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Re: Anti Amos Yee’s Shrew Campaign to Exit NSF

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Ten years down the road, when you interview a FT and he says:
1) I don’t have reservist, RT/IPT/IPPT, not an appointment holder in NS unit; therefore I can 100% be devoted into your company.

How’ll you feel when you had ROD proper? Worst case is when you were a Pes C1 & got injure during service? C1 are those downgrade for upper body injury & have to take IPPT w/o incentives given. You endure the fear of 2nd injury that’ll cause disability & 2 1/2year NSF/ 13year NS.
If I remember correctly, your passing out from army cert will be evaluated by some companies? N if you have a PES F, obviously, u must have some sickness n will the company think 2 x before hiring you?


So don't think Pes F is good, means you are outright useless and there is something wrong with you for rest of life.
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If I remember correctly, your passing out from army cert will be evaluated by some companies? N if you have a PES F, obviously, u must have some sickness n will the company think 2 x before hiring you?

So don't think Pes F is good, means you are outright useless and there is something wrong with you for rest of life.
Pes f or z like everything From saf means nothing outside of saf or govt. The private company isn't hiring the guy to chiong suah & as long as the guy don't die or get Mc everyday, the company don't care. In fact saf means nothing to most companies. Oso, the company will admire the kengster 4 successfully siaming

There are ppl I know who might as well b 1 foot in the coffin according to saf but actually is 100% normal according to them AND their doctors. So to everybody, pls don't b stoopid n fake being insane or gay to siam

But being able to not serve saf at all is the holy grail which I never hear any kengster being able to achieve juz like the legendary geylang lor fl who looks like fan bb bt no one manage to fuck.
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Re: Anti Amos Yee’s Shrew Campaign to Exit NSF

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GET A LIFE!

i cant believe you actually spend so much time to research and write about a teenager who maybe or may not be mad.

and even if he is really trying to pull a fast one to escape NS, what the fuck does it have to do with you or the singapore society as a whole. There are tonnes of NSF out there trying to keng their way out and tonnes of NSF out there who want to do their best, why dont you go list out their names and write about them?
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GET A LIFE!

i cant believe you actually spend so much time to research and write about a teenager who maybe or may not ?
Haha I think ts is either some crazy fuckin captain America or that cowardly aircon uncle who worship lky as his god.

I volunteer Ts & AY to be on the frontline defending spore & sharing the same bunk & trench. Both will kill the other & put them out of misery.
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Pes f or z like everything From saf means nothing outside of saf or govt. The private company isn't hiring the guy to chiong suah & as long as the guy don't die or get Mc everyday, the company don't care. In fact saf means nothing to most companies. Oso, the company will admire the kengster 4 successfully siaming

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Obviously, I as an employer, if know your status is PES F, who want to know whats the reason. Insurace coverage from company, or if the company gives extra work, u cant take stress n you need to see doc, or get MC regularly, etc. You think I would hire someone like that?

Sounds like you are not a local who done NS, or someone who would loves to keng in NS.


Obviously, a healthy body n healthy mind is related. Even a PES C is a clerk or a PES E can be a clerk. PES F means CANNOT DO NS. That person can work?
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Re: Anti Amos Yee’s Shrew Campaign to Exit NSF

If the guys doctor or the company doctor says he's fine n gd to work, no one cares abt safs Assessment.

I've said no pt claiming insanity becos that's hard to later say he's perfectly ok now.

I actually know a pes f. No different from many ppl n can Do deskbound work. No one cares if he didn't do saf.
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If the guys doctor or the company doctor says he's fine n gd to work, no one cares abt safs Assessment.

I've said no pt claiming insanity becos that's hard to later say he's perfectly ok now.

I actually know a pes f. No different from many ppl n can Do deskbound work. No one cares if he didn't do saf.
I seen a few too. But PES F usually means really got problem somewhere.

If I am an employer, I will always look out for people who cant do SAF, must be something wrong, either mentally or physically. Wont hire him.
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Re: Anti Amos Yee’s Shrew Campaign to Exit NSF

Internationally, people had protested for immediately release of AY & remind SG that it had signed http://www.forbes.com/sites/jnylande...an-yew-photos/ the UN Convention on the Rights of Child. This’s an indirect way of warning SG on trade sanction if SG doesn’t follow. It’s ok to oppose the Right Wing & National Service Act; but not in the expense of seeking foreign aid trashing SG as a country on whole solely base AY’s plot. It’s pointless to oppose/ protest to any policy without giving constructive suggestion for a country to progress.

WP’s Lau had ever point out that: 可是,这又面对新加坡可能沦为大国的附庸国,成为大国在国际政治舞台上的一颗棋子,而被牺牲掉 的风险。

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...10&app=desktop

2015-06-26 台灣公民社會呼籲新加坡政府,應立即釋放少年Amos Yee (video runtime 32.03min):



20150701有話好說:「李光耀終於死了!」余澎杉拘禁精神病院!(video runtime 34.13min):



This’s an unapproved film showing ex exile politician love for the army & SG.
To Singapore, with Love 星国恋 (video runtime 1:07.57hr):

http://www.veoh.com/watch/v90965073h...9B%BD%E6%81%8B

PM’s comments on To Singapore, with Love 星国恋 (video runtime 5min):



Here are suggestions to end NSF once & for all which the people’s representatives can bring up:
1) Outsource to private or foreign army.
2) Conquer our nearby country.
3) Join back Federal Government.
4) Purposely plot or wait till nearby country get into finance crisis. Loan them the money by requiring them to sign peace treaty. On extreme case, get them to lease or sell land & human to solve our under & greying population problem.



To get things done properly is to 1st understand the Constitution of Singapore: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Singapore . This’s the condition for a suggestion to be debated & pass through (video runtime 13.04min):

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Haha. Trade sanctions for amos yee???
Haha looks like he's nt the one insane
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Re: Anti Amos Yee’s Shrew Campaign to Exit NSF

For Pes C, they can be Storeman (GE, Ordinance or Control Item), Clerk, Driver, Medic, Technician (A B C Veh, Electronics, Arms or Ammo) & MO (can downgrade after OCS) which Pes A B BP can do. They form the Logistics Company of a combat unit or base level of Logistic Formation that are field deployable unless L3 code. They were the ones that made everything during humanitarian aid eg. Tsunami, Nicoll Highway, New World Hotel etc.

Pes F on remaining days of illness is likely to die & serious insane is never likely to recover. It’s ok to employ a Pes F who eg miracle survives from organ transplant. But it’s not ok employ a Pes F who pretends to be insane to forge/ buy specialist letter (old school rumor) due to their coward, self-center, shew, cunning & intelligent one kind behavior.

To suit the present day, it’s time for MOM to look into not allowing employer to ask interviewee verbally & on interview declaration forms anything or request SAF Cert of Svc/ MR Cert on NSF & NS because this lessen the chance for locals to be employ (not for the sake to cover the minority Pes F & 302). Unless this commercial company is a Mindef subcon dealing with classified item.

What happen during NSF or NS of an individual, there’s no way for a commercial company to obtain information from SAF. Some company doesn’t bother to ask NS NSF issue. That’s how Pes F gets away. Another way is to bluff in the interview declaration form.

On foreign affair issue, if gov overlook a serious problem that had happened, everyone start to curse & swear. But when gov look into anything before it turns serious, people say gov too strict & sensitive. It’s never right not to honor what’s agreed.

The Gen Z are more academic educated education smart & most pursue to be the Wolf of Wall Street. But seem like the Gen Z folks don’t have character/ civil/ moral education because it don’t worth a cent. As long they are able to over throw a law in the expense of other people/ country (without street smart enough strategy looking into the big picture). There are private army (own by drug lord & sultan) & rebel army engaging in guerilla warfare within SEA countries.

Wall Street News & Local Blog News are more important to them.

This’s a failure in our edu sys. We can’t talk race religion. Therefore we can’t enforce religion study. But School of Thoughts may be ok. It’s time to write a School of Thoughts as character/ civil/ moral education for school. A thing late LKY didn’t further think of during his suggestion for Asia Value.

Perhaps, the Gen Z had a new set of Wall Street Values which other S’porean feels uncomfortable. But the future belongs to them. They should step forward into politics to correctly make a change according to what they feel right. Unless they don’t take ownership of the country.

If they join the existing right or left wing, don’t think their ideas can get through base on Asian seniority is command idea as there’s a party whip to follow. Tin & Nicole Seah are life example.

So the Gen Z can register a new political party to enter the electron & secure 1/3 or more of the seats. All registered political party can seek donation just like religious organization. AY is seeking funds on Crowdfunding sites too.

PAP co-founder whom also founder for Barisan Socialist (later merge into WP) Lim https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lim_Chin_Siong http://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2014...ully-detained/ was a young guy (never as educated as our Gen Z) when he enter politics. PG also discuss that could SG be much better if he became PM whereby not only been rich; but humanly been happy & rich.

Lim on Discovery Channel (un approved):





They can suggest changes to the Wall Street Industry so that more people can achieve their Wolf of Wall Street dream sooner. They are:
1) Bring back short selling.
2) Implement T+30.
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Pes F on remaining days of illness is likely to die & serious insane is never likely to recover. It’s ok to employ a Pes F who eg miracle survives from organ transplant. But it’s not ok employ a Pes F who pretends to be insane to forge/ buy specialist letter (old school rumor) due to their coward, self-center, shew, cunning & intelligent one kind behavior.



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PES F usually means serious problems. If a person is pes F, of cos a company would not hire him for strenuous work such as delivery man or driver. Further more, chances of him having to see doctor regularly, would hit the company performance as well. That will lower his chances of find work, or more precise, a narrower path of career for him.

NS is now a 2 year crap w all the BULLSHIT policy by the gov to let in so many FTs. I am not standing on Amos side, but I do think that SAF need some shake up. If Amos is thinking of using this as an excuse to get out of NS, then I feel sorry for him for destroying his own future as he had already done.
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Re: Anti Amos Yee’s Shrew Campaign to Exit NSF

Knn la ts is pap IB sent here to do create diversion from other cock up they did
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Re: Anti Amos Yee’s Shrew Campaign to Exit NSF

I personally know a Pes F guy who goes around telling people how he 'geng' to get Pes F because of Mental issue.


I really think he got some mental problem and only he thinks he himself is normal.

The funny thing is he's always so proud showing off how he got his Pes F and he doesn't realise that everyone listening on is just politely nodding their head.


What i'm trying to say is he did not cheat his way out of the system. He really is mentally unwell in my opinion and he is a potential hazard to others if he remains in saf


Anyway i've only worked with him for less than a month and he was sort of in my lunch group during that period. Don't know him in depth but well enough to know he's not someone you want to even be close with not to mention going to war.



The whole Amos yee incident is ridiculous. Quite poor thing that kid. I don't really care about what he says or do but he seemed like a sacrificial lamb to me.

Being fed to the media just to draw everyone's attention to the news.



It's time to move on.
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Re: Anti Amos Yee’s Shrew Campaign to Exit NSF

If anyone is kind enough to tell AY (his crowdfunding campaign don’t seem to work), this’s his last chance to use Sociology Philosopher Max Weber’s theory to clear one of his charges in his coming appeal:



Against his original video:



What he said doesn’t make him any special because it’s the daily coffee shop talk on our streets by people from all walks of life. Everyone is able to pinpoint that too. Only a person is able to provide solutions; then it’s deeming a problem solver.

Those doing international business or in the audit line will know that we have one of the lowest, simplest & straight forward tax system which make it the best place around the world to do business. Unfortunately, the chart in his video was taken from Local Blog News & not how professional economist does data collection. That’s where AY is incorrect & can have another charge for misleading.

Other than race, language & religion; political view is another tool that irritates/ halt the mind. Some (not all) Local Blog News use political issue to penetrated into this human weak point in order to get more traffic for their site. Why need traffic? This time not Wall Street Values. It’s Silicon Valley Values. These websites have affiliate marketing & pay per click banners or links on their mailing. You click & they earn commission.

Therefore, the local media should minimalize or don’t make reports on him. In this manner, there’s no way for a hidden shrew campaign which is unnoticed yet to take place further. When his gen of people begins to idolize him, it’ll to too late.

Hope he realize the halt point. If not, it’s better to have his citizenship revoke in discreet upon reaching 18. Take note SG signed the UN Convention on the Rights of Child.

My encounters with Pes F were several decades ago. It’s ok to be coffee shop hi bye friend (expect to perm treat them) with them. But never as sincere friend or in business partner. You give him a cent, he want a billion from you. They keep changing job; always fail in business or divorce.

Most Pes C2 ~ F don’t have IPPT. At ~28, many downgrades further for heart illness perhaps due to lack of cardio exercise & exit reservist. Erection requires the heart to supply enough blood flow rate. If not, they need yellow or blue pill depending on the hardness.

The NSF reduction to 2yrs only shows increase productivity in NCO & OCS; but not for the Active Pte, LCP & NSmen. Perhaps MOM has to increase annual leave to 21 days. Increase reservist productivity so that high key ICT is 7days max. NSmen can quietly go reservist without alarming employer (can be a FT).

Many Male/ Female FT always say he/ she has no ICT, IPPT, RT, IPT & NS Key Holder Meeting. By their commercial sex ads appears on Craigslist & Backpage.

The following are 2 short, simple & straightforward videos by Apple Daily which’s similar to AY ones & reduce the chance of being sued. Similar to Namewee & Mr Brown Style. The investor for Apple Daily is the same as Giordano whom rumor to sponsor Tiananmen Sq (not Las Vegas Tiananmen hang flower joint founded by late Milk Pig) & Yellow Umbrella Revolution. Buy SG50 shirts wisely.



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Re: Anti Amos Yee’s Shrew Campaign to Exit NSF

if he really want escape NS, he just go IMH A&E and say he has depression and will commit suicide and bring someone with him if he go NS.
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