Advise please

[theUnforgotten]

Originally Posted by Charmaine

theUnforgotten: Well in my defence (not that I have a lot left in my armour) I never sought out to find love. As cliche as it may sound, it sort of found me. I first stepped into a G-Club not knowing what to expect and not expecting a good time - hell, I was rubbing my hands in glee at the anticipation of a lot of whiskey more than I was excited at the prospect of a girl sitting beside me the entire evening trying to look like she gives a shit. But then she appeared. I think I'm not going to go cold turkey for now - changing phone numbers seem a little drastic (I've had it for a million years now).

She's always maintained that she isn't good enough for me. I think the truth is I was never good enough for her. She deserves someone to really love her for who she is. I can never be that person. I'm shallow minded, petty, unforgiving, suspicious and needy. Surely any girl, WL or not, Thai or local - deserves someone better, no?

OK bro , all i can say is , as quoted by a famous samster : Peace of Mind is Priceless

sometimes "love" finds you in the weirdest of places, but i know your are having a tough time at this stage managing your emotions. Don't put too much thought into it , try to do distracting activities to take your wandering mind off of her. I thinking u are now at a "crossroads" i do hope u find the right path .

take care mate

[Mr.romantic]

Originally Posted by theUnforgotten

bro charmaine,

I applaud u in your efforts to come clean and post your experiences.

Always try to remain focused , and remember do not look for love in the wrong places ( G clubs included) . Sometimes it can be hard to separate the wheat from the chaff of SMS and determine if her feelings for you are made up or for real .

It can be difficult at this stage to think rationally , as we human beings have emotions too. Bro if u want to make a clean break , do it . Get a new phone number change it , then get on with life.

Originally Posted by theUnforgotten

OK bro , all i can say is , as quoted by a famous samster : Peace of Mind is Priceless

sometimes "love" finds you in the weirdest of places, but i know your are having a tough time at this stage managing your emotions. Don't put too much thought into it , try to do distracting activities to take your wandering mind off of her. I thinking u are now at a "crossroads" i do hope u find the right path .

take care mate

wow happy hour guru giving G-Club advice to bro Charmaine sial!

any BKK G-Club has happy hour or not?!

[pussyman72]

Originally Posted by Norikasan55

A farang quote: "Nothing is free in thailand, there is no free lunch in thailand, there's certainly no free sex."

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Finally i see good posting from u bud. good for newbies to see this

[Cyberspace Nerd]

Originally Posted by Norikasan55

AA farang quote: "Nothing is free in thailand, there is no free lunch in thailand, there's certainly no free sex."

Are you kidding?? Hakoshu recently got 3 ONS during his recent trip to BKK.

[Thai_Traveller]

Originally Posted by Charmaine

Yes, I've been silly. But I also believe I've been rational from the time I began till the time I ended. I've considered all this and more.....

I've grown stronger from the experience. There too much to do and see in Bangkok to waste your time focusing your effort and attention on one exclusive person.

Bro, glad to see you finally come to your senses.

[A-WAH]

Originally Posted by Charmaine

Thank you everyone for sharing your personal thoughts with me as well. It's been a pleasure (although a frankly painful one) to reiterate my story with people who has been through it all and more.

Well, she's sought to stay in touch after yesterday. At 5pm today she texted me again - some random thing about what she's doing. I politely texted back and we ended the day's conversation at that. Yes I still miss her, but it's no longer as passionate as before. I guess time does heal everything. You're right, KrazyMe, she's poised and sophisticated. Not all G-Club girls are (from my limited experience some are still village girls trapped in a hi-so lookalike body), but you could say she's a little more refined. At least she's not stupid - we know that for a fact. She knows men's intentions inside out (to ultimately fuck her) and she knows that she's been cheated once, so she's holding all the aces.

theUnforgotten: Well in my defence (not that I have a lot left in my armour) I never sought out to find love. As cliche as it may sound, it sort of found me. I first stepped into a G-Club not knowing what to expect and not expecting a good time - hell, I was rubbing my hands in glee at the anticipation of a lot of whiskey more than I was excited at the prospect of a girl sitting beside me the entire evening trying to look like she gives a shit. But then she appeared. I think I'm not going to go cold turkey for now - changing phone numbers seem a little drastic (I've had it for a million years now).

I agree with AdGuy. WLs deserve love too. But as I see this thread generate slowly into a philosophical minefield, I'm beginning to see why she's wrong. She's always maintained that she isn't good enough for me. I think the truth is I was never good enough for her. She deserves someone to really love her for who she is. I can never be that person. I'm shallow minded, petty, unforgiving, suspicious and needy. Surely any girl, WL or not, Thai or local - deserves someone better, no?

Bro Charmaine, i have this quite similiar accounter before. My thai gf is actually not pretty but i still like her no matter wat other say. Is the feeling inside you that care. I know

But sadly at last, we still go our own way. The feeling is so painful and only we know ourselve. But believe me, times will heal your wound. Dun think too much about it and try to pass ur time with something to do.

And finally try to get a new gf, and you will think back sometimes is quite funny why we are so silly making the issue so important like dun have her, we will die.

Take care bro.

[Mr.romantic]

Originally Posted by Cyberspace Nerd

Are you kidding?? Hakoshu recently got 3 ONS during his recent trip to BKK.

Originally Posted by Norikasan55

maybe because he handsome man mr romantic called him the ONS Guru leh...., no like those farang old ugly fat in the documentary. 555

hahaha yes always consult Hakoshu the ONS guru for tips on getting free bonks.

[pussyman72]

Originally Posted by A-WAH

My thai gf is actually not pretty but i still like her no matter wat other say.

The feeling is so painful and only we know ourselve. But believe me, times will heal your wound.

And finally try to get a new gf, and you will think back sometimes is quite funny why we are so silly making the issue so important like dun have her, we will die.

whether ur gf pretty or not pretty is not the major issue, so long the person u feel comfortable n u like her is good enough. there is nothing to shy about it. so what pple said she look bloody ugly it ur gf n not theirs, if they are ur friend they wont said this to u.

what is there to pain for when it was never started or the girl did not commit to the relationship. treating a person good does not mean commit to have a relationship. so i dont see why is there to sad about. maybe feel sian cos cannot get her to be ur gf but other then that there is nothing to crazy or mad about when both did not really started it as steady.

yes i do agree that nobody know how it feel then those involve but dont forget those who involve into a real relationship n get hurt are worst then those that did not even started (one side love). trust me i know how it feel when we into the relationship. why cos im one of the injure ones before and for a long long time.

well heal will sure heal is about when it will fully recovered. some take weeks mths n yrs. so it how u handle a failed relationship.

one thing for sure if wanna find WL gers as gf. dont put in too much hope u will get something out of it. u will tends to get hurt more then u asking for. so if wanna get involve then dont cry over it when the girl not giving what u expect.

i believe what mr norisan have post a farang video tell all what this WL looking for. even the farang wife feel pity for those farang getting involve with the girls and she know she cant do much about it. she also will try to help her girls.

Remember one more thing is A Thai will always help A Thai. no matter what happen it still thai. There is nothing we can do about it. unless ur friend wife n u are close maybe she will tell u forget this relationship n move on or tell u that the girl's love is fake n got bf.

[Charmaine]

Originally Posted by A-WAH

Bro Charmaine, i have this quite similiar accounter before. My thai gf is actually not pretty but i still like her no matter wat other say. Is the feeling inside you that care. I know

But sadly at last, we still go our own way. The feeling is so painful and only we know ourselve. But believe me, times will heal your wound. Dun think too much about it and try to pass ur time with something to do.

And finally try to get a new gf, and you will think back sometimes is quite funny why we are so silly making the issue so important like dun have her, we will die.

Take care bro.

Thank you for your comments.

I believe it's as good as over. We still kept in touch, but it became less passive and more like a chore. I was always looking to hear from her, but she's been elusive. Then it all happened.

I bought her the latest 500 baht prepaid credit to top up her phone just a few days ago, but she's not been contacting me as often as she used to. For a period of 3 days there was no news. I plucked the courage to call her and "check" on her - she was at home and everything sounded normal. I quizzed her on why she hasn't been texting me lately. The usual "credit has run out" excuse was used. I half-believed her, but didn't over-react. A day later I was finally through - I texted her "Can you tell me why your credit ran out so fast? Have you been texting or calling other men?" She flipped. She called me childish and told me she didn't want to talk to me. I reacted angrily and told her off, saying that if she thought I was childish then we shouldn't contact each other again. "Can you blame me? Do you know what you do for a living? How would I know how and when to trust you?"

She replied "Up to you." and we've not contacted each other since. I'm convinced now that she's got skeletons in her closet and was simply trying to bail herself out of a difficult situation. I wasn't born yesterday - I know I'm not wrong. How on earth are you able to use up 500 baht worth of credit in a few days? I'm seen through her at last.

[Sinoview]

Originally Posted by Charmaine

"Can you blame me? Do you know what you do for a living? How would I know how and when to trust you?"

She replied "Up to you."

Young bro....

U brought out the "most feared" question that any WL ll wanto hear.....

U really broke the camel's back.

What answer U ll expect fm her ?

Long way to go for U........Sad not true.

[Optimus_Prime]

Originally Posted by Charmaine

I bought her the latest 500 baht prepaid credit to top up her phone just a few days ago, but she's not been contacting me as often as she used to. For a period of 3 days there was no news. - I texted her "Can you tell me why your credit ran out so fast? Have you been texting or calling other men?" She flipped.

Bro, this is just the first learning step in a long road.

Learn from this experience and you won't get so hurt the next time round.

[adidas88]

Originally Posted by Charmaine

Thank you for your comments.

I believe it's as good as over. We still kept in touch, but it became less passive and more like a chore. I was always looking to hear from her, but she's been elusive. Then it all happened.

I bought her the latest 500 baht prepaid credit to top up her phone just a few days ago, but she's not been contacting me as often as she used to. For a period of 3 days there was no news. I plucked the courage to call her and "check" on her - she was at home and everything sounded normal. I quizzed her on why she hasn't been texting me lately. The usual "credit has run out" excuse was used. I half-believed her, but didn't over-react. A day later I was finally through - I texted her "Can you tell me why your credit ran out so fast? Have you been texting or calling other men?" She flipped. She called me childish and told me she didn't want to talk to me. I reacted angrily and told her off, saying that if she thought I was childish then we shouldn't contact each other again. "Can you blame me? Do you know what you do for a living? How would I know how and when to trust you?"

She replied "Up to you." and we've not contacted each other since. I'm convinced now that she's got skeletons in her closet and was simply trying to bail herself out of a difficult situation. I wasn't born yesterday - I know I'm not wrong. How on earth are you able to use up 500 baht worth of credit in a few days? I'm seen through her at last.

bro charmaine ... i'm actually surprised by ur sudden u-turn reaction with ur gal ..

i agreed with bro sinoview .... u have a long long way to go in the playing ground ...
for one ... u have to understand that thai gals do not like to be question ..
regardless where or what's ur standpoint is ... that's their culture ...

"Can you blame me? Do you know what you do for a living? How would I know how and when to trust you?"
this is not a very gentleman way to bring ur point straight at her ...
in the first place, u already know what she do for a living ...
where and how, u get to know her ...
and u r the one that wanted to start a relationship with her knowing what she do ..
that was all ur decisions and u make ur own choices ...

those questions that u posted to her ...
it should be u who should be doing the thinking instead ...

bro charmaine ...
you are responsible for your own decisions, your own actions and your own life ....

In life .. sometime we have to bite the bullet and move on ..

[Charmaine]

Originally Posted by adidas88

bro charmaine ... i'm actually surprised by ur sudden u-turn reaction with ur gal ..

i agreed with bro sinoview .... u have a long long way to go in the playing ground ...
for one ... u have to understand that thai gals do not like to be question ..
regardless where or what's ur standpoint is ... that's their culture ...

"Can you blame me? Do you know what you do for a living? How would I know how and when to trust you?"
this is not a very gentleman way to bring ur point straight at her ...
in the first place, u already know what she do for a living ...
where and how, u get to know her ...
and u r the one that wanted to start a relationship with her knowing what she do ..
that was all ur decisions and u make ur own choices ...

those questions that u posted to her ...
it should be u who should be doing the thinking instead ...

bro charmaine ...
you are responsible for your own decisions, your own actions and your own life ....

In life .. sometime we have to bite the bullet and move on ..

Hi my friend adidas88,

I'm definitely more in control of my own emotions that I was a couple of months before. Back then I was a wreck - now I'm just indifferent. Well you can't stop loving a girl overnight, can you. I think it's dying off slowly but it's definitely going to take some time.

I know it's my fault. I treated her like I would a local girl and I'm sorry about it. I mean, in all my previous relationships I've always been advocating open communication and honesty, so in times of argument everything comes out. I should have known better - she's a Thai after all. She will seek to avoid all forms of confrontation and will mai-pen-rai it away. I do have a lot to learn.

I'm slowly giving up on this relationship but like I said it's going to take time. I will take it as a learning experience.

[Charmaine]

Time to revive the classic sadfuck thread with an updated dose of "Charmaine-nism"!

I called her on Saturday night after work - she didn't pick up.

I left her alone on Sunday but texted her a fresh serial number again on Monday morning (I assume she ran out of credits again); no reply. I texted her again later that day. No reply.

I texted her on Tuesday afternoon and there was no reply. I called her just after work (around 5pm Bangkok time where she should be getting ready for work at home); she didn't pick up.

Cue a million worries and worst-case senarios in my mind; I texted her an urgent "Are you alright? Don't make me worry." No response.

I called her on Wednesday afternoon; there was no response. Just when I was about to assume she either lost her mobile phone or got into a serious accident, I texted her a last desperate time. A while later I finally heard from her - from a foreign number.

"No credit. Can you give me the serial number again? I lost it."

It dawned upon me that she was ignoring me all this while. I was furious. I texted her a very angry response (something along the lines of "Do you really think I'm stupid? If you have another man just tell me. No need to hide anymore"); she flipped too and texted back angry replies ("You are always calling at the wrong time. We have talked about this before. Don't play games with me").

I've already made plans to see her in a few days, with air tickets booked and everything. But right now all I want to do is to bitch-slap her and make sure she's sorry for being so nonchalant about everything that's happened.

My dear friends, is she hiding another man?

[Maitong Kit Mak]

Originally Posted by Charmaine

It dawned upon me that she was ignoring me all this while. I was furious. I texted her a very angry response (something along the lines of "Do you really think I'm stupid? If you have another man just tell me. No need to hide anymore"); she flipped too and texted back angry replies ("You are always calling at the wrong time. We have talked about this before. Don't play games with me").

I've already made plans to see her in a few days, with air tickets booked and everything. But right now all I want to do is to bitch-slap her and make sure she's sorry for being so nonchalant about everything that's happened.

My dear friends, is she hiding another man?

Dear Bro Char, answer this question urself...u should jolly well know the answer by now...Face it or a continue with this 'Cat & Mice' game...