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Queen on Scotland: Think before you leave
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Last updated 07:53 15/09/2014

GUY FAULCONBRIDGE, JILL LAWLESS


Queen Elizabeth II has broken her silence over the Scottish independence vote, telling a member of the public that she hoped Scots would think very carefully about the future when voting in a referendum that could break up the United Kingdom.

The monarch, coming out of a morning service at a church in Crathie near her Balmoral estate in Scotland, responded to a remark from a well-wisher that they would not mention the referendum.

"I hope people will think very carefully about the future," The Times newspaper reported the Queen as saying.

A vote for independence on Thursday (local time) would divide the kingdom and although Elizabeth is assumed to back the union, she has been extremely careful to avoid making public comments on the referendum.

"This is totally impartial and reinforces the point that this is a matter for the people of Scotland," a source at Buckingham Palace told Reuters.

"The queen is constitutionally impartial, above politics and has always said this is a matter for the people of Scotland," the source said.

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Whatever the outcome of this week's vote, Queen Elizabeth is still likely to be Queen of Scotland, since most Scots are keen to retain her as head of state even if they vote to go it alone.

Should Scotland vote for independence, nationalists say the Queen, who is 88, would remain Queen of Scotland although they give no guarantee of the monarchy's long-term future

Scotland is close to the Queen's heart. Her mother was Scottish and she spent much of her childhood there. Her late sister Margaret was born there.

The country is the favourite summer destination for her and her husband Philip, who leave London in August for their estate at Balmoral, often joined by other members of the royal family.

Her only official comment on the referendum came in May in a message to the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland.

"In this important year of referendum, we pray that whatever the outcome, people of faith and people of good will, will work together for the social good of Scotland," she said.

However, she gave an indication of her views on a split of her realm during a speech to mark 25 years on the throne in 1977 when she referred to referendums on devolved governments in Scotland and Wales, which were later rejected by voters.

"I number Kings and Queens of England and of Scotland, and Princes of Wales among my ancestors and so I can readily understand these aspirations. But I cannot forget that I was crowned Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland."*

Just for fun, Simpsons character Groundskeeper Willie has weighed into the debate, and is as belligerently pro-independence as you'd expect.



IF SCOTLAND GOES, WHAT HAPPENS NEXT?

How do you divorce after a 300-year union? It's complicated, and there is a deadline.

If Scots vote yes to separation, a clock starts ticking down to March 24, 2016 - the independence day declared by the Scottish government.

The British and Scottish administrations have agreed that they will recognise the outcome of the referendum and appoint negotiators to work out the details of separation "in the best interests of the people of Scotland and of the rest of the United Kingdom."

But there is disagreement on many issues, and only 18 months to redraft laws, establish international agreements and work out relationships with international organisations.

Robert Hazell, head of the Constitution Unit at University College London, says that is an "impossible timetable," and estimates it could take up to three years to hammer out the details.

Some of the key issues:

DIVIDING THE ASSETS

The Yes and No campaigns have very different assessments of Scotland's financial picture, including its share of Britain's national debt and North Sea oil reserves.

The pro-independence Scottish government says Scotland would be entitled to 90 percent of Britain's oil wealth - based on divvying up the two countries' waters - but only liable for about 8 percent of its 1.3 trillion pound (NZ$2.6 trillion) national debt, based on its share of the UK population.

The British government disputes this, pointing out that Scotland has higher per capita public-sector spending than England and so is more indebted.

Scottish independence leader Alex Salmond has signalled he could play hardball.

COUNTRY CLUBS

Salmond says that Scotland wants to remain in the United Nations, the European Union and NATO, and he anticipates little difficulty in keeping those seats.

Opponents say re-admission cannot be guaranteed. NATO, in particular, may be perturbed by Salmond's promise to remove nuclear weapons from Scottish territory.

That's not so much a problem for Scotland - nuclear weapons are not a membership requirement - as for Britain, whose entire nuclear arsenal is based aboard submarines at the Faslane naval base in western Scotland.

Admiral Mark Stanhope, a former head of the Royal Navy, has said that moving the weapons "would add a dangerous period of destabilisation in our nuclear defense posture at a time when the international picture is clearly deteriorating."

The Royal United Services Institute, a military think-tank, estimates that moving the weapons could cost several billion pounds (dollars) and take until 2028. In the shorter term, Salmond may seek to use the base as a bargaining chip in negotiations with Britain.

Opponents of independence also say the loss of Scotland would sharply reduce Britain's clout on the world stage. It could endanger its place in the G-7 group of wealthy industrialised nations and its seat on the United Nations Security Council, although Salmond says Scotland would support Britain in efforts to keep the security council seat.

THE CURRENCY QUESTION

The day after an independence vote, the pound sterling will remain Scotland's official currency. The Scottish government wants to keep it in the long term as well - as a key prop of stability amid the uncertainty independence would bring.

British officials and bankers say it's not that simple. Bank of England governor Mark Carney has said that "a currency union is incompatible with sovereignty".

Salmond thinks the British government is bluffing. He says "a common-sense agreement on a common currency" is in everyone's best interest.

Another unknown is whether businesses will pull out of Scotland. Financial institutions including the Royal Bank of Scotland and insurance giant Standard Life have announced plans to transfer some operations south of the border to ensure they remain part of British tax and currency systems.

Salmond says these are administrative measures and that the firms will keep most of their thousands of jobs in Scotland - but only time will tell.

DRAWING A BORDER

At the moment only a blue-and-white billboard informs motorists and train passengers that they have passed from England into Scotland, and border checks will not be set up the day after an independence vote.

Salmond said there is "no danger" of such border formalities, saying Scotland would become part of the passport-free Common Travel Area Britain operates with the Channel Islands and the Republic of Ireland.

He says Scotland, like Britain, will be a member of the EU. But opponents say membership cannot be guaranteed; countries such as Spain, that face strong secessionist movements, may be uneasy about quick recognition.

If Scotland remains outside the EU - or if Britain leaves, as some London politicians wish - there may be no alternative to border checks. Britain could also take umbrage if Scotland adopts much more liberal immigration policies.

Scots will be getting different passports if they opt for independence, even if they don't need them to cross the border. The Scottish government says all British citizens living in Scotland will automatically be considered Scottish citizens, as will Scotland-born Britons who live elsewhere. They will be able to apply for Scottish passports from independence day in 2016, and would be allowed to retain dual Scottish and British nationality.

KEEPING THE QUEEN

One thing both sides agree on - Queen Elizabeth II will continue to be the Scottish monarch after independence.

Scotland and England shared a monarch for a century before they united politically in 1707, and the queen remains head of state in Canada, Australia and several other former British colonies.

The queen will keep her Balmoral estate in Scotland, the royal family's traditional summer-vacation destination.

Many other symbols of state are up for grabs. Scotland will likely adopt the Saltire, a blue-and-white flag that already flies alongside the Union Jack over government buildings in Edinburgh.

The red, white and blue British flag combines the emblems of its member regions, including England's red-and-white Cross of St George and Scotland's blue. A redesign of the iconic banner may be in order.

- Reuters, AP

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