Middle class Singaporean no more.....Sigh

[MoJoe313]

Originally Posted by BMW69

Are you sure that each cancer case cost S$75,000 (and up, I assume) to treat? For any type of cancer in any ward?

Please investigate yourself. Don't take my words for it. Like I said to you before, C class is higher subsidy for beds only. You still have to pay for a surgeon. Cost of surgeon is separate from cost of beds. If you cannot afford surgery, then you have to opt for other treatments like radiation or chemo. Cannot afford chemo pills, then go for physical chemo. There are varying treatment methods with lower success rate. Only when one goes through it, then one understands how the game is played.

If it so easy as just going C class ward to solve everything, Khaw Boon Wan will not tell you to buy medical insurance.

[sean69]

Originally Posted by BMW69

Haha you sure you want to drive a Maserati? It is as reliable as (or less reliable than) a Chery QQ.

And if you want to fly First Class "cheap" (unfortunately not SIA)... PM me and I can help you.

at least it looks better than a QQ !!! hahahahahaha

[DieCorkStand]

Originally Posted by ludwig19

So by voting 'wisely', the cost of chilli crab will come down and i suddenly can stay in a nice condo instead of my pigsty of a 5rm flat? Haha ��

Yes you are right if you vote them out, all price will be very cheap including your pay if you think there is still job around

All investor will be gone lost confidence in SG becoz just some people living beyond their means and lay blame others for their own incompetency.

You don have to vote wisely, just migrate to JKT or KL and you can feel the same result if you vote them out ...

That's y silly poerans don no they are so lucky, you are where you are now for SG gov if not your are probably like those Bangladesh workers and your wife a maid ...

But I doubt you understand what I am talking

[AAdam]

Originally Posted by MoJoe313

This is why there is misunderstanding. People are saying I should not complain because there are worse off people who can't even afford hawker food. Of course I know there are people worst off! I am saying I agree with their woes wholeheartedly.

It is like saying, You can pay for hawker food so "Diam lah, what about me, I can't". So that person who can pay for hawker food should also Diam lah when there is someone who can't buy shoes? So, only the poorest person in this country have a right to complain? The rest should just Diam lah. Does this logic make sense?

Btw, what medical bills have you paid? Inpatient or outpatient? What ailments? Do you find them cheap?

You did not answer my question. You said that medical bills of $75K for Cancer is high. High as compared to what?

[BMW69]

Originally Posted by MoJoe313

Please investigate yourself. Don't take my words for it. Like I said to you before, C class is higher subsidy for beds only. You still have to pay for a surgeon. Cost of surgeon is separate from cost of beds. If you cannot afford surgery, then you have to opt for other treatments like radiation or chemo. Cannot afford chemo pills, then go for physical chemo. There are varying treatment methods with lower success rate. Only when one goes through it, then one understands how the game is played.

If it so easy as just going C class ward to solve everything, Khaw Boon Wan will not tell you to buy medical insurance.

Please take a look at the cost of Brest lump removal + biopsy.
As per the MOH website

From 108 cases in SGH, the average length of stay is 1.5 days and the 90th percentile of bill sizes was $2241. The 90th percentile cost for a day surgery in SGH $1388 (from a sample size of 185).

I did my homework. That's why I dare to challenge your figure of $75,000.

[BMW69]

Originally Posted by sean69

at least it looks better than a QQ !!! hahahahahaha

The QQ is cute. not that I would go near one with a long stick.

[BMW69]

And sugery for Lung Cancer

The average length of stay at SGH is 3.7 days for both B2 and C wards. However, the price difference for the 90th percentile between B2 and C wards is $1551.

That shows that the subsidy for class B2 and C wards extends beyond just the cost of the ward ($35 per night difference).

[MoJoe313]

Originally Posted by BMW69

Please take a look at the cost of Brest lump removal + biopsy.
As per the MOH website

From 108 cases in SGH, the average length of stay is 1.5 days and the 90th percentile of bill sizes was $2241. The 90th percentile cost for a day surgery in SGH $1388 (from a sample size of 185).

I did my homework. That's why I dare to challenge your figure of $75,000.

Read this.

Admission for lung cancer; with complications and/or comorbidities (excludes surgical treatment)

https://www.moh.gov.sg/content/moh_w...lications.html

[antimatter]

Originally Posted by AAdam

You did not answer my question. You said that medical bills of $75K for Cancer is high. High as compared to what?

he will never answer one la.

[antimatter]

Originally Posted by BMW69

And sugery for Lung Cancer

The average length of stay at SGH is 3.7 days for both B2 and C wards. However, the price difference for the 90th percentile between B2 and C wards is $1551.

That shows that the subsidy for class B2 and C wards extends beyond just the cost of the ward ($35 per night difference).

you nail it bro. it explains all.

If it really only subsidies for bed, it will only be $140 cheaper.

[BMW69]

Originally Posted by MoJoe313

Read this.

Admission for lung cancer; with complications and/or comorbidities (excludes surgical treatment)

https://www.moh.gov.sg/content/moh_w...lications.html

Look at the one without complications. Look at the cost of PRIVATE surgery. The 90th percentile is only $6088. If you go to SGH and stay in a class C ward, you will definitely benefit from subsidized surgery.

Besides, my question initially (the one you chose to quote) was

Originally Posted by BMW69

Are you sure that each cancer case cost S$75,000 (and up, I assume) to treat? For any type of cancer in any ward?

[antimatter]

Originally Posted by AAdam

I beg to differ...Cash rich is certainly whether is it $1MM or $500K. Whether cost of living will bleed his reserves or not will depend on individuals and is very subjective and relative.

agree with you.

Unlike someone, the cost of living has moved from chilli crabs & durians, to treatment of cancer.

[AAdam]

Originally Posted by MoJoe313

Please investigate yourself. Don't take my words for it. Like I said to you before, C class is higher subsidy for beds only. You still have to pay for a surgeon. Cost of surgeon is separate from cost of beds. If you cannot afford surgery, then you have to opt for other treatments like radiation or chemo. Cannot afford chemo pills, then go for physical chemo. There are varying treatment methods with lower success rate. Only when one goes through it, then one understands how the game is played.

If it so easy as just going C class ward to solve everything, Khaw Boon Wan will not tell you to buy medical insurance.

Please verify and validate your facts regarding Subsidy. How on earth will subsidy be based on beds only? Based on the totality of a hospital bill, bed charges constitute only minimal percentage. Honestly, this is the first time I heard that one dont do the appropriate treatment due to financial reasons....Come on, please verify and validate your facts.

I have been through once and is now presently going through now.

[antimatter]

Originally Posted by BMW69

Look at the one without complications. Look at the cost of PRIVATE surgery. The 90th percentile is only $6088. If you go to SGH and stay in a class C ward, you will definitely benefit from subsidized surgery.

Besides, my question initially (the one you chose to quote) was

bro, he sure find ways to twist and turn his "original answer" one.

till now someone still yet to answer how much exactly is his 15 years of buffer.

[antimatter]

the joker really sometime, he just prove time & time again, he can always get someone to question him back.

always talk half, don't talk half, after I left yesterday, he manages to find other kakis to argue today. haha.