Tieng Viet lovers club

[lovesprout]

Originally Posted by ilovedoggie

O cho lam cua e ne e ngoi ban nhung muon di ngoi them ban no chuoi e doi thue nguoi danh em do

At working place, I sit a table, and want to have more table. He cursed me saying "later I will hire people to hit you."

[ilovedoggie]

Originally Posted by lovesprout

At working place, I sit a table, and want to have more table. He cursed me saying "later I will hire people to hit you."

bro... u r the king! your translation makes sense perfectly! cam on anh!

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by jackbl

I will find 1 "20多岁的越南美女" teach u chinese

how long will you need to find one to teach me?

Originally Posted by vietboy

Expected this from u.

I swear I dunno how to read alot of the chinese words in that post so I dunno what the hack is about

[ilovedoggie]

Originally Posted by jackbl

晚报昨日报道,20多岁的越南美女疑中降头,星期五中午在四马路观音庙大闹2小时后,被带去金隆大厦获5名 师傅接力解降,当众吐出一滩黑水和肉芽状的神秘物。

wait wait wait! a few days ago we saw one vb KKDD at your HG right???

[jackbl]

Vietnamese readers’ rage at holiday rip-off
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After several reports of foreign tourists being overcharged in Vietnam, we have received enormous responses from local readers. Those who responded to Tuoi Tre expressed anger on the current rip-off situation and their worries for Vietnam tourism.

Many of them told stories where they have witnessed or fallen victim themselves. since hotels, small businesses and vendors have various ways of earning extra money from tourists.

“At Sam Son, the northern province of Thanh Hoa, I could bargain for a coconut and lower the price from VND70,000 ($3.5) to VND40,000 ($2). But when I bought three, I ended up paying VND180,000. The vendor explained the coconut I had bargained for was VND40,000 but the other two still cost VND70,000 each! I had to pay otherwise I’d have been in trouble, since there was no one to protect tourists,” recalled Anh Nguyen.

“I am Vietnamese but was also overcharged when I travelled to Mui Ne. I was asked to pay VND3 million (US$150) at a guest house in Mui Ne, when the real price was only VND800,000 ($40), ” wrote reader huyenlua.

Some locals are put off by the current high number of scams, and decided to travel overseas to avoid any possible problems.

“I am a 50 year old but haven’t seen much of the country. After going overseas for vacation, I don’t feel like traveling in Vietnam anymore due to bad tourism quality, service, hygiene and security,” said reader Taimkp.

How long can this issue last in Vietham? Readers Ngo Mai and Nguyen Long believe that overcharging tourists, both international and local, is a cultural trait that has existed in the mentality of many Vietnamese sellers.

“Ripping a person off is a sign of bad lifestyle and business habits in Vietnamese society. Some mandarins pester the people, and then people pester each other. It creates an endless cycle in the culture, degrading the country’s reliability to locals and foreigners,” found Ngo Mai.

“For years, people have thought that because they are poor they have a right to rip off foreign tourists from developed countries. It is important to make sure locals don’t concentrate on instant benefits but on the long term advantages from tourism,” wrote Nguyen Long.

Indeed, some of the short- minded vendors who only think about making an instant profit from overcharging tourists are to blame because they have indirectly contributed to a bad image of Vietnamese tourism, making the country no longer an attractive destination to tourists and investors.

“Two years ago, some foreign friends and I intended to invest in tourism and hospitality in Vietnam. However, when they visited the country, they were disappointed by the local attitude to foreign tourists. They conclude that Vietnamese tourism is only suitable for “low level” tourists. I later came to understand that they stopped investing because they realized that the locals are not aware of the long term benefits that foreign tourists and the tourism industry bring,” shared Viet Phong.

“Cases reported in Tuoi Tre articles are no exceptions. Tourism companies need to protect visitors by suggesting solutions to protect the Vietnamese image and people’s behaviors. Authorities then need to get involved by implementing educative and legal measures. Do not just think about instant benefits for locals and forfeit the comfort of visitors to our country, “ said Dai Quang.

A survey in 2009 shows that 95 percent don't come back again and the main reason cited being the constant overcharging and scamming they encounter on their travels. If the situation is not resolved completely, what will happen to the fate of Vietnamese tourism in the next 10 years?

[jackbl]

Another apps I used in my iPhone for translation is Tu Dien Lacviet.

[jackbl]

Daylight robbers prey on tourists in Vung Tau
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Your correspondents penetrated restaurants and eateries in the tourism city of Vung Tau to witness their techniques of ripping off tourists using a myriad of tricks.

On the morning of February 2, three tourists visiting from Ho Chi Minh City were brought to Nhu Y eatery at 306 Phan Chu Trinh by a broker.

Duc,the man in charge of introducing the menu and collecting orders from customers, persuaded the three to choose “a small hotpot with a few grams of lobsters and crabs,” while initially the customers only wanted to order fried rice dishes.

The three customers agreed, and were an hour later shocked to see the bill charge them nearly VND3.1 million (roughly US$150) for the “small fresh seafood meal.”

Duc, who lured the customers into the trap, had already fled.

“A man told us that only a few grams of lobster and crab would be used in the hotpot, but why does the bill say there were 1.6 kg of crab, and nearly 1 kg of lobster?” one of the customers objected.

In response, the eatery employees and manager replied with a circular argument. The three tourists then had no choice but clear the bill, and leave.

Van, the cook at Nhu Y, said: “Duc is really an hustler in Vung Tau.”

“Foreign tourists are Duc’s favorite prey, then come those from HCMC.”



Weigh-adding scales

Your correspondents discovered that Nhu Y eatery used a weight-adding scale to rob customers.

The scale is put near the seafood tank, for customers to check the food weights. However, whenever seafood is put on the scale, its weight will automatically increase by 300g.

On February 5, Huong, the eatery owner, caught two lobsters from the tank, put them on the scale, and told the customers that they weighed 750g.

With the lobster costing VND1.3 million ($62) a kg, the customers had to pay VND975,000, and were thus robbed of VND390,000 for the 300-g “virtual weight.”

“Suspicious customers may ask to put the seafood on a scale to check, but either way, they will always be cheated,” said Van the cook.



Pawn phones to pay eatery

Meanwhile, Hung Phat 2 eatery at 189 Hoang Hoa Tham Street has a more sophisticated scam arranged to rob customers.

Hoa, the woman collecting orders, invites customers to eat the mixture or Thai hotpots, which cost only VND100,000 ($5). The hotpot, however, is accompanied by a dish of seafood, which costs an exorbitant price.

On February 7, a broker took Phan Duc Tien, from HCMC, and his family to Hung Phat 2 for lunch, where Hoa persuaded them to eat hotpot.

The waiters later brought out a hotpot with four lobsters, and a dish of cuttlefish.

Upon finishing the lunch, Tien was astonished to learn that he would have to pay VND1.2 million ($57.6) for the meal.

As the two parties got into a heated quarrel, one waiter turned the music to a maximum level to drown out the noise of arguing.

The customers could do nothing but pay and leave.

“No matter how angry they get, they still have to pay in the end,” Hoa said.

On February 5, a group of high school students in HCMC’s Thu Duc District had to pawn one of their cell phones in order to have enough money to pay VND2.8 million ($135) for their lunch at Hung Phat 2.



Huge assistance from the brokers

Contributing a great deal in the daylight robbery of customers by eateries in Vung Tau is a large number of brokers.

Several dozens of brokers drive motorbikes around the city to scatter the eateries’ leaflets, or lure customers to the eateries, to earn the commission of 20-30 percent of the amount the restaurants rip the customers off.

The brokers can also be taxi drivers who drive directly to the eating houses they have colluded with whenever their customers ask for a place to eat.

“A broker can earn more than VND1 million ($50) a day, and even more during the holidays,” said Hai, manager of Hung Phat 2.

Meanwhile, Huong, owner of Nhu Y, said she is willing to pay 20 percent of the total bill for brokers using motorbikes.

“If customers spend VND10 million on their meal, broker will receive VND2 million,” she said, adding that brokers who are taxi drivers receive even higher commissions.

On the morning of February 2, Phong, a broker, followed a 12-seat bus, and managed to throw a leaflet into the driver’s seat. That evening, the driver took the group of nearly 10 customers to Hung Phat 2.

This is enough for Phong to pocket VND1.7 million ($82) for brokerage.

“There are days when I earn as much as VND4 million,” Phong said.

“Though I have been constantly complained about and cursed, I can reap lucrative profits doing this ‘job’.”

[jackbl]

Vietnam needs tourism police
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In many countries, beggars and swindling sellers exist but no one clings to tourists, asks with insistence or threatens them until they buy like in Vietnam. This problem has been present at several tourist attractions for a long time and has become a trait of tourism in Vietnam.

Local authorities have seen the harm it does to the tourism industry, and have tried to prevent and terminate it but everything goes back to usual after a short time. The Vietnamese National Administration of Tourism and local tourism sectors have held several conferences to discuss causes and seek resolutions to the problem but an effective remedy has yet to be found.

Hoi An authorities used to do very well in controlling vendors and preventing them from following and ripping off tourists. Consequently, those travelling to the Old Town felt very secure and comfortable. However, when supervision became lax, the problem returned.
Ho Chi Minh City offers security guards to protect tourists but they are neither supported by the city’s laws nor equipped with the adequate tools to settle troubles. Although seeing a crowd of hawkers besieging tourists and forcing them to buy, guards standing nearby cannot do much.

Thailand has a force of tourism police who take records, act in emergency cases to protect tourists and ensure security and safety. As a part of the police department, they have rights and tools to repress and handle violations. Due to clear policies, Thai police can fine beggars or sellers, take them to jail or sue them in court. They also can issue heavy penalties to tour guides who do not wear a certified card.

In my opinion, Vietnam needs tourism police to remedy the clinging, begging and rip offs. The force can be set up from local criminal police and they can receive an extra salary under a form of tourism development fund contributed to by tourism companies.
I think it’s time we put an end to the situation that has been maintained for a long time throughout the country. The Ministry of Public and Security, the Ministry of culture, sports and tourism, the Vietnam National Administration of Tourism should join forces and solve this problem completely.

Nguyen Quoc Ky (General Director at Vietravel)

[jackbl]

Originally Posted by vietboy

Wa, jack kor kor throw a bomb at me.

big # little // large # small // short # tall/long // fast # slow // hot # cold // good # bad // old # new/young // pretty # ugly //

fat # thin/skinny // happy # sad // full # empty // dark # light // funny # serious // interesting # boring // cheap # expensive //

high # low // deep # shallow // healthy # sick/ill // rich # poor // soft # hard // easy # difficult // clean # dirty // safe # dangerous //

same # different // early # late // strong # weak // top # bottom


beautiful ,nice // handsome // hungry // thirsty // tired // busy // free // great // friendly // favorite //



How's the progress???

[jackbl]

Originally Posted by jackbl

Another apps I used in my iPhone for translation is Tu Dien Lacviet.

Apps in Iphone that I used for translation and dictionary
1. Tu Dien Lac Viet
2. Lonely Planet phasebooks - Vietnamese, with 3500-word two way dictionary
3. iTranslate
4. WordPower

[jackbl]

Anyone interested to learn vietnamese thru tuition can try this : http://www.olx.com.sg/q/vietnamese/c-279

[ilovedoggie]

Originally Posted by jackbl

Anyone interested to learn vietnamese thru tuition can try this : http://www.olx.com.sg/q/vietnamese/c-279

Troi oi... Co giao do dep ne

[vietboy]

Originally Posted by ilovedoggie

Troi oi... Co giao do dep ne

O dau co? U mean Ly?

[jackbl]

Originally Posted by vietboy

O dau co? U mean Ly?

Nnkc ask u to do translate u quiet quiet. Talk about Dep Vb u appear.

[ilovedoggie]

Originally Posted by jackbl

Nnkc ask u to do translate u quiet quiet. Talk about Dep Vb u appear.

anh a... u also ne... ask u go steambath to stimulate your cu blood circulation u dun wan... when got vb then u go :P