Gers Are Still Gers

[sir cum-a-lot]

Originally Posted by Kyser Soze

Bro JAXXX, well said --"Nice guys are always on the girls' reserve team never the first 11". I believe you are a football fan.

good guys finish last, nice guys never the 1st choice on the list. yet when we choose to move on in search of greener pastures, she goes on a violent trance threatening to die, as though we're the cause of her misery, and we owe her everything under the sun.

double standards i might add, for she transposes the benchmark from the ex to the new guy, or if not raises the standards due to the shortcomings that the ex failed to fulfill, and that the new guy on the list shall & must comply with. on many occassions witnessed - how much ($/gifts) you shower on me is how much you love me.

otherwise in context of football, expecting the sub to come in with 10min to final whistle to slot in goals, that the 1st choice failed to in the past 80min of the game.

[sir cum-a-lot]

Originally Posted by shrek

i have same thoughts too.. actually i feel girls nowadays if wanna go pak tor will find bad guys cos of the excitment they can provide for the girls, but when come to marriage, the girls usually will find good guys.. that's really irony..

i think there's more to add i might say, the good husband is nice & responsible (aka: BORING!). Hence, reason for her to meet guys & still go on single dates to have "fun". especially since the man rarely does the laundry, there's no concern if there'd be semen traces found on her clothes.

while if the husband is shrewed & has attitude, goes on a drinking binge once in awhile. 1 thing's for sure, she'd fly into fury if lipstick/woman's perfume traces was found in the laundry.

what they usually say: when the man Suddenly treats the wife too nice/ buy her expensive gift (apart from special dates)/bring her on a romantic dinner - he's probably been naughty.

what they don't say is: when the wife Suddenly changes the sheets/ cleans the house/ do the laundry (despite the load being little)/ whip up a sumpcious dinner - she's probably been naughty too.

[Kyser Soze]

Originally Posted by sir cum-a-lot

what they usually say: when the man Suddenly treats the wife too nice/ buy her expensive gift (apart from special dates)/bring her on a romantic dinner - he's probably been naughty.

what they don't say is: when the wife Suddenly changes the sheets/ cleans the house/ do the laundry (despite the load being little)/ whip up a sumpcious dinner - she's probably been naughty too.

I have no qualms about what you said for both the man and woman. Seriously speaking, women are no longer the weaker sex. They are capable to outshine men in many areas, be it studies, career etc. Not to mention, these days women are also as good in finding 'the other man' outside their marriages. I wonder if this is called 'the vicious cycle'?

Often, it is more painful to see a married/attached woman having another man. As most of the time emotions are involved, the pain inflicted on the man is always unbearable.

[_AXL_]

Originally Posted by OceanEleven

WOMAN DEFINATIONS

Logic: This is her perception of the situation done to her best liking.

Solution: Ways to solve problems that suits her taste.

Democratic: It is either her way or her way.

Freedom of Choices: We have two choices and they are “YES” or “OK”.

Freedom of Speech: Words spoken is what she wants to hear.

Equality: Man and woman have equal rights but woman retains the benefits of the weaker sex.

Beauty & Spa: Her glamour is your honor, so you must chip in a part.

Electronic Gadgets: To her is a waste of time and money but demand surround sound and plasma when watching her “Huan Zhu Ge Ge. (还珠格格)”

Soccer: 22 idiots chasing for one ball.

Golf: Pay money, sweat under the hot sun, whack the damn ball and then start searching for it.

Great Sale: Buy first, then think of the use later.

MANGO Sale: Buy first even if it doesn’t fit her because she has plans (started planning 3 years ago) to loose weight.

Save Cost: Drive from Jurong to Carrefour because the Milo there is 10cents cheaper than NTUC.

bro oceaneleven, wanted to up u for this post but realised i upped u before.

u talking about me cos i experienced every single thing u have said. women are like that, and i m sure women who trawl this forum will be looking closely at this thread. to the women reading this, yes, please do not deny it, u all r guilty as charged for the above.

my ex-gf stopped me from buying a $150 valentino tie at taka, but 2 hours later made me sign her up on a $2k slimming course in the same bloody building, which had no effect though. honey, if u want to lose weight, how about hitting the gym which u went like twice in 6 months, which also coincidentally paid $1600 for u??? best part, the $2k course is a 24-mth interest free credit card instalment plan and i just paid the last instalment 2 mths ago.

ladies, justify for all u want. dont blame us when u push us away with yr behaviour. at least with fls, wls, ktv gals, we spend on them and usually we get much better sex than the "can u wash the dishes first, 1 min bj, special treat" love making session! One word, women are SELFISH, period. dont need to blame it on the time of the month, insecurity. even better, blame it on the ex-bf who treated her like a queen, so the current bf must treat her like one. does that mean that i can bonk her best friend on the side, beat her up on many occasions and ask her to pay my credit card bills like her ex-bf did??? so, go back to the ex-bf lah, i would say... that usually is followed by the emotional blackmail, eg. the tears, the poor puppy face and the "u dont love me anymore"s. women, u cant live without them, u cant live with them... haiz

[_AXL_]

Originally Posted by doomday123

But most of the times, girlfriend of guys with tattoo are usually pretty as wat I seen so far.

Maybe love at first sight. I feel that every girl had an idle boyfriend in her mind. So maybe Dick is the type of boy she liked.

bro doomday123, guys with tattoo usually have gfs who are pretty, that's quite true, come to think of it. but they r not the ones the girls will probably just to get that rush of having danger lurking around the corner. gangster mah... that's why quite a number of my tattooed friends change gfs very often.

hey!!! that sounds likes much more fun than what i m having. maybe should go get a tattoo... just kidding...

[Five Stone]

Seems that many still "suffer" the prowess of the ladies.

[OceanEleven]

Originally Posted by _AXL_

bro oceaneleven, wanted to up u for this post but realised i upped u before.

Never knew than I am gonna unleashed the lighter side of you by that post. Anyway more than often we are still walking on tight rope when we talk about them. Honestly we do have to shoulder part of the blame as well for we are so keen to bring out the megawatt smile in them, for we love them so much so that we rather pinch on boozing than pinching on them. Hopefully one day we will all get appreciated.

[sir cum-a-lot]

Originally Posted by Kyser Soze

I have no qualms about what you said for both the man and woman. Seriously speaking, women are no longer the weaker sex. They are capable to outshine men in many areas, be it studies, career etc. Not to mention, these days women are also as good in finding 'the other man' outside their marriages. I wonder if this is called 'the vicious cycle'?

Often, it is more painful to see a married/attached woman having another man. As most of the time emotions are involved, the pain inflicted on the man is always unbearable.

honestly, though the females now are becoming more independant & self-sufficient, personally i don't see that as a threat. in fact, I gladly welcome their self-sufficiency. the only down side that pisses me big time is when, they think with that little financial independance, they can start to put on airs, put their nose up in the clouds & belittle us.

despite their claim to "girl power", woman's independance etc, they still have tendency to adopt the age old "logic": men are stronger than women, men must take care of women.

galavanting/infidelity issues quite subjective i should say, bcos not everyone goes round bedding others. however, the lame excuse "other's are doing so, so why not?" gets on everyone's nerves sometimes.

[Deep Blue]

Ex GF wanted a slimming course, help her to paid half on the condition that she will attend every session and not expecting me to be "Ahmad". Meaning dont expect me to fetch her to the slimming center for every session, wait for her like an idiot for 2 hours then send her home.

NOTE: I work in the extreme West and she in the CBD, we stayed in the north and the slimming center in the East.

End of the day, I am like a bus driver with a fix route as long as she has a session on that day. Certain days where I cannot make it or late, I faced the backlash. Cannot send but can pick her up right? So, there I am again, driving into CBD during the peak hours, pay ERP, pertol, parking, wait 2 hours, have late lousy dinner as she was on a strict diet.....What do I get at the end of the day? Perhaps a "Thank You" will be very much appreciated but I guess not.......

[verisio]

I dun think women were meant to be understood. They are like a wave. Ride them when they are high. When they crash, just move out of the way and be a silent passive pillar of support. Trying to actively solve her problems will only make things worse. We men just have to accept it that way.

I could never understand the way women make important decisions. This is a personal case of mine. A close female fren of mine got involved with a guy, went out fine.. she got pregnant, she wanted to keep the baby. The guy couldn't take it, abandoned her and cut contact. My fren is raising the child now. She's in her early 30's, child is presently 2 months old. A joy to look at considering the way he came about.

Here's more details, which really disturbs me how things could turn out this way:
- She's quite a high-flyer. She runs her own company. Very much better off compared to the guy. She didn't mind him, but he couldn't stand it most of the time that she's better off. Which is not really wrong because most guys need to be strong, better than their female counterparts (it's in our genes)
- She's attractive and outgoing. He's not that great looking n rather introvert.
- In all aspects, she was much better than him but she was still attracted to the guy. (which is still fine with me, love can't be explained)

BUT, she got herself pregnant, and the spineless and irresponsible guy didn't want to take charge and marry her. Also good lah, he wun be able to take it for life that she's much better than him.

I was sort of chasing her also coz I could communicate so well with her even though i'm younger than her by a few yrs. This was about 1 yr ago. After a while, I knew she was spending more time with that useless dick, so I gave way n respected her wishes. N suddenly I receive news that she was pregnant, the guy dumped her and she's distraught.

I was speechless, I dunno what to say. She's not only my close fren, but someone I was emotionally close to. I dare to say at a young age in my mid 20's despite meeting many women, she was the 1 woman whom I could connect the most emotionally with. Thoughts were racing in my mind - why did she do it? I still stood by her and gave her moral support, calling her once in a while to check with her.

She has moved out of staying with her family. Rented a house by herself. I check in on her regularly. Call her often, visit her little baby. Somehow, i'm no longer attracted to her. But she's still my dear fren. I alwaz hope she'll find a good man who can take care of her and accept her past.

Irrational, illogical, ridiculous, insane, love, passion, crazy? I dunno. I wun bother to figure it out coz I can't and it wun be possible. I dun even harp on the past with her. I just encourage her to focus on her future, her career and her pride of joy.

Women were nvr meant to be understood. Take the illogical and irrational approach with them. That's why nice guys always finish last coz they think in terms of rational thinking methods which girls find boring, but hey it could be good for them. I gave up my Mr Nice guy ways..

I walk the route of Mr Nice Jerk
as the saying goes - nan ren bu huai, nu ren bu ai. To our non-chinese frens, it means if the guy is not bad, the girl wun like. So true.. so true.. lol.

[Kyser Soze]

Originally Posted by verisio

Women were nvr meant to be understood. Take the illogical and irrational approach with them. That's why nice guys always finish last coz they think in terms of rational thinking methods which girls find boring, but hey it could be good for them. I gave up my Mr Nice guy ways..

I walk the route of Mr Nice Jerk.
as the saying goes - nan ren bu huai, nu ren bu ai. To our non-chinese frens, it means if the guy is not bad, the girl wun like. So true.. so true.. lol.

Like you, I'm also taking 'the route of Mr Nice Jerk'. What's the point being the nice guy when people wouldn't give you a damn? Now I dread trying to woo a girl now. The harder I try making things better, the more disappointed I become. Apart from woman, there are a lot of things to focus on. For instance, career, family and money. Bro, it's time to move on. The grass is always greener up front.

[_AXL_]

Originally Posted by OceanEleven

Never knew than I am gonna unleashed the lighter side of you by that post. Anyway more than often we are still walking on tight rope when we talk about them. Honestly we do have to shoulder part of the blame as well for we are so keen to bring out the megawatt smile in them, for we love them so much so that we rather pinch on boozing than pinching on them. Hopefully one day we will all get appreciated.

bro oceaneleven, sorry for the late reply but u hit the nail square on the head with your post. never really seen a post which i have experienced every single statement/point personally. wished i could put my angst in words as well as yr contribution, regardless whether u wrote them or cut and paste from somewhere else.

another nail to the head about us trying to bring that megawatt smile in them. what is it with us and their megawatt smile, die die must break our bank account just to see? think u r right, nothing wrong with them, the problem lies with us!!! we better stop blaming them and take a look at ourselves. we r delusional :- thinking that they would appreciate us lah!!!

but luckily, i dont have to pinch on my boozing nowadays, cos i found a woman who stopped me from buying a diamond bangle for her today but still showed me the megawatt smile for washing the dishes after dinner.

[_AXL_]

Originally Posted by verisio

I walk the route of Mr Nice Jerk
as the saying goes - nan ren bu huai, nu ren bu ai. To our non-chinese frens, it means if the guy is not bad, the girl wun like. So true.. so true.. lol.

nan ren bu huai, nu ren bu ai. the next line is:
nan ren yue huai, nu ren yue ai.

to our non-chinese frens, it means the worse the guy gets, the more the woman loves the man...

but bro verisio, can u live with people saying that u r in the same mould as the bastard who left yr pregnant fren to fend on her own? he was nice, then he is a jerk. so he is also a nice jerk in a way. society (condemnation) and nature (STD, HIV, so must wear condom!) will find a way to curb the population of such "nice jerks" so as to keep the balance and not cause chaos. otherwise, every other guy would be running all over the place sowing their wild oats and impregnating every single woman they come across, yours truly included.

u would be surprised how ruthless u have to be to qualify as a jerk, not every guy has the heart to be one. try impregnating yr gf/fling/fcuk buddy/ONS and have them coming to your doorstep, knock on your door, crying and asking u to take her back!!! see if u have the heart to turn a crying woman away. that's why, my fren, women rule the universe.

just my worthless thoughts.

[mptan]

For me, gers are just like a hamper. During courtship, they are like a beautiful hamper, not open yet. After married, it is just like an opened hamper, nothing much things inside leh, also, not beautiful one leh.

[mptan]

But at the end of the day, when we need help or somebody that we can trust, they are the one that is beside us and never play us out. That is the beauty of it.