Middle class Singaporean no more.....Sigh

[abugga]

It does seem that the threadstarter here is not seeking an answer nor advice about "cost of living" ..

It has been painfully apparent that you are merely seeking to have the general public to approve/agree and start bashing all the externalities of control in your life. By shifting blame to all external locus of control, by lamenting the invisible forces of economics and society beat you down, and you are willingly accepting it as it is without the courage to stand up and say I have respect for myself as a man, a husband and a father, a son to not only endure this hardship, but to take a change.

Do not take this personal as I have no feelings toward you, no pity no anger, nothing.

You are living a second hand life by letting public opinion, hearsay and values affect the way you perceive reality. You have no values to call your own and you have an utmost zero level of self respect towards yourself as a MAN to take control of yourself, your emotions your will.

Do not get me wrong, life is a lifelong battle and suffering and defeat is a detail of a battlefield, so what? You will just have to suffer and hustle harder to get what you want.

What is the point of opening a discussion (if you can even call this shameful act a discussion) if all you do is to try is to accept what concurs with you, and reject that which may be the truth. (there is no right or wrong I will give it to you)

If you cannot take charge, take control of your own fate and destiny, who do you want to entrust that responsibility and integrity to? Society? The government? Your mother? Your wife your kids?

You expect life to be charitable, to hold you in her arms and say MoJoe you are well taken care of, you do not need to struggle or perhaps even suffer to attain whatever you have wished to set out for.

You are a man and you dont deserve less. You must not expect anyone to do you good neither will you do anyone good. If you can even comprehend this sentence, you are on your way to self respect.

You keep this up you will have lived life as a fool and will definately come to a fool's end one day.

[EtHiCaLhAcKeR]

One alternative is to move out of Singapore.

There are countries readily available to accept you if you are able to lower your expectations and seek what you desire from a different perspective.

The issue with Singaporeans is they are unable to venture out of their comfort zone.

[MoJoe313]

Sadfa, abugga, [Insert Name],
I neither take offence nor expect people to agree. This is a forum. Anyone with an access to Internet can comment freely. I can understand people will be angry when they see someone better off complaining. Teach him what life is all about. Insult and trash him later.

Who is MoJoe? I am just a faceless person driving a car you see on the road, living in one of our high rise pigeon holes.

You could have ignored me if I wrote rubbish. But you bothered to reply. And wrote a lengthy one too. Because some things I wrote resonated quietly inside you. You look around your country, you see swathes upon swathes of condos everywhere. Each worth millions. How can there be so many rich people out there? What will my future be?

Like I said, I am just a decrepit old man who spoke the hidden recess in your mind. Ignore me. We lim a cuppa of kopi when we meet.

[leakypipes]

Originally Posted by MoJoe313

Sadfa, abugga, [Insert Name],
I neither take offence nor expect people to agree. This is a forum. Anyone with an access to Internet can comment freely. I can understand people will be angry when they see someone better off complaining. Teach him what life is all about. Insult and trash him later.

Who is MoJoe? I am just a faceless person driving a car you see on the road, living in one of our high rise pigeon holes.

You could have ignored me if I wrote rubbish. But you bothered to reply. And wrote a lengthy one too. Because some things I wrote resonated quietly inside you. You look around your country, you see swathes upon swathes of condos everywhere. Each worth millions. How can there be so many rich people out there? What will my future be?

Like I said, I am just a decrepit old man who spoke the hidden recess in your mind. Ignore me. We lim a cuppa of kopi when we meet.

Hmm yiu sound like someone I know with the name Joe. I used to go KTV w the bugger. He also running own company and got same number of kids as you. Same age range also.

[MoJoe313]

Originally Posted by leakypipes

Hmm yiu sound like someone I know with the name Joe. I used to go KTV w the bugger. He also running own company and got same number of kids as you. Same age range also.

leakypipes brother,
I corresponded with you a few times in other threads. That's about it. I am not that bugger you mentioned. I don't do KTV. Check out my past posts. I am really a decent sincere chap who loves his wife and kids, trying to find his way in this messy world. We will get along well if we ever meet.

[sammyboyfor]

Originally Posted by MoJoe313

leakypipes brother,
I corresponded with you a few times in other threads. That's about it. I am not that bugger you mentioned. I don't do KTV. Check out my past posts. I am really a decent sincere chap who loves his wife and kids, trying to find his way in this messy world. We will get along well if we ever meet.

What are you doing here then?

[abugga]

Originally Posted by MoJoe313

Sadfa, abugga, [Insert Name],
I neither take offence nor expect people to agree. This is a forum. Anyone with an access to Internet can comment freely. I can understand people will be angry when they see someone better off complaining. Teach him what life is all about. Insult and trash him later.

Who is MoJoe? I am just a faceless person driving a car you see on the road, living in one of our high rise pigeon holes.

You could have ignored me if I wrote rubbish. But you bothered to reply. And wrote a lengthy one too. Because some things I wrote resonated quietly inside you. You look around your country, you see swathes upon swathes of condos everywhere. Each worth millions. How can there be so many rich people out there? What will my future be?

Like I said, I am just a decrepit old man who spoke the hidden recess in your mind. Ignore me. We lim a cuppa of kopi when we meet.

it is not that what you have said that has resonated in me, this you are wrong about me, I little or no affection for these self attached perceptions of wealth and material. money merely keeps the score and buys me tools to use.

I am merely telling you to be a man, to take charge of your own life instead of asking everyone why is this so why is that so. You want more money, find a way to earn more money, coming in here and find an outlet that much is a futile attempt. You want a condo? Find a way to earn the money to buy one. you want a raise? Prove it to your boss and ask for it, demand it If you truly have the worth.

Once again, i am replying not because I care for you, but because I have my own beliefs of what a man should do and be, and that I only see men degrading into pussies and scum. I stand by my own values. This correspondence is merely reminding myself of my own ideals.

[dewe]

Originally Posted by abugga

it is not that what you have said that has resonated in me, this you are wrong about me, I little or no affection for these self attached perceptions of wealth and material. money merely keeps the score and buys me tools to use.

I am merely telling you to be a man, to take charge of your own life instead of asking everyone why is this so why is that so. You want more money, find a way to earn more money, coming in here and find an outlet that much is a futile attempt. You want a condo? Find a way to earn the money to buy one. you want a raise? Prove it to your boss and ask for it, demand it If you truly have the worth.

Once again, i am replying not because I care for you, but because I have my own beliefs of what a man should do and be. And I stand by My own beliefs. take it as a selfish man that I am , reminding myself of my own ideals.

For the record, i'm on this side of the camp. A perspective of life comes from one's within. We can be influenced by what is around us but that is also a matter of the power within ourselves. As a wise man once said "Life is simple but we insist on making it complicated".

[MoJoe313]

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor

What are you doing here then?

Hey, I must act busy too right?!

[comm]

all i see at the first post is a complain on rising cost of living and stagnant wages, which is a very real problem faced by the majority of Singaporeans who are salary workers

[kuasimi]

[kuasimi]

Originally Posted by kuasimi

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[thickhead]

Originally Posted by Yoonachio

TS, your combined income is not really your "income". The amount u save is.

Try to list down your expenses and see what can be cut down, like weekly fine dining to monthly, entertainment cost, change to 2nd hand car etc...

If you spend 9k per month, sure you cant save money.

What you save is your savings.
What you earn is your income.
TS is correct and you are wrong.
Stop trying to correct others if you cannot get simple things right!