Issue with ICA

[SureScore]

Originally Posted by Star3

They cannot suka suka write you love letters.
They have SOP to follow and these "standard" letters are drafted, checked & vetted by the Director so everyone have to use this format cos ultimately he is the one answerable.

Government servant. What do you expect? Follow the rules and law.

[ICAlaw101]

Point of correction. It is precisely thebproblem when they are outside, apply for visa to come in and not approved or even when their visa wad arrpbed, they fly into sipngapore and was turned away and asked to go home on the next flight. They have no pending cases with ICA, this is when they need a lawyer to investigate their background with ICA and appeal for them. I have some sample letters to show fellow bros with sensitive details blanked out. Anyone know how to stick it in thread? Incidentally, I dun think ICA dare to yell lawyers to fly kite or ignore lawyers queries.

[ICAlaw101]

Have any bros encountered situations where their fern cannot get a visa to come in from ICA or even when try have a visa, came to Singapore and was sent back from our checkpoints?

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by ICAlaw101

Point of correction. It is precisely thebproblem when they are outside, apply for visa to come in and not approved or even when their visa wad arrpbed, they fly into sipngapore and was turned away and asked to go home on the next flight. They have no pending cases with ICA, this is when they need a lawyer to investigate their background with ICA and appeal for them. I have some sample letters to show fellow bros with sensitive details blanked out. Anyone know how to stick it in thread? Incidentally, I dun think ICA dare to yell lawyers to fly kite or ignore lawyers queries.

dun understand wat you are talking..ICA will issue SOP letters...lawyers cannot make any diff with such cases...sure lose...stupid to consult lawyers on such cases...total waste of $$$...

Originally Posted by ICAlaw101

Have any bros encountered situations where their fern cannot get a visa to come in from ICA or even when try have a visa, came to Singapore and was sent back from our checkpoints?

daily affair la...

[etct88]

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

dun understand wat you are talking..ICA will issue SOP letters...lawyers cannot make any diff with such cases...sure lose...stupid to consult lawyers on such cases...total waste of $$$...

daily affair la...

Yup...... in stinkapore, don't bother and not worth it to be a 'smart alex'.

In Stinkapore, I act blur, I happy... they don't disturb me.... my nama chow until buay chow in ICA liao, used by Viets and TYs to come and go. Even have one PRC applied green card using my name.....

The outcome,

The pho bo, come and go so many times, no need to be 1 month in between, until she found another good name to use. Happy for her, she is married and have a baby now.

The ICA did asked her who that ah pek was when she used a new name to enter. "I was the family friend".

The TYs, they come and gone.....

The PRC, she is hold a green card now, had a good time (free) with her in NY....

So moral of the story.... I am not a smart ah pek.....

[shysaint]

Originally Posted by etct88

So moral of the story.... I am not a smart ah pek.....

I understand the morale of the story is Not to be a SMART Alex ...

But I cannot understand your story ....

[etct88]

Originally Posted by shysaint

I understand the morale of the story is Not to be a SMART Alex ...

But I cannot understand your story ....

ah pek ham sup lo, agreed to let puyings, pho bos use my name (mobile and home address) when they enter SG........ so I am sure, the name most likely "blacklisted", but I did no wrong and they didn't get into trouble..

But ICA no disturb me, nor the gals that came thru'. Basically ICA no any how disturb people one. They only do so when they are cock sure.......

Long story la........

[shysaint]

To ALL BROs ...

30 mins to CLNY 2011 .....

I Wish ALL BROs a HaPPy Chinese Lunar New Year 2011....

" Gong Xi Fao Chai .... Xin Nian Kuai Le "

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[Ninja_Assassin]

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

dun understand wat you are talking..ICA will issue SOP letters...lawyers cannot make any diff with such cases...sure lose...stupid to consult lawyers on such cases...total waste of $$$...

From his nick I think he is one of those "lawyers" that advertise they can provide assistance in ICA matters....... tanchiak until come into sbf

[ICAlaw101]

This is a forum to exchange and share information. For those that say no use to hire lawyers to solve ICA issues, the first question I asked is whether you have used a lawyer yourself to help your friend resolve ICA issues. If not, there is no basis to say useless and waste money. Otherwise, there will be no lawyers in Singapore. Put it this way, how many of you here knows about the Immigration Act, who covers entry to Singapore. Does the Bank manager or company director understands this? ICA is regulated by the Immigration Act. Put it another way, how many people knows how to write an appeal letter to ICA properly. it is not easily to appeal to waive a parking fine, let alone appeal to ICA. THEREFORE REPEATED FAILURES ARE EXPECTED. Just because a brother share info on a FL does not mean he is trying to earn some money. The typical way bros here encountered when visa fails is to appeal themselves, when it fails, they go see MP and when it fails, they stop there. There is another avenue, appeal thru lawyer. Think no brothers here tried this last route PERSONALLY and not through heresay I state for the record, lawyers are just your average person, 行行出状元 but this is one avenue unexplored by all

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by ICAlaw101

This is a forum to exchange and share information. For those that say no use to hire lawyers to solve ICA issues, the first question I asked is whether you have used a lawyer yourself to help your friend resolve ICA issues. If not, there is no basis to say useless and waste money. Otherwise, there will be no lawyers in Singapore. Put it this way, how many of you here knows about the Immigration Act, who covers entry to Singapore. Does the Bank manager or company director understands this? ICA is regulated by the Immigration Act. Put it another way, how many people knows how to write an appeal letter to ICA properly. it is not easily to appeal to waive a parking fine, let alone appeal to ICA. THEREFORE REPEATED FAILURES ARE EXPECTED. Just because a brother share info on a FL does not mean he is trying to earn some money. The typical way bros here encountered when visa fails is to appeal themselves, when it fails, they go see MP and when it fails, they stop there. There is another avenue, appeal thru lawyer. Think no brothers here tried this last route PERSONALLY and not through heresay I state for the record, lawyers are just your average person, 行行出状元 but this is one avenue unexplored by all

I had appealed for residents written countless letter over 10 years...I knew how Immigration Act works and was briefed the moment the Act changes...my answer remains lawyers appeal dun give a diff...ICA will eval base on merits of each case...

BTW, I had successfully helped to write letters to waive traffic summons...I had a volunteer who is a lawyer often with us and his appeal went thru the same procedure...hahaha...

Anyway, you can proceed to use lawyer as you wished....no comments anymore on this....

My 2 cents worth on a CNY day...

Gong Xi Fatt Cai....

[shysaint]

Originally Posted by ICAlaw101

This is a forum to exchange and share information......

For those that can afford to use lawyer to appeal then use lor ... for people cannot then have to appeal themselves ...

For me , as long as you keep appealing and you satisfied the requirements of the ICA, what documents they want , you can produce ... the chances of success is very high ...

( I have help my friend who successfully appeal to allows her gf to comes in, I have advice many friends not to give up appealing, many tried and have successfuly appealed for their gf to comes in and gotten married)

Even of you engage lawyers, you still have to provide the same documents, got lawyers but cannot produce the asked documents,, u think success rate is high because you have a lawyer?

I agree on your statement but not 100% ... but then ask yourself .. why there are lawyers who win cases??? and why there are lawyers who lost cases ... those can produce evidences win, those cannot lose ....

so ICA is like juge ... if u can Produce documents ask by them to substantitae your grounds, they lift the ban,, if you cannot, then too bad, your ban remains ...

Think before you comments on your pts .... no need to get so worked up.

[Schenker]

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

dun understand wat you are talking..ICA will issue SOP letters...lawyers cannot make any diff with such cases...sure lose...stupid to consult lawyers on such cases...total waste of $$$...

Kinda agree with u on this... But if the appellant have the money, I will say why not.

Originally Posted by ICAlaw101

Put it this way, how many of you here knows about the Immigration Act, who covers entry to Singapore. Does the Bank manager or company director understands this? ICA is regulated by the Immigration Act. Put it another way, how many people knows how to write an appeal letter to ICA properly. it is not easily to appeal to waive a parking fine, let alone appeal to ICA. THEREFORE REPEATED FAILURES ARE EXPECTED. Just because a brother share info on a FL does not mean he is trying to earn some money. The typical way bros here encountered when visa fails is to appeal themselves, when it fails, they go see MP and when it fails, they stop there. There is another avenue, appeal thru lawyer. Think no brothers here tried this last route PERSONALLY and not through heresay I state for the record, lawyers are just your average person, 行行出状元 but this is one avenue unexplored by all

I can tell u not many lawyers are well versed in immigration laws. Because this act generally covers a big area. Furthermore, new instructions can be added and enforced by the top, and still fall within the act to carry out their daily routine work.

What I can say is this, if you are currently well versed with IA, do offer your best assistance to those who need them. (appeal letter sample etc)

Not many can afford to engage a "immigration" lawyer to fight their case. If the content of your appeal letter is backed with facts and well drafted, I see no reason why ICA will chuck it aside.

[Lone_Wolf]

Originally Posted by Schenker

I can tell u not many lawyers are well versed in immigration laws.

This statement is very true..... I myself had witness 1st hand an incident of a lawyer asking a policeman for help to draft a letter to ICA.

It was at a CC legal clinic where this lawyer was a volunteer providing legal advice to those poor residents...... a young couple had turned up because they had some problems with ICA..... after listening to their story....... the lawyer called the police sergeant from the NPC beside the CC and asked him how to go about this case....... after listening to the options given by the policeman..... the lawyer then asked the policeman to help him to draft the letter to ICA.

I shall not name the lawyer..... but he is from a fairly large and reputable law firm.

[Schenker]

Originally Posted by Lone_Wolf

It was at a CC legal clinic where this lawyer was a volunteer providing legal advice to those poor residents...... a young couple had turned up because they had some problems with ICA..... after listening to their story....... the lawyer called the police sergeant from the NPC beside the CC and asked him how to go about this case....... after listening to the options given by the policeman..... the lawyer then asked the policeman to help him to draft the letter to ICA.

Having any lawyer at this point do helps, because police won't offer legal advice to the members if the public. If you have a lawyer, he will act as a bridge for you. But in the other hand, the success rate of the appeal still lies with ICA.