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I know of lazy ppl, and I also know ppl who work 2 jobs to make ends meet. I am speaking from my experience and I do not claim that I know everything, I am only saying when someone quotes 12,000 as the average grad's pay, it does not commensurate with the salaries of my grad friends who has been working for some years - from Koh Samui to Phuket, from BKK to Undonthani, to Kohn Kaen, from Lampang to Lampun, not forgetting CM and CR too. But I also wondered why do you get so upset? Unless perhaps those numbers come from ...... How long have some of my friends been searching for jobs while holding something they hope to be just temp work to tide them over? Lets say a couple of months. As for whether I can understand/empathize with another in feeling the strain, I am sorry it is not for you to say, First you are not me and you do not know what I know, nor do you feel what I feel. And you dun even know what I had in mind. I did not claim to understand all cases, only those I know and am close to. And to some extend even help to beaar some load. How do you know I do not understand what the parents are feeling? How do you know if the parents understand what burden their child is carrying? Do read carefully and dun jump to conclusions, for I am sure u can do better. I am asking questions for us to think about and consider, yes based on the several cases I see and experienced for myself. Want to know reality? Well I am presenting the small portion that I see. I have never tried to present my case studies as Majority. And due to the context of this post. there was no need to talk about those who found good jobs with good pay. How to write everything down? I never said they don't exist. If it bugs u that much, why dun u present those majority of cases that you know and better still personally encountered. After all, u live there - u can definitely present a wider perspective. Simply "attacking" what I presented (as per what I personally encountered) dun help anybody, and I dun think you are doing it simply to boost yr ego, right? Dun think you need that! You seemed to enjoy telling ppl what to do, right down to how many kids they ought to have, if they should even get married. And maybe to do it ur way? That is your perogative. I am not in postion to tell these parents what to do. They are already married and had their kids when I knew them. Nothing I say will ever make a difference. Has this got to do with the woes of the tirak, yes it does. It helps to put in perspective that for every one WL/FL who had a choice (given her education and opportunities available to her to earn a decent pay with decent job), there are many others who had no choice given the burden they feel that had to bear - parents, sibilings and kids even. Perhaps they had a choice - it is called a Hobson;s choice; iof they feel for the sinlings and parents and realised there is something they, with their limited capabilities could do. Whether their logic is correct or not (morally or otherwise), is not for me nor you to say. I have had the opportunity to "pump" my stomach full with tap water during school recess (as a growing child) cos I had no money to buy food for a large portion of my primary school days cos my parents were not making enough. Was my dad lazy and bad? Heck no. He does not drink, gamble nor cheong. Nor does he have the luxury of taking MCs or vacation. He only rested one day a year on CNY day. Perhaps I can feel more cos of what I went thru. Painting a picture that all is not well in LOS? That is the last thing I would do. If anything I think the economic atmosphere is more exciting then here and I want to be part of it. And hopefully contribute economically and not just live off the land.
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Then take a reasonable guessimate of these ordinaru grads and consider the those with little or no education and we get a better picture why some of them became FLs/WLs. Not all have real feasible choices, much as we like to think they do. Those cute gals at 7/11 that I often talked to, some make 3k-4k, same as many store helpers along the streets. I had the opportunity to consider hiring a shop assistant for 3k baht. Not much to live on, really.
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in all my yrs of cheonging, i've experienced enough to flood the international flesh trade column also, bt i reckon its senseless to post that sorta FR. compared to all those WL/FL on foreign turf...wanna compare the agendas/hidden autobiography of the gals. TG working in GL n in their places of "sexual" interest (back in LOS) r by far doing it out of fillial piety...integrity to family beyond self. materialism is only a small objective, in any given case - secondary or tertiary issues in their priorities. (the sacrifice is for a greater love & a greater cause) nothing i post here can change the way u choose to see things, nonetheless...i'm not advocating that all tiraks here r guaranteed 'happily ever-after' tirakships/marriages. figuratively speaking, the fundamentals in rship applies across the board-regardless wat nationality ur spouse-to-be may be, gals will be gals. if the man dunno hw to be the man... be it rship or tirakship... (mark my words) its doomed for failure.
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its just unfortunate that many posts here have tendency to be-little the WLs/FLs/TGs which can be quite a disturbing issue. i dont see any reason or rationale for us sad fucks to be so pompous n biased against a trade that we subscribe to, much less to say... many even condemn the sorry souls who've resigned to their unfortunate fate, in hope to provide/support their families, in that the family members/siblings may become better equipped n realize their dreams in the next lap. some say its senseless for anyone to be working in this insulting job for a quick solution. then i say its just as sad for our fellow singaporeans to be queueing religiously at singaporepools to place their miserable bets (hoping for a quick solution). WLs work for that solution, betting punters invest in hopeless resolutions. should the amount of cummulative bets be set aside for biz/investments, top it up w a lil more effort n positive attitude...many would've hit jackpot already. or if not, for a greater cause, that $ could've gone into financing n creating/upgrading a 3rd world society - so some1 mentioned in the recent posts. it dawned upon me that alota failed tirakships r very much due to their failure to see the bigger pic, henceforth the eyes r only keen on picking out the minute flaws in the gals. experience some minor glitch n friction, cry-babies start crying foul-play, feel sore, give up on the gal n start flaming. that being the case, which substantiated my post about the "fish pond" post somedays back. i dun see the need in spelling everything out clearly n spoon feeding to the rest. TV, u're probably experienced enough to profess as a marriage councellor ya? chip in if u must.. a lil 2cts here n there will go a long long way. kudos!
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爱一生中不多不少,会有一次不得了,其实没人比我知道 你就是我的不能不要。如果黑夜太难熬,我陪你日夜颠倒,爱一场该付出多少-因为你我不计较。
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damn jialat.. ppl taking things for granted, not appreciative...yet still can turn around n look down on those who suffer for a greater cause. sigh..
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爱一生中不多不少,会有一次不得了,其实没人比我知道 你就是我的不能不要。如果黑夜太难熬,我陪你日夜颠倒,爱一场该付出多少-因为你我不计较。
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Also, my offer for the position still stands lah... ur friend no car but can speak english also can try lah. Eh.. no need SUPER good english ok? aiyo, but no need tell me "sorry my friends are simple people, english no good" or stuffs like that ok? Interested, u PM me lah.. See lah.. u make me side track for this thread already lah! Lets talk about woes of so-called "tiraks" lah.... or u open another thread somewhere titled "woes of Khon Thai" and i'll go join u there lah... cheers |
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And Mr Suteerak.. i'm not picking on u leh... pls help me point out which part of ALL my postings did i ever say i look down on WL/FL?? Aiyo... how many times must i make myself clear? I raised my opinion only because u compare WL/FL jobs to normal jobs lah... boey tahan.. a whore is a whore.. a flight attendant is a flight attendant lah. I think huh.. Mr Suteerak.. i read the very very first post of ur thread.. at first u very humble and can even take criticism when someone jokes that u don't even understand the word "tirak" and somemore wanna use a Thai nick.. u still "hum hum" reply and apologise.. now u start using wat "limbei" lah.. what "frog in the well" lah.. then all arguments must win wan... pls lah.. who is frog in well lah? who is living a good life and no chance to go rural area lah? Aiyo... u don't know me, i don't know u.. u don't know where i stay, u don't know what i do and u don't know the people i meet here lah.. i stay where, u stay where? Who got better position to comment about living in Thailand leh? Aiyo.... boey tahan.... peace out lah... long time never use so many "lah" already... |
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aspiration for better hopes n brighter future is definately in my agenda, n if God-willing, i'd be glad to share it w her n her entire household when the time comes. nothing wrong in being compassionate, nothing wrong in being magnanimous... that being the case... danger & risk is nothing but a small issue to be dealt with. (he who laughs last... laughs best) i dont expect ppl to applaud my efforts cos my love & compassion is for those who appreciate to experience... definately not some charity fund raising comedy where celebrities shed tears, n selfish ppl suddenly become so selfless/generous to donate that miserable amount to finance organizations that may misappropriate the funds. *just a gentle note - if wanna do good/charitable deeds (be it out of love/good-will/sympathy/redeem sins etc) go and give directly to the beneficiaree...no need to spell out the amount in the cheque so the world can or-loh u back to issue on tirakship: love is unconditional, if expectations is put in the equation... then anything/everything ongoing in the rship/tirakship is no different from a transaction/barter trading. will there ever be an embargo? its up to the genuine hearts to make that call. do not be afraid to love/give, bcos where there's love... u'd find that joy in giving. if there's no expectations in the equation...when she gives in return, it shall be something priceless-not even the world can replace.
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爱一生中不多不少,会有一次不得了,其实没人比我知道 你就是我的不能不要。如果黑夜太难熬,我陪你日夜颠倒,爱一场该付出多少-因为你我不计较。
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haha, u indeed opened a can of worms. Obviously some ppl dun read full sentences these days. "can someone step forward and oppose this case" becomes "can someone step forward and oppose" so they heroiclly answered the call of duty w/o even understanding the purpose of the article they are opposing. Really they are simply opposing the writer, not the holistic objectives of the author. As a matter of fact, the very intent of your post above is probably lost. Only the words highlighted in black here was read (but perhaps not understood), and not for the 1st time too. When one does a paragraph by paragraph attempt to "analyse" things, one often loses the objective of the whole, and dun differentiate the trees from the forest. Often the whole is greater than sum of the parts. Wonder how many will understand that.
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Relax lah. Don't think the essays will get any shorter. Remember the good old army days to ward off enemy: signal left but turn right. keke hoodlum
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1. no using of abusive language or unnessary name calling, 'numbskull' for instance by the treadstarter on Singrathai 2. Don't generalised lah; 'idiots by the Singapore education...', 'lumping service jobs as no different from WL', 'all womanfolks are whores' and more Especially for point 2, the treadstarter has a tendency of deviating and making porous sweeping generalisations that often don't add value to his tread objectives but further alienate readers/posters from such baseless swipes. Let's have a healthy exchange of perspectives hoodlum
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u still cant make out the difference of wat i meant in mentioning the term "in principles", so there's no pt in me trying to teach or better ur english here. FYI, my thai frens can understand my level of english n r eager/humble learners unlike some here who think they know bt dont know. *SRT: no i havent taken any of yr comments personally. u're just as entitled to ur opinions, just as any of us here. reason y it seems my posts r argumentative is particularly bcos, many correspondent posts here display pompous atttitutes and be-littling of the unfortunate ones who dont deserve it. hope this helps to clear the air for u... how the contents have somehow veered towards the culture/background/plight of the WLs/FLs is with intent that the aspiring tiraks here must 1st come to terms with. cos they can claim they love this WL/TG/FL/ka-toey, can forget their past in the flesh trade etc... without even realising that its a whole different world over there. some back out due to culture shock, many unprepared for their level of comforts (which in some cases to us... is living hell). at this pt, i shall apologize if i've created unnecessary woes on top of the existing woes for those in the tirakship. bt the truth always hurts, n its all important for us all to see/realize wat lies ahead, instead of just popping champagnes, getting drunk before the banquet has even started.
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爱一生中不多不少,会有一次不得了,其实没人比我知道 你就是我的不能不要。如果黑夜太难熬,我陪你日夜颠倒,爱一场该付出多少-因为你我不计较。
a beauty; a blessing... a pauper; a curse... a beautiful impecunious; not sure if its a blessing or a curse |
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Wah.... now all the essay are getting longer and longer........
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a beauty; a blessing... a pauper; a curse... a beautiful impecunious; not sure if its a blessing or a curse |
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