Liverpool Fc @ Anfield - Reds Supporters Gatherings

[owen10]

Originally Posted by OriginalSHAVE

Regardless if Arsenal win the FA Cup or not, Liverpool will play in Europa League next season....

Thanks for the clear explanation bro!
I'm sure many did not know abt this fact!

[LeeHsienLoong]

Liverpool will not fire Brendan Rodgers.
Expect him to manage the club next season, hopefully with better players.

[sex crusader]

Let's face the fact! We will continue to be a mid table team for the next ten years! Well... Continue to give the current team the next ten years to settle down? bla..bla... Better to not involve in Europa league ! I smell sour grape Ler!

[SnowLeopards]

Originally Posted by LeeHsienLoong

Liverpool will not fire Brendan Rodgers.

I was reading this news and am extremely appalled by it.

Carlo Ancelotti :-

Won the Champions League, Copa del Rey, UEFA Super Cup, and FIFA’s Club World Cup in his first season in charge. Failed to win any silverware in his second season and got the sack.

Brendan Rodgers :-

Failed to win any trophies in his 3 year stay. Broke a more than 50 year old record by allowing Liverpool to get trashed by 6 goals. Spent £211 million on players.

Pierre.

[masterwanker]

A good article to read :

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport...ew-six-9322730

BR still got a review with FSG . After which will he still be around ? Remember what happened to King Kenny not too long ago.

[sex crusader]

This is the problem when you have a manager that talk too much off the pitch!
https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs...115055855.html

[qw2op]

comparing rodgers' performance tis season wif dat of dalglish's in 2011/2012 ...

rodgers won nothing, failed 2 get a cl spot n failed 2 go in2 ze next round in cl ...

dalglish won ze league cup but missed out on a cl spot ...

if ze targets set 4 rodgers were trophies, cl qualification n progress 2 ze second round in cl, den he had failed on all 3 counts ...

if ze targets set 4 dalglish were trophies n cl qualification, den he had achieved half of dose ...

both rodgers n dalglish spent mor dan 100m on buying players ... @ ze n of ze season, 4 dalglish, oni enrique had looked gud ... 4 rodgers, oni can ...

dalglish finished 8th in ze table, while rodgers was 6th ... (tis has no significance as if u r not champion, u r juz another oso ran n nobody is really keen on europa cup) ...


dalglish was sacked ...


imho, it wud look unfair 2 dalglish if fsg kept rodgers ...

[ShadowRiders]

Carlos Ancelotti is available now, quickly go grab him

[ShadowRiders]

Can also approach Fandi Ahmad. Your Sports Minister Tan Choon Jin so thick skin to declared Fandi is world class coach just because he won the FA Cup.

Duh

[escobar43535]

Originally Posted by LeeHsienLoong

Liverpool will not fire Brendan Rodgers.
Expect him to manage the club next season, hopefully with better players.

Looks like FSG have confirmed that they are not sacking BR.

As for better players, fat chance! Kolo Toure's contract has been extended

The misery of being a Reds fan continues, but I guess that is the cross I must bear after basking in the Golden Years(70s-80s) when I was a young Liverpool supporter.

[qw2op]

me took a look @ pool's bpl performance in ze last 3 years, wif emphasis on matches amongst pool wif ze big teams (arse, chelsea, manc n manu) ...

ze results of matches amongst pool wif dese teams r separated from dose wif ze others n dey r summarised in ze tables below ...


........ home ........ away ........ total ........... total ... total
........ p w d l pt .. p w d l pt .. p w d l pt ...... others .. overall

year 2012/2013
arse ... 4 0 2 2 2 ... 4 1 1 2 4 ... 8 1 3 4 6 (4) ... 67(2) ... 73(4)
chel ... 4 1 2 1 5 ... 4 2 1 1 7 ... 8 3 3 2 12(3) ... 63(4) ... 75(3)
manc ... 4 1 2 1 5 ... 4 2 2 0 8 ... 8 3 4 1 13(2) ... 65(3) ... 78(2)
manu ... 4 2 0 2 6 ... 4 3 1 0 10 .. 8 5 1 2 16(1) ... 73(1) ... 89(1)
pool ... 4 0 2 2 2 ... 4 0 3 1 3 ... 8 0 5 3 5 (5) ... 56(5) ... 61(5)

year 2013/2014
arse ... 4 1 3 0 6 ... 4 0 0 4 0 ... 8 1 3 4 6 (4) ... 73(1) ... 79(4)
chel ... 4 4 0 0 12 .. 4 2 2 0 8 ... 8 6 2 2 20(1) ... 62(4) ... 82(3)
manc ... 4 3 0 1 9 ... 4 1 1 2 4 ... 8 4 1 3 13(2) ... 73(1) ... 86(1)
manu ... 4 1 1 2 4 ... 4 0 1 3 1 ... 8 1 2 5 5 (5) ... 59(5) ... 64(5)
pool ... 4 3 0 1 9 ... 4 1 0 3 3 ... 8 4 0 4 12(3) ... 72(3) ... 84(2)

year 2014/2015
arse ... 4 1 2 1 5 ... 4 1 2 1 5 ... 8 2 4 2 10(3) ... 65(3) ... 75(3)
chel ... 4 2 2 0 8 ... 4 1 3 0 6 ... 8 3 5 0 14(1) ... 73(1) ... 87(1)
manc ... 4 2 1 1 7 ... 4 0 2 2 2 ... 8 2 3 3 9 (4) ... 70(2) ... 79(2)
manu ... 4 2 2 0 8 ... 4 2 0 2 6 ... 8 4 2 2 14(1) ... 56(5) ... 70(4)
pool ... 4 1 1 2 4 ... 4 0 1 3 1 ... 8 1 2 5 5 (5) ... 57(4) ... 62(5)


ze home, away and total columns in ze tables show results of matches amongst ze big teams oni ... ze 'total others' column shows ze points obtained from matches against non big teams ... n ze 'total overall' column shows ze total points obtained from all 38 matches ...

ze number wifin ze round brackets show ze position of ze team (among ze 5 teams) based on ze points obtained in ze category ...


looking @ oni ze matches amongst ze big teams, in ze 2012/2013 season, pool won none, drew 5, lost 3, had 5 points in total ... n was last among ze 5 ...
in ze 2013/2014 season, pool won 4, lost 4, had 12 points in total ... n was 3rd ...
in ze 2014/2015 season, pool cud win oni 1, drew 2, lost all ze rest, had 5 points in total ... n was last ...

pool's best performance was in 2013/2014 when ze team had both suarez n sturridge ... in dat season, pool beat arse n manc @ home n manu both home n away (there was a certain moyes @ manu dat season) ...

in all 3 seasons, pool managed 2 win oni 1 away match (against moyes) ...

ze tables oso showed dat a team muz haf @ least 13 points or second in ze big matches results table in order 2 win bpl ... dey oso showed dat a team dat did well against non big teams but fared poorly against big teams wud not win ze league ...


* * * * * * * *


matches amongst big teams play a big part in determining whether a team can win ze league n their overall final position in ze league, especially if ze teams haf almost ze same points from non big matches ...

in ze 2013/2014 season, arse n manc got 73 points from non big matches, whereas pool had 1 point fewer @ 72 ... in ze big matches, manc beat pool by 1 point again n dey won ze league by 2 points ... notis dat chel wif oni 62 points from non big matches took a massive 20 points from big matches n finally came in juz 4 points behind manc ... arse got juz 6 points from ze big matches n was even overtaken by chel ...

in ze 2012/2013 season, if you consider points from non big matches alone, arse, chel n manc were quite close ... but arse oni managed 4th overall as dey got much fewer points from ze big matches ...

in ze 2014/2015 season, pool haf 1 point mor dan manu from ze non big matches ... but pool haf a massive 9 points fewer dan manu from big matches n there4 was way far behind manu overall ... pool had virtually lost ze 4th spot 2 manu due 2 their poor performances in ze big matches ...


tbc ...

[qw2op]

cont'd from previous post ...


ze table below summarises pool's bpl performance against ze big teams in ze last 3 years ...


........ home .......... away ......... total .......... points obtained by opponent
........ p .w d l pt ... p .w d l pt .. p .w d .l pt
arse ... .3 1 1 1 .4 ... .3 0 1 2 1 ... .6 1 2 .3 .5 ... 11
chel ... .3 0 1 2 .1 ... .3 0 2 1 2 ... .6 0 3 .3 .3 ... 12
manc ... .3 2 1 0 .7 ... .3 0 1 2 1 ... .6 2 2 .2 .8 ... 8
manu ... .3 1 0 2 .3 ... .3 1 0 2 3 ... .6 2 0 .4 .6 ... 12

total .. 12 4 3 5 15 ... 12 1 4 7 7 ... 24 5 7 12 22 ... 43


pool managed 2 win oni a total of 5 n lost 12 matches both home n away in ze last 3 years ...

pool managed 2 beat arse oni once, @ home ... has yet 2 beat chel either home or away ... beat manc twice @ home ... n beat manu (wif moyes) both home n away, n lost all ze other 'non moyes' matches ...

pool played 6 matches against each team in 3 years and dat means you cud haf a maximum of 18 points from each team ... but pool were not able 2 get even half of dat from any team ... on ze other hand, all ze other teams, wif ze exception of manc, got more than 9 points from pool ...

pool got less dan their rivals of watz @ stake in ze case of arse, chel n manu n was level wif manc ... in total, pool got less points (22) dan their rivals (43) from ze total available ...

pool's worst performances were against chel, getting a mere 3 points ... it would haf been against manu if u omit dose 2 moyes matches ...


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ze table below combines ze last 3 seasons' results of ze 5 teams ...


........ home .......... away ......... total ........
........ p .w d l pt ... p .w d l pt .. p . w .d .l pt
arse ... 12 2 7 3 13 ... 12 2 3 7 9 ... 24 .4 10 10 22
chel ... 12 6 5 1 24 ... 12 5 6 1 21 .. 24 11 10 .2 44
manc ... 12 6 3 3 21 ... 12 3 5 4 14 .. 24 .9 .8 .7 35
manu ... 12 5 3 4 18 ... 12 5 2 5 17 .. 24 10 .5 .9 35
pool ... 12 4 3 5 15 ... 12 1 4 7 7 ... 24 .5 .7 12 22


pool share ze lowest number of points with arse ... n both of dem r 12 points behind their nearest rivals ...

(iz not surprising as arse omost oways oni managed 2 scramble 4 ze last cl spot evry year ...)


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conclusion ...


based on ze above, metinks @ tis time, rodgers does not haf it in him 2 cum out tops more often wen playing against big teams ...

u need 2 b able 2 win more of dese big matches @ home n avoid losing dem away in order 2 win ze league ...

however, even wif his strongest team in 2013/2014 (a team dat got mourinho pee-ing in his pants when he came 2 anfield), besides against moyes, he cud not even win any other match away ... n it does make me wonder whether pool cud even b second dat season if moyes were not @ manu ...


hence, me c rodgers is still some distance away (being polite here ) from having ze capability of winning a league title ...

[LeeHsienLoong]

Originally Posted by escobar43535

As for better players, fat chance! Kolo Toure's contract has been extended

Rodgers need to field players at the position they can strive.

Adam Lallana was outstanding for Southampton.
Liverpool played him out of position and the only two things he can do are his tireless runs and heavy pressing.

Jordan Henderson is played in deep midfield.
While at Sunderland he was well known for his forward performances which received good attention.

Emre Can is without a doubt a versatile player.
He needs to step up since Gerrard is gone and command the midfield.
With his bursting runs forward he can do damage.

Liverpool needs good players in defense, a classy defensive midfielder and deadly strikers.

No Danny Ings.
No Christian Benteke.
No Mario Balotelli.

[sex crusader]

With FSG and BR around, we will continue to be screwed ! Mid table mentality and will only target cheap players! Maybe lovern can play striker! After all we payed 20 mil for him! therefore...it's official that pool will be a mid table club for years to cum!
http://www.espnfc.com/club/liverpool...hits-or-misseso

[SnowLeopards]

Liverpool are looking to off load many players.

One needs to learn from Brendan on how to wash cash.

Pierre.