Advise please

[yinyang]

Originally Posted by Charmaine

..your wake-up calls.
You're absolutely right. I don't know what I was thinking. I shall move on.

Bro, don't think you had really meant to carry out yours in 1st place. Good ego trip by winning over her. Take heart she owned up. Well meaning advice from others here, but we are outside looking in. Shd you brave on, be prepared for insecurities, anxieties, creeping doubts in ldtr -more so with her in nocturmal job. I know, seen fellow bros with simlliar situation on their seemingly innocent double life. Also been there and done it (even with my regular OL side dish). Suppressing truth is 2nd nature, more so with ladies of night. What you dunno dun hurt .

[Playman]

Originally Posted by NobleEagle

Haha Bro Charmaine, follow Shifu Playman to BKK next month or join me and my friends in Nov and i assure you all the 3 things will be forgotten completely

You are most welcome to join us....for a relax and exciting trip......let me know if you are interested...bro Charmaine!

Originally Posted by adidas88

hahaha ... bro charmaine ... after u join bro nobleeagle and bro playman to BKK ... join me to PRC ... and i assure u these 3 things ...
you will forget what's ur surname; bkk and that woman ....

Hahahahahahah........will try my best....for sure you will forget that woman.....and start with another new woman.....! And I will make sure that no string attached at the end of the day......On?

[NakaSky]

Originally Posted by Charmaine

The trip ended the best possible way - we fucked a lot and she promised me she will consider me strongly. One week after I left Bangkok, we talked about it in detail and she chose me over him. I promised her I will marry her and bring her to Singapore, and the next time I'm over I will meet her parents. She's over the moon with the fact that someone would even consider accepting her for who she was, together with a daughter that isn't mine to begin with. Of course I'm lying. The plan is to become the player now - I want her to suffer emotionally as much as I did. I don't know if what I'm doing will be right, but to be honest I don't really care now. It will be nice to meet her parents, members of her family, paint her this beautiful picture of how I'm going to take care of her for life then dump her when she has nothing left to hold on to. She's going to tell her boyfriend that she met someone new (ie, me) soon.

Not all men get played in Thailand. Sometimes the men bite back.

Bro , u think u can beat her at this game?

Thai girls are so good at turning around the games that u do not even know how u lost it at the last minute.

U are still too new in the field to bite back the veterans in this old game of courtship.

Just my views only anyway.

[adidas88]

Originally Posted by NakaSky

Bro , u think u can beat her at this game?

Thai girls are so good at turning around the games that u do not even know how u lost it at the last minute.

U are still too new in the field to bite back the veterans in this old game of courtship.

Just my views only anyway.

bro nanasky ... this is not about who's going to win or lose eventually ..
or how good the thai gals r .. or how senior one have been in the playing field .. etc etc ...

it's abt doing the right thing right and we r here to advise bro charmaine to let go and move on ..

ur intention might be good but it's was not convey in a positive way ...
ppl with low esteem will feel hurt if their ego is stroke and will cause further damage to a situation already going bad ...
u know what i mean .....

my 2 cents worth ...

[NakaSky]

Originally Posted by adidas88

bro nanasky ... this is not about who's going to win or lose eventually ..
or how good the thai gals r .. or how senior one have been in the playing field .. etc etc ...

it's abt doing the right thing right and we r here to advise bro charmaine to let go and move on ..

ur intention might be good but it's was not convey in a positive way ...
ppl with low esteem will feel hurt if their ego is stroke and will cause further damage to a situation already going bad ...
u know what i mean .....

my 2 cents worth ...

It's NakaSky , not nanasky....hehe...

Win or lose in a relationship is all about your ego. Define winning in a relationship? The one who gets the last laugh?

Right or wrong , i believe although we try to convey the message to Bro Charmaine , he will still do whatever he deems fit even though we try to tell him it's not ethical/right to do so.

As I could see he is rather "hurt" in this relationship,i believe he would be irrational when he comes to making decisions.

But I seen all too many trying to get back their ego/pride , in the end hurting themselves more than trying to inflict more hurt on the other party.

I can foresee that if Bro Charmaine will feel so empty/hurt himself "should" he succeed to reach the final stages of the plan. Thai girls in this trade do not "trust" people that easily or take your word for it. ( even they said they believe in u )

Sometimes advice given must be from two ways,if all come from the soothing direction,might not work.

[adidas88]

Originally Posted by NakaSky

It's NakaSky , not nanasky....hehe...

Win or lose in a relationship is all about your ego. Define winning in a relationship? The one who gets the last laugh?

Right or wrong , i believe although we try to convey the message to Bro Charmaine , he will still do whatever he deems fit even though we try to tell him it's not ethical/right to do so.

As I could see he is rather "hurt" in this relationship,i believe he would be irrational when he comes to making decisions.

But I seen all too many trying to get back their ego/pride , in the end hurting themselves more than trying to inflict more hurt on the other party.

I can foresee that if Bro Charmaine will feel so empty/hurt himself "should" he succeed to reach the final stages of the plan. Thai girls in this trade do not "trust" people that easily or take your word for it. ( even they said they believe in u )

Sometimes advice given must be from two ways,if all come from the soothing direction,might not work.

sorry abt ur nick, bro ...
understand where u r coming from ..

[Charmaine]

Originally Posted by yinyang

Bro, don't think you had really meant to carry out yours in 1st place. Good ego trip by winning over her. Take heart she owned up. Well meaning advice from others here, but we are outside looking in. Shd you brave on, be prepared for insecurities, anxieties, creeping doubts in ldtr -more so with her in nocturmal job. I know, seen fellow bros with simlliar situation on their seemingly innocent double life. Also been there and done it (even with my regular OL side dish). Suppressing truth is 2nd nature, more so with ladies of night. What you dunno dun hurt .

You're right, yinyang. I wasn't really serious about carrying out my threat. The truth is, I still have feelings for her (although I really want to feel otherwise) but there are just too many obstacles in the way now to have a meaningful relationship with someone who's lied to me before (I know, it's common but I'm just not used to it). I'm not ready to accept somebody else's kid as my own too, although she has also promised me that she will have one more with me together.

I guess I could take it the right way and be thankful that at least she has been honest with me, but you have no idea how hard I had to dig for her to tell me the truth. I am positive that if I haven't had given her ultimatums of any sort she will just continue milking me off for the next half a century. I also find it absurd (maybe it's another cultural thing that I still cannot fully come to grips with) that she should have a boyfriend waiting for her in the wings, for her to observe such impossible promises (she's waited for him for 2 years already) but yet find nothing wrong about fooling around with me. I just find it strange - she claims she loves him but still flirted with me openly (with the blessings of her sister) and even slept with me. Even if she were to end up with me I will feel no sense of security, even when married.

We've talked about getting married (I was only half serious of course. I do like her but I'll never accept her child as my own) and she seems intent on coming to Singapore to settle down but has rejected the notion of work. Are all Thais like that? Not even part-time? Her rationale is that she has seen too many families break down because of double-income earners not having enough time for the family, but there are also serious practical concerns regarding how a family is supposed to survive on one single pay check a month. It doesn't make much sense in this country.

I still think she likes me, but can't help but think that the only reason she chose me is because I represent a better future to her than her current boyfriend. Love has taken a back seat to practical considerations. Yes I do feel fulfilled from an ego-trip point-of-view, but I would have preferred her to choose me because she loves me.

[pussyman72]

aye is this the same girl from the pub that he meet mths ago and got ignore???

[adidas88]

Originally Posted by Charmaine

The truth is, I still have feelings for her (although I really want to feel otherwise) ..

it shows u r still human ....

Originally Posted by Charmaine

I also find it absurd (maybe it's another cultural thing that I still cannot fully come to grips with) that she should have a boyfriend waiting for her in the wings, for her to observe such impossible promises (she's waited for him for 2 years already) but yet find nothing wrong about fooling around with me. I just find it strange - she claims she loves him but still flirted with me openly (with the blessings of her sister) and even slept with me. Even if she were to end up with me I will feel no sense of security, even when married...

this is thai culture ... i am damn sure her boy friend knows she is sleeping with many man but he's okay with it ... as long as he come back to a home with food on the table and a wife to bonk ... that's all he matters ..
as for her .. she feel she's doing all for the family .. so there's no shame and it's okay ..
this is their culture ...

[Charmaine]

Originally Posted by adidas88

it shows u r still human ....


this is thai culture ... i am damn sure her boy friend knows she is sleeping with many man but he's okay with it ... as long as he come back to a home with food on the table and a wife to bonk ... that's all he matters ..
as for her .. she feel she's doing all for the family .. so there's no shame and it's okay ..
this is their culture ...

adidas88: Sure. But her boyfriend is Singaporean. I don't think I've mentioned that anywhere here.

Irony, isn't it?

[adidas88]

Originally Posted by Charmaine

adidas88: Sure. But her boyfriend is Singaporean. I don't think I've mentioned that anywhere here.
Irony, isn't it?

.... .... her bf or father of her kid is a sillyporean ??? ... ...

she can kiss goodbye to her dreams ...
probably the sillyporean have orledi got married in SG and have 3 kids to enjoy the government incentive funds ...
OMG ... unbelieveable ...

[Charmaine]

Originally Posted by adidas88

.... .... her bf or father of her kid is a sillyporean ??? ... ...

she can kiss goodbye to her dreams ...
probably the sillyporean have orledi got married in SG and have 3 kids to enjoy the government incentive funds ...
OMG ... unbelieveable ...

According to her, he's still shuttling between Singapore and Bangkok but has stopped trying to locate her. She has secretly checked his passport before and he has made continuous trips to Thailand over the years but hasn't bothered to look for her or her daughter.

The drama continues..

[perish__]

Originally Posted by Charmaine

According to her, he's still shuttling between Singapore and Bangkok but has stopped trying to locate her. She has secretly checked his passport before and he has made continuous trips to Thailand over the years but hasn't bothered to look for her or her daughter.

The drama continues..

this is like LOST season part 4 ...
real drama . and lost of plot twists . amazing

[NakaSky]

Originally Posted by Charmaine

According to her, he's still shuttling between Singapore and Bangkok but has stopped trying to locate her. She has secretly checked his passport before and he has made continuous trips to Thailand over the years but hasn't bothered to look for her or her daughter.

The drama continues..

For a moment..i thought u are talking about me. I do have a daughter in bangkok. How old is the child by the way?? hehee..

[Playman]

Originally Posted by Charmaine

According to her, he's still shuttling between Singapore and Bangkok but has stopped trying to locate her. She has secretly checked his passport before and he has made continuous trips to Thailand over the years but hasn't bothered to look for her or her daughter.

The drama continues..

It is a normal thing of which I heard almost every single trip there.......nothing new for the past 15 years......