got custody of our kids. I saw them every second weekend, the usual 'Dad' set up.

New beginnings

Life was sweet!

Eve and I had an amazing sex life. A connection I believed I never had with my ex. We had a large circle of friends. My family loved her. My kids liked her.

But my ex could never bring herself to meet Eve – she felt betrayed. I hated her even more! She was childish. She was mean. She never cared about me or my happiness. I didn’t care about my ex’s feelings when I posted photos of us on Facebook… I had Eve and a whole new life and it was fantastic!

We were together for about six or seven years but never married – we believed marriage was not our thing.

I believed that after 15 years with my ex, we’d given it all we could and our time together was up, there was nothing we could do to salvage our relationship or marriage. Eve was my future, Eve was who I should have been with all along.

Eventually, no matter how well we got along in the beginning; no matter how well I thought she “got” me; no matter how good the sex was; the “honeymoon” came to an end.

Eve and I started snapping at each other. Little fights here and there. I had a moment of pure realisation one night, at about 2am.

I realised that I missed the woman who created my first home and family. I realised that if I'd treated my ex-wife the way I’d treated Eve, used the hours I spend woo-ing Eve on my ex, she’d have bloomed.

If I’d stopped being negative about her and our relationship to my family and friends they wouldn’t have been so negative to her and she wouldn’t have pulled into herself and shied away.

She became someone I convinced myself I no longer knew or got along with because I never gave her the time and affection and attention she craved and deserved.

I thought I had, but when I got down and really thought about it I never really did. I never really let her in. I had ended my marriage years before with the simple decision that she was no longer who or what I wanted. And I’d convinced my family and friends the same – that she was no good for me!

Regret sets in

But I was wrong. I missed the best years of my kids lives. Missed being a family with them. I let their mother battle with raising them alone. Yes I helped financially, but a man living outside his family has no real idea what the costs are on the single mother. While Eve and I ate steaks on the weekends, my ex-wife was living on egg and toast.

And do you know that she never complained? She never demanded more money out of me. She never stopped me from seeing the kids. Never said no if I changed plans on her at the last minute. She gave up her weekends so that my mother could spend time with her grandchildren. She left me to get on with my life with Eve, even though it must have killed her.

Like any relationship, it had started out good – great in fact – but when it go bad I decided to leave… I walked out and divorced a woman who – and I can only see this now – would have done anything for me. But I’d told myself she wouldn’t or couldn’t.

My ex-wife stayed single for 8 years. She dated but never got involved. Her being single was also a kind of affirmation for me – that no one wanted her – that everything I’d decided she lacked, so did other men… She actually stayed single to focus on our children.

Too late

And then came the day she met Craig. I never thought it would bug me in any way if she got a boyfriend. I thought it would be great! But I was very wrong. I felt hurt. I felt jealous. I even felt angry and maybe betrayed.

She moved in with Craig, along with my kids. She set up a new home. A new family, with my kids… it was a very bitter pill to swallow.

I finally understood how she’d felt all these years. And it felt rotten.

I watched via Facebook and through conversations with our old mutual friends how Craig spoiled her and the kids. Their weekends were spent on the beach – he surfed with my son. They went hiking in the Burg. They went to Mauritius where he proposed on a kayak and she said yes -- they got married.

My daughter was a bridesmaid. My son was a groomsman. Craig’s parents and brother welcomed my ex-wife and children into their family. They told everyone how blessed they were to be gaining them as family.

She glowed with happiness. She radiated love and none of it was for me! My heart felt like it had been ripped out.

It should have been me.

Don’t be me. You think you will never be happy when you are in a rut. It is when you are there at your darkest that you need to grip down and try your hardest.

Today I live alone and still only see my kids occasionally. They are big now and harbour anger towards me for leaving them and their mother. Who can blame them?

Of all the things Eve was, she was never the mother of my children – my original true love."

"HOPE this helps a few marriages, Love and appreciate a Good woman".

#Allos_of_Mr_Lakusu

Awesome read!
Wish I could say the same about my ex, but she's an overweight conniving piece of shit

[ramon]

Originally Posted by I Love Boobs

Awesome read!
Wish I could say the same about my ex, but she's an overweight conniving piece of shit

Wow! Was she conniving when you first knew her or after you got married?

[Shadow_warrior]

well based on these months of going out to know ladies on chats and platonic meet ups

I can say safely that most relationships and marriages fail because of a few things.

1. Temper of the ladies. Is it just me or women ridiculously bad tempered these days? I have a temper, but having been around for a while and wisdom, I learn that loose lips sink ships

2. Self centered. Many of these ladies today tend to want to just take. Goal orientated and Myopic. They don't understand giving anymore. Its a one way street and they don't seem to put themselves in the other person shoes and ask if they were treated as such how would they feel

3. Men become more mellow and submissive, women become more aggressive. Sum it up, the gender is doing different things and it goes against nature. We have thrown out all our DNA and old wisdom

I wonder if one day, all the female species of every living thing were to try to take over the roles of the male, and the male start to kick back and do less, would the species survive?

[Gamerboy]

Originally Posted by happywoody

when i was younger and idealistic ...
staying faithful to one woman seemed the right thing to do
it was hard to resist temptation and stopping when i knew things were going further and deeper

but with age and with, i'm not sure if i can call it, wisdom ...
it seems like a man is as faithful as his options

hmmmm .......... open to the floor

Hmmm it’s interesting that being faithful and respecting the sanctity of marriage is deemed being idealistic. Then why get married in the first place ah? Especially when men are so-called at a ‘disadvantage’ due to the women’s charter etc etc. Nobody can ‘force’ you to do something you don’t want to, no?

With the advent of technology/social media platforms and erosion of our moral compasses, it is increasingly easy and convenient to succumb to temptations, I mean, options yeah. Especially when our wives start to resemble old hags and no longer fulfill our needs.

I guess it’s probably too much to ask that we do some self reflection on what contributed to the breakdown of relationships but one thing for sure, the kids (if any) will always be the victims of their parents’ ‘crimes’.

[ilovepantyhose]

Originally Posted by Shadow_warrior

well based on these months of going out to know ladies on chats and platonic meet ups

I can say safely that most relationships and marriages fail because of a few things.

1. Temper of the ladies. Is it just me or women ridiculously bad tempered these days? I have a temper, but having been around for a while and wisdom, I learn that loose lips sink ships

2. Self centered. Many of these ladies today tend to want to just take. Goal orientated and Myopic. They don't understand giving anymore. Its a one way street and they don't seem to put themselves in the other person shoes and ask if they were treated as such how would they feel

3. Men become more mellow and submissive, women become more aggressive. Sum it up, the gender is doing different things and it goes against nature. We have thrown out all our DNA and old wisdom

I wonder if one day, all the female species of every living thing were to try to take over the roles of the male, and the male start to kick back and do less, would the species survive?

hi bro, good points raised for discussion:

1) possible macro and micro environment causes.
macro, as sg society progress, couples tend to have lesser kids (as compared to pioneer/baby boomers generation), both husband and wife have to work, rising costs of child raising etc.

micro, when the couple only have one or two kids, the kid may be overly spoilt and pampered (likely more so for an only child). when the kid doesn't get her way, she throws a tantrum and she get her way if the parents don't discipline her. the kid learns that she can get her way by throwing a tantrum, thus this may become engrained and it carries over to adulthood. when she don't get her way, she will use her temper. until she kena someone who locks horns with her 9696, she may never temper her temper. Man in general tend to have a worse temper than a woman, but when a man loses his temper, there are consequences. when a woman loses her temper, are there consequences? tiagong women are emotional creatures leh and by virtue of her sex, other people will tend to give way to her.

another example: china's one child policy led to little emperors/empresses effect, and how spoilt/unruly they are

2) perhaps the parents are such and she copied their behaviours since young. and due to her pampered childhood, she could have taken alot of things for granted even in adulthood. the parents have to cultivate their kid's empathy from young, and teach by words and example.

sg is a competitive society. the kids are conditioned by the system to be competitive/kiasu since young. the parents perpetuate the kiasu by sending the kids for tuition/enrichment classes. when young compare grades, when adult compare job/salary/house/car/material stuff. to be fair, men are like that too, its a consequence of our macro environment.

3) i think its partially due to copying the parents' behaviour. men copy their dad's behaviour of giving way at home, and women copy their mom's domineering behaviour. men also have the tendency to put women on a pedestal. traditional gender roles have changed with times as society progresses.

and also, women's charter?

be it relationships or marriages, it is a recipocral two way street, takes two hands to clap, i don't think it will end well if one party is doing all the giving and the other party is doing all the taking

[Shadow_warrior]

should we start posting pictures of our little 3s and FBs in this thread?

censor the face lah...

[fmylife]

So after a few months, I guess this is something real and not a trap. Have been have happy moments and also she has been telling me stuff and also not hiding anything from me. Even letting me look at her work phone.
Not bad after all my catch. Hope it lasts...

[w00f]

Originally Posted by Shadow_warrior

should we start posting pictures of our little 3s and FBs in this thread?

censor the face lah...

That's a bloody good idea bro! Too bad I cut off all ties with my small three in China for few years Liao! Everything deleted!

[Shadow_warrior]

Strangely erotic

A HJ but with passion and a spontaneous girl with a bubbly attitude- MEMORABLE

Maybe this can be the hook up standard for the future

SAFE HOOK UPs and SAFE ONS

https://spankbang.com/1scbh/video/sg+girl+1

[Shadow_warrior]

What happens after you are married and wife doesn't give sex. You go out and find a FB or a little 3, but when that stales just like marriage, the following happens

I love to eat my FB out but she doesn't like
I like to 69, she doesn't like, even fingering is rare as the blood moon
her sucking is far and few, and if there is, it's as short as a 10 sec commercial.
forget about CIM or Swallowing.

Sometimes I finish and I am angry that she is lazy and not putting in effort or passion. In fact for a long period of time I boycott sex with her or any kind of intimacy because I don't have the closeness I want

For me, it's about the connection, passion, intimacy, and I expect that from someone I feel emotional about

if I can't get that, and it comes half baked with many terms and short changed, I rather pay to fulfil my primal urge to fuck and pay, and walk off. At least I know what I am getting from that exchange.

To sum it up, the wife became like that, went out to get a FB, over time, it became just like the wife. And now I am left exactly where I started.

[Shadow_warrior]

just in case anyone is thinking of falling for a WL or ex WL or finding anyone out there to replace what you have. remember, everything fresh becomes stale after a while.

This was my gripe some time back. Didn't get anywhere with my fetishes, but well that's the way the cookie crumbles

I have a fetish, nothing over the top but still not able to do them

1. CIM and swallow with my current FB
2. Have sex in the open, like at east coast, in the night, on a mat, yet needing to keep the volume down
3. Have her wear a revealing dress to see her cleavage and be so turned on, to pull aside her g string and fuck her there and then. Perhaps the backdrop is some outdoor setting with a bench.

Few reasons why it's failed. FB relationship over the years has become boring and stale, it's become like a gf and emotional. Sex is stale, chemistry is low, passion is non existent, if we do have sex once in a blue moon, she's lazy.

Proposed 1,2,3 she is not agreeable to 1,2. 3 she said yes, but still not outdoors, but she's hasn't even made the effort to come in costume

so one word. I have a fetish, but no one to fulfil.

[Siriusam]

that's why you need to set the ground rules from the very beginning.. that she is just a sex toy, a sex slave and she is to be submissive and obedient to her master at all times. the dom-sub kind of relationship tend to work out very well because it is kinky and never vanilla to begin with.

After knowing my FBs better, this is always the direction I take them with me and it has worked very well. We are adventurous and explore many different kinks, from mild BDSM to threesome to voyuer to whatever you can think of. Like I own her and control every aspect of her life. No CIM? Then you better be slapping the bitch out of her to make her know where she stands.

just my 2cent