woes of a tirak

[suteerak1099]

wowow! its only been 2-3 days n we've now got some correspondence...very good! keep the thread alive!! having read some of the posts here, i reckon there's certainly some similarity in our respective cases.

here's my story: it 1st started out as casual visits to the WL (now tirak). exchanged contact numbers bt never really called her much. bt on the other hand, she called several times check on me - where i am, who i'm with, y never go home yet etc (everything except "y never come visit me") of cos, naturally w/o her having to request...would pop by to visit her once or twice a wk. even purposely send her fav snacks on her off days.

from short time progress to ON, sometimes adhog ON cos she complain there's a jerk book her that night, need me to go ON so she dun have to face the jerk - she'd be upset n describe the jerk's rough handling, touch her whole night so she cant sleep etc. naturally, after consoling/comforting her... emotions got the better of the situation, so we soon went out on mornings when she's not tired lor.

even on our outings, she never really made me pay for the purchases (relief! cos i didnt wanna be the ATM so early in the relationship) time passes quickly, we're together for some months liao. had a bit of bonus from my soccer bettings, so bought her some lingerie+jewellery for our anniversaries on consecutive months. meanwhile, was also learning thai in my own free time - bought lotsa thai CDs, movies & books to learn. didnt take too long for us to soon be conversing in thai. of cos mine's still quite broken, & slow to reply cos need time to think... can see she's appreciative of the effort - calls home (in my presence) to impress mom about me (dunno if its true but sounds realistic), and even used my address for postage to be sent here from her home. of cos running errands aint much to complain about - only goes to show that there's a certain level of trust lor

her hp was stolen some months back by a customer, n was very upset. i even went thru the trouble in calling & confronting the thief (pay $40 bt take home a hp worth hundreds!). knowing its no use to pursue, i bought her a new hp to pacify her...of cos 1st to be added in the contact list, but i know..there's bound to be more.

then again, its never all peaceful & no storm. there were times when we had minor stints on certain issues, but quickly resolved cos i explained i'm not in the trade & cant comprehend whats in her mind all the time. having listened she's less prone to flare up too.

lately, i've been very affected by the way she behaves towards me - put aeroplane when appointment is set to go out w me, decline my bookings etc. only consolation is she still call to confide n check on me.

only keeping my fingers crossed that she wont be showing me colors again when i visit.

i suppose u guys reading now should understand wat spurred me to start this thread in the 1st place ya? nonetheless, pls contribute by sharing ur treats & woes too.

"the greatest thing of all... is to love & be loved in return"

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by suteerak1099

lately, i've been very affected by the way she behaves towards me - put aeroplane when appointment is set to go out w me, decline my bookings etc. only consolation is she still call to confide n check on me.

only keeping my fingers crossed that she wont be showing me colors again when i visit.

i suppose u guys reading now should understand wat spurred me to start this thread in the 1st place ya? nonetheless, pls contribute by sharing ur treats & woes too.

Aeroplane? Hmmmm, then don't go out with her anymore lor.
Decline your bookings then don't book her.

She will call you to ask you why you never go booking. After a while they will think you never go because your money go to some other girl. Then they will start to panic and give you a call, so that your money will go to her. Because some girls like them play these kind of stunt, so one way to counter is to use this method.

And you can try asking her what is the relationship between both of you. See whats her answer. If she say you are not her tirak or boyfriend or whatever, then ask her why she ask you to call the thief when she lost her phone. Then ask her so since you r not bf, not tirak, you are just a customer. Since you are just a customer in her eyes, how about telling her that nothing between both of you, how about you going to her house and book another girl then?

Who need who more? She or you?
When you ask the above questions, you will realise that she need you more than you need her.

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[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by sex_maniac2

That time i won 4D 2nd prize then told my "tirak", she just say good lor, won 4D Wanted to have a good time with her using the winnings but since she no reaction, i also saved the money for future visit.

you think this girl good or not??

I think this girl no good. And I think you also no good.

1st, why tell her if you are not going to give her money? Make her song?
2nd, she cannot be bothered with you cos she knows your character that since you won and have extra cash, you didn't give her, she knows the money will be spent on other girls.

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Originally Posted by siamcutey

I think this girl no good. And I think you also no good.

1st, why tell her if you are not going to give her money? Make her song?
2nd, she cannot be bothered with you cos she knows your character that since you won and have extra cash, you didn't give her, she knows the money will be spent on other girls.

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Intersting perspective.

I told her because i thought she would be happy for me, to share my joy.
However, if she has been a bit more enthusiastic about my winning, I would have suggested to her that we go celebrate, shopping whatever. Anyway, i didnt win alot. Just thought I would use the money for my next 10 bookings.

Originally Posted by siamcutey

Who need who more? She or you?
When you ask the above questions, you will realise that she need you more than you need her.

I found out that this doesnt apply for me.

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by sex_maniac2

I found out that this doesnt apply for me.

Who say it doesn't?
It applies to every customer and every tirak of the girl. You never try you never know the answer and their reaction. Or is it you do not dare to try cos you are afraid to find the answer?

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Originally Posted by siamcutey

Who say it doesn't?
It applies to every customer and every tirak of the girl. You never try you never know the answer and their reaction. Or is it you do not dare to try cos you are afraid to find the answer?

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I tried liao. Never visit her for a month she also never ask me why or call me.
However, she did assume I went to look for other girls during my 1 month absence and seem concern. But then she could only be acting.

A lot of things apply to everybody else, but i would say it doesnt apply for me.

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by sex_maniac2

I tried liao. Never visit her for a month she also never ask me why or call me.
However, she did assume I went to look for other girls during my 1 month absence and seem concern. But then she could only be acting.

So i say it doesnt apply for me.

So you know she treat you like customer, then you just treat her as a service provider lor. Case closed. Nothing to say anymore on your part. THE END.

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Originally Posted by siamcutey

So you know she treat you like customer, then you just treat her as a service provider lor. Case closed. Nothing to say anymore on your part. THE END.

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I am not sure about that, that is why i still have things to say on my part. I know all i need to do is ask. We will see how it goes.

To be continued..........

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by sex_maniac2

I am not sure about that, that is why i still have things to say on my part. I know all i need to do is ask. We will see how it goes.

To be continued..........

U say you not getting emotionally involved, so even if she loves you, you not getting involved. So why ponder over it? Case closed again. THE END X2

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Originally Posted by siamcutey

U say you not getting emotionally involved, so even if she loves you, you not getting involved. So why ponder over it? Case closed again. THE END X2

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I not getting emotionally involved because I dont think she is, and hopefully she dont. If she truly loves me , then its a different story. But really, I dont see this happening. If i know how she feels, what she is thinking etc, then really case closed. Nothing to talk about liao, I have no more woes, so to speak.

[suteerak1099]

Originally Posted by sex_maniac2

I not getting emotionally involved because I dont think she is, and hopefully she dont. If she truly loves me , then its a different story. But really, I dont see this happening. If i know how she feels, what she is thinking etc, then really case closed. Nothing to talk about liao, I have no more woes, so to speak.

SM2...i'm quite confused on how u're expressing ur situation leh. on 1 hand u wan KC, on other hand dun wan KC. dun get me wrong...i just wanna get it clear so i can comprehend n offer my opinions.

i'm also having problems w my "tirak", as stated in my prev post. dun wanna realyl go down to details, cos when KC involved- really is like diving head 1st into cement mixer lor. all i know is..dun expect too much so less disappointment lor. best is being frank n honest la...so maybe u can check w her, have a gd heart to heart talk lor. no harm trying la.

bt remember... keep ur cool..jai yen yen.. jai yen yen.

Originally Posted by suteerak1099

SM2...i'm quite confused on how u're expressing ur situation leh. on 1 hand u wan KC, on other hand dun wan KC. dun get me wrong...i just wanna get it clear so i can comprehend n offer my opinions.

i'm also having problems w my "tirak", as stated in my prev post. dun wanna realyl go down to details, cos when KC involved- really is like diving head 1st into cement mixer lor. all i know is..dun expect too much so less disappointment lor. best is being frank n honest la...so maybe u can check w her, have a gd heart to heart talk lor. no harm trying la.

bt remember... keep ur cool..jai yen yen.. jai yen yen.

I am very confuse sometimes also.

The problem is i dont really know what she is thinking. 2 weeks ago supposed to go out with her. BUt then she got booking but she didnt call to tell me cancel appointment. So i told her my displeasure about not informing me. So last week she said want to go out again, then she got booking again the night before and she called to cancel appointment.

I was thinking, should I be happy that she remembered that we were supposed to go out but called to cancelled the appointment because she cant make it? Or should I be thinking she is just playing with my mind? Make appointments in advance (make me happy looking forward to it) then cancel it to make me dulan? Or is she lying cos she has more important appointments with her other tiraks? Is she playing mind games with me?

I know I can either believe her or I can keep on thinking whether she is playing mind games with me.

Sometimes I wanted to confront her, have a heart to heart talk and settle things once and for all. I am really not sure if I should do this. What if she lies to me and I believe her and then I fall deeper?? What if after the talk and she believe that i am really sincere about her and she really fall for me??

At the moment, I do not think I am her tirak at all cos she never bring up the subject of our "relationship". If she do not wish to talk about our relatiohship, I guess i shouldnt too???? Or is she waiting for me to bring up the subject????

[noobiedick]

Aiyo brother, people come here to make money. Not fall in love one lah. Why not put yourself in her shoes. She'll be thinking, "Sakaly I go out with this guy and cancel all my booking, then he suddenly disappear and all my hopes go down the drain. Who will feed my family?"

Treat them nice, if you're not serious about redeeming her, let her go lah and save her the heartache. The rule of the thumb is that no matter how much you think here and think there, you will never know if a relationship will work out unless you try it. (Works the same for all other relationship, WL/FL or not!)

[suteerak1099]

Originally Posted by sex_maniac2

I am very confuse sometimes also.

The problem is i dont really know what she is thinking. 2 weeks ago supposed to go out with her. BUt then she got booking but she didnt call to tell me cancel appointment. So i told her my displeasure about not informing me. So last week she said want to go out again, then she got booking again the night before and she called to cancel appointment.

I was thinking, should I be happy that she remembered that we were supposed to go out but called to cancelled the appointment because she cant make it? Or should I be thinking she is just playing with my mind? Make appointments in advance (make me happy looking forward to it) then cancel it to make me dulan? Or is she lying cos she has more important appointments with her other tiraks? Is she playing mind games with me?

SM2, i can totally understand wat u're going thru. mine bail out on my bookings (special days ie: starting from xmas straight thru till vday this yr)saying someone booked her at the last minute. she also cancelled out on our outings, cos got booking n the bastard wouldnt wake up till almost lunch. or had the cheek to lie n say she's sick, but in the end she was still working as per normal.

after confrontation, she'd suddenly be nice again n give more attention.. sweet talk n all at most for few days. its a routine i noticed. cos thats only possible, so that she can rotate n pamper her other regulars. so its all a cycle for them...otherwise, whole time pinning hopes on 1 "robert" wont be able to feed the family. unbelieveable..u may say, bt my fren n i have been up n down this roller coaster ride for nearly a yr... this routine is as routine as their monthly check-ups can be:: just be thankful that there'll be some slight variations from time to time - to spice up ur life.

now that my tirak's having her final countdown to ORD. she's been busy calling the other regulars except me. only time she calls is when she needs translation for sms. dunno wat to say lah... sigh...am i suppose to think she's being considerate for me to save up for flight to visit her hometown when she ORD? am i to think that she's trying to squeeze the last drops of $$ cash outta the patrons whove never treated her well enuff - feeling reproached for earning too much of my $? or is she desperately trying to earn more $ so she can afford to gimme a surprise bday gift?

it all remains a mystery. all i can say is.. if wanna fall in the 1st place.. dun complain later that u got aches n pains, cuts n bruises. just gotta look on the brighter side of things

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by suteerak1099

am i suppose to think she's being considerate for me to save up for flight to visit her hometown when she ORD? am i to think that she's trying to squeeze the last drops of $$ cash outta the patrons whove never treated her well enuff - feeling reproached for earning too much of my $? or is she desperately trying to earn more $ so she can afford to gimme a surprise bday gift?

Visit her hometown for what? You going to marry her? I never understand why people like to go to the thai girl's hometown. You see the parents, the family, the neighbours etc....but for what? Unless there is intention of settling down with her, I don't see the need to go to the girl's hometown.

1st thing I want to say is that communication with the thai girl is most important one should know. If you don't know how to speak their language, how to communicate with them. When you know their language, u can communicate more with them, hold deeper conversations, get to know them even more. But 1 thing is even if you know how to speak their language, sometimes you still don't quite understand them. Nevertheless, its still better than not knowing thai in the 1st place.

Don't lie to yourself. She need the money so thats why she is here in singapore in the 1st place. Not because she want to buy you a better present. How much can presents costs?

U do booking, other customers also do booking. Let me ask you 1 question. If you are the girl, and 2 person( 1 customer, 1 tirak) do booking at same time, who do you rather be with as both going to pay same amount of money?

Doesn't mean she pick your booking means she love you, or if she picks up the other customer's booking means she love him. But if the girl love you, she will not "TUA" you. She will give you another date and time.

Why they "TUA" you is because you are not that important to them.

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