Advise please

[CeiResident]

Welcome back old friend errr. no flaming please i been years na.. Jai Yen Yen.... Everybody is a few years older keke....

Originally Posted by Cyberspace Nerd

Well, you should thank your parents!!!


otherwise I dont see how you can progress and upgrade!

[CeiResident]

Bro i'm staying at sukhumvit too.. when do u wanna pop by breadtalk in central world, was attached here for a few months.. going back soon.... Santika was happening na yesterday... This weekend wanna join me to drive up to wat sothon at chacheongsao?

Originally Posted by Jun|ch|

I just come back to say hello and u ask me to quit...so bad

u still in bangkok?

[CeiResident]

Will be ending my franchise stint in bangkok next weel bro,,, when shall we catch up at sims???

Originally Posted by Jun|ch|

2years have passed and your mouth still stinks as ever. No wonder people like u will always be stuck in this forum doing the same old things.

Luckily for me , I had progressed pretty much and upgraded myself. I cant say likewise for people like u.

[Charmaine]

Hi All,

I'm happy that my attempts to revive this fledging thread has resulted in a flurry of pats-on-the-back and "How have you been all this while" greetings. It's heartwarming! For the sake of argument, I have decided to pose a few random tidbit of questions for experienced Thai relationship gurus to flame or ponder upon.

- Has it been proven that you can never, ever change a Thai girl? I know lying is an inherent part of their lifestyle, but my girlfriend has recently "swore to me on her mother's life" that she would never tell me another lie, ever again. I am still skeptical because I know that you can never change someone overnight. That swear might well be another lie. How are you ever able to dive into a serious relationship if you can't trust your other half a hundred per cent?

- I've read countless other stories of farangs who have been duped by cunning, expertly-crafted webs of deceit spun by Thai girls. In some instances, the farang boyfriend had already been introduced to her network of friends, colleagues and even visited provinces and parents to ask for hand in marriage but which later turned out to be elaborate hoaxes - put it simply, everybody is in on the act, including her mother and father. I am expected to meet her parents the next time I visit and I am half-wondering if this sounds all-too familiar. Granted though that I've never sent her a single cent, this does seem like too much work on only a potential money-spinner like me considering it has been going on for a year now.

- Am I supposed to be happy when my girlfriend hardly ever says sweet things to me? Maybe I've been all too used to it based on my past experiences in relationships, but this one feels more than a little strange. I know I should be more weary when she becomes too liberal with them and calling me tirak all over the place, but she seems like the other extreme - she's almost reluctant, and takes painful effort to avoid, saying these things. It's almost as if she doesn't have feelings for me and feels weird saying it to someone she doesn't love. Or am I overly sensitive?

- What really goes on in G-Clubs? Her daily reports to me smell more than a little fishy. She claims that on a typical night there is only a little touching involved, almost no hugging and definitely no hanky-panky of any sort, and most of the time she and her colleagues are just sitting down and pouring drinks with a hand on their customer's thigh. While it's extremely easy to believe her and move on, my experiences in the G-Club scene have been very different. I see men's hands all over the place, too much hugging going on and in almost all cases the other girls do nothing about trying to protect themselves from being molested. Should I trust her or am I just I self-delusional?

Basically, these questions should give everyone a clear indication that I don't trust her a hundred per cent. I am able to contact her at any time with her picking up every time and texting back almost immediately, talk daily (either online or through sms) and she texts me every night after she reaches home to tell me she's alright (although even that could be a scam because she could be doing that from anywhere - even with another man beside him and I wouldn't know). She's the one trying now and I'm the one freaking out. Maybe reading too many horror stories on the perils of stupid farangs falling in love with Thai bar-girls does take its toll. I actually feel guilty about this.

[NakaSky]

Originally Posted by Charmaine

Hi All,

I'm happy that my attempts to revive this fledging thread has resulted in a flurry of pats-on-the-back and "How have you been all this while" greetings. It's heartwarming! For the sake of argument, I have decided to pose a few random tidbit of questions for experienced Thai relationship gurus to flame or ponder upon.

- Has it been proven that you can never, ever change a Thai girl? I know lying is an inherent part of their lifestyle, but my girlfriend has recently "swore to me on her mother's life" that she would never tell me another lie, ever again. I am still skeptical because I know that you can never change someone overnight. That swear might well be another lie. How are you ever able to dive into a serious relationship if you can't trust your other half a hundred per cent?

- I've read countless other stories of farangs who have been duped by cunning, expertly-crafted webs of deceit spun by Thai girls. In some instances, the farang boyfriend had already been introduced to her network of friends, colleagues and even visited provinces and parents to ask for hand in marriage but which later turned out to be elaborate hoaxes - put it simply, everybody is in on the act, including her mother and father. I am expected to meet her parents the next time I visit and I am half-wondering if this sounds all-too familiar. Granted though that I've never sent her a single cent, this does seem like too much work on only a potential money-spinner like me considering it has been going on for a year now.

- Am I supposed to be happy when my girlfriend hardly ever says sweet things to me? Maybe I've been all too used to it based on my past experiences in relationships, but this one feels more than a little strange. I know I should be more weary when she becomes too liberal with them and calling me tirak all over the place, but she seems like the other extreme - she's almost reluctant, and takes painful effort to avoid, saying these things. It's almost as if she doesn't have feelings for me and feels weird saying it to someone she doesn't love. Or am I overly sensitive?

- What really goes on in G-Clubs? Her daily reports to me smell more than a little fishy. She claims that on a typical night there is only a little touching involved, almost no hugging and definitely no hanky-panky of any sort, and most of the time she and her colleagues are just sitting down and pouring drinks with a hand on their customer's thigh. While it's extremely easy to believe her and move on, my experiences in the G-Club scene have been very different. I see men's hands all over the place, too much hugging going on and in almost all cases the other girls do nothing about trying to protect themselves from being molested. Should I trust her or am I just I self-delusional?

Basically, these questions should give everyone a clear indication that I don't trust her a hundred per cent. I am able to contact her at any time with her picking up every time and texting back almost immediately, talk daily (either online or through sms) and she texts me every night after she reaches home to tell me she's alright (although even that could be a scam because she could be doing that from anywhere - even with another man beside him and I wouldn't know). She's the one trying now and I'm the one freaking out. Maybe reading too many horror stories on the perils of stupid farangs falling in love with Thai bar-girls does take its toll. I actually feel guilty about this.

U cant change a thai girl as a matter of fact. U love the girl , accept what she is. Her stubborness , her constant lying , her laziness. Everything.

If she is not used to whisper sweet nothings to u , u just have to accept the fact as the honeymoon period might be over.

Try not to think so much into her work if u really want to work things out with her. It's just her job. What matters is that she love u i guess.

True , they could be anywhere including have a dick in her pussy while sms-ing or talking to u. It happens all the time seriously.

[Playman]

Originally Posted by Charmaine

Hi All,

I'm happy that my attempts to revive this fledging thread has resulted in a flurry of pats-on-the-back and "How have you been all this while" greetings. It's heartwarming! For the sake of argument, I have decided to pose a few random tidbit of questions for experienced Thai relationship gurus to flame or ponder upon.

let me share my opinion on this but I am no guru or anything.......!

- Has it been proven that you can never, ever change a Thai girl? I know lying is an inherent part of their lifestyle, but my girlfriend has recently "swore to me on her mother's life" that she would never tell me another lie, ever again. I am still skeptical because I know that you can never change someone overnight. That swear might well be another lie. How are you ever able to dive into a serious relationship if you can't trust your other half a hundred per cent?

Normally a thai gal or guy normally will only promised not swear....which is 2 different things, as they take swearing very seriously as they strongly believe something bad may fall on her or family if she didn't keep what she swear.....but promised is between 2 people, swearing is between god as the witness. Just sharing with you what I have know!


- I've read countless other stories of farangs who have been duped by cunning, expertly-crafted webs of deceit spun by Thai girls. In some instances, the farang boyfriend had already been introduced to her network of friends, colleagues and even visited provinces and parents to ask for hand in marriage but which later turned out to be elaborate hoaxes - put it simply, everybody is in on the act, including her mother and father. I am expected to meet her parents the next time I visit and I am half-wondering if this sounds all-too familiar. Granted though that I've never sent her a single cent, this does seem like too much work on only a potential money-spinner like me considering it has been going on for a year now.

To be fair a lot of relationship with my circle of friends didn't work out but there is a small percentage that works out just fine even better than the normal ladies...work their ass out to help her new husband in their business....!

- Am I supposed to be happy when my girlfriend hardly ever says sweet things to me? Maybe I've been all too used to it based on my past experiences in relationships, but this one feels more than a little strange. I know I should be more weary when she becomes too liberal with them and calling me tirak all over the place, but she seems like the other extreme - she's almost reluctant, and takes painful effort to avoid, saying these things. It's almost as if she doesn't have feelings for me and feels weird saying it to someone she doesn't love. Or am I overly sensitive?

They normally do not says romantic sweet things after knowing you..as farang ladies do that often...but then why compare the farang ladies with the thai ladies they are 2 very different cultural background....!There are many ways to show you that they love you.


- What really goes on in G-Clubs? Her daily reports to me smell more than a little fishy. She claims that on a typical night there is only a little touching involved, almost no hugging and definitely no hanky-panky of any sort, and most of the time she and her colleagues are just sitting down and pouring drinks with a hand on their customer's thigh. While it's extremely easy to believe her and move on, my experiences in the G-Club scene have been very different. I see men's hands all over the place, too much hugging going on and in almost all cases the other girls do nothing about trying to protect themselves from being molested. Should I trust her or am I just I self-delusional?

Well you know what she do even before you meet her...I assume you also met her in the G-club....so you already know the truth why ask her for further clarification when you already know the answer....not really fair to her....!You force her to lie to comfort you......I am sure that she knows that and she had to do it...to please you!


Basically, these questions should give everyone a clear indication that I don't trust her a hundred per cent. I am able to contact her at any time with her picking up every time and texting back almost immediately, talk daily (either online or through sms) and she texts me every night after she reaches home to tell me she's alright (although even that could be a scam because she could be doing that from anywhere - even with another man beside him and I wouldn't know). She's the one trying now and I'm the one freaking out. Maybe reading too many horror stories on the perils of stupid farangs falling in love with Thai bar-girls does take its toll. I actually feel guilty about this.

You should be feeling guilty as she is trying and you are not...... if you are really confidence that you can not longer trust her 100% then I suggest that you dropped her immediately and go for a new one......! It won't work!

Even with normal office girl,l these things could also happened seeing and screwing other guys.....what is the difference?

it is simple ...if you can accept her for what she is...go on....if not...dropped her and thank her for her time...!

This is my humble opinion and I am not going into any debate.....I am only sharing with you what I know and not advising....as the best man to judge in this scenerio is you and only you who knows best!

Best of Luck!

[Playman]

Originally Posted by Charmaine

Hi All,

I'm happy that my attempts to revive this fledging thread has resulted in a flurry of pats-on-the-back and "How have you been all this while" greetings. It's heartwarming! For the sake of argument, I have decided to pose a few random tidbit of questions for experienced Thai relationship gurus to flame or ponder upon.

let me share my opinion on this but I am no guru or anything.......!

- Has it been proven that you can never, ever change a Thai girl? I know lying is an inherent part of their lifestyle, but my girlfriend has recently "swore to me on her mother's life" that she would never tell me another lie, ever again. I am still skeptical because I know that you can never change someone overnight. That swear might well be another lie. How are you ever able to dive into a serious relationship if you can't trust your other half a hundred per cent?

Normally a thai gal or guy normally will only promised not swear....which is 2 different things, as they take swearing very seriously as they strongly believe something bad may fall on her or family if she didn't keep what she swear.....but promised is between 2 people, swearing is between god as the witness. Just sharing with you what I have know!


- I've read countless other stories of farangs who have been duped by cunning, expertly-crafted webs of deceit spun by Thai girls. In some instances, the farang boyfriend had already been introduced to her network of friends, colleagues and even visited provinces and parents to ask for hand in marriage but which later turned out to be elaborate hoaxes - put it simply, everybody is in on the act, including her mother and father. I am expected to meet her parents the next time I visit and I am half-wondering if this sounds all-too familiar. Granted though that I've never sent her a single cent, this does seem like too much work on only a potential money-spinner like me considering it has been going on for a year now.

To be fair a lot of relationship with my circle of friends didn't work out but there is a small percentage that works out just fine even better than the normal ladies...work their ass out to help her new husband in their business....!

- Am I supposed to be happy when my girlfriend hardly ever says sweet things to me? Maybe I've been all too used to it based on my past experiences in relationships, but this one feels more than a little strange. I know I should be more weary when she becomes too liberal with them and calling me tirak all over the place, but she seems like the other extreme - she's almost reluctant, and takes painful effort to avoid, saying these things. It's almost as if she doesn't have feelings for me and feels weird saying it to someone she doesn't love. Or am I overly sensitive?

They normally do not says romantic sweet things after knowing you..as farang ladies do that often...but then why compare the farang ladies with the thai ladies they are 2 very different cultural background....!There are many ways to show you that they love you.


- What really goes on in G-Clubs? Her daily reports to me smell more than a little fishy. She claims that on a typical night there is only a little touching involved, almost no hugging and definitely no hanky-panky of any sort, and most of the time she and her colleagues are just sitting down and pouring drinks with a hand on their customer's thigh. While it's extremely easy to believe her and move on, my experiences in the G-Club scene have been very different. I see men's hands all over the place, too much hugging going on and in almost all cases the other girls do nothing about trying to protect themselves from being molested. Should I trust her or am I just I self-delusional?

Well you know what she do even before you meet her...I assume you also met her in the G-club....so you already know the truth why ask her for further clarification when you already know the answer....not really fair to her....!You force her to lie to comfort you......I am sure that she knows that and she had to do it...to please you!


Basically, these questions should give everyone a clear indication that I don't trust her a hundred per cent. I am able to contact her at any time with her picking up every time and texting back almost immediately, talk daily (either online or through sms) and she texts me every night after she reaches home to tell me she's alright (although even that could be a scam because she could be doing that from anywhere - even with another man beside him and I wouldn't know). She's the one trying now and I'm the one freaking out. Maybe reading too many horror stories on the perils of stupid farangs falling in love with Thai bar-girls does take its toll. I actually feel guilty about this.

You should be feeling guilty as she is trying and you are not...... if you are really confidence that you can not longer trust her 100% then I suggest that you dropped her immediately and go for a new one......! It won't work!

Even with normal office girl,l these things could also happened seeing and screwing other guys.....what is the difference?

it is simple ...if you can accept her for what she is...go on....if not...dropped her and thank her for her time...!

This is my humble opinion and I am not going into any debate.....I am only sharing with you what I know and not advising....as the best man to judge in this scenerio is you and only you who knows best!

Hopefully I did not say anything to offend or hurt your feeling....if there is sorry!

Best of Luck!

[CeiResident]

Bro Char this song is dedicated to u: the questions u pose here is too general.... To each his own all i can say is not all thai girls are like that.... Forgive and Forget. Live and Let live....


ความรัก ต้องพังลงไป
kwaam rak dtong pang long bpai


อนาคต ที่สุดก็ผ่านพ้นไป
a-naa-kot tee soot gor paan pon bpai
.

เหลือเพียงหัวใจที่ยับเยิน
leua piang hua jai tee yap yern


บาดแผล มันลึกเกินเยียวยา
baat plae man leuk gern yieow-yaa


ตื่นจากฝัน เพราะถูกปลุกด้วยน้ำตา
dteun jaak fan pror took bplook duay naam dtaa


ทุรนทุรายหัวใจเหนื่อยล้า
too ron too raai hua jai neuay laa


ภาวนาให้ใจที่เจ็บจงเข้มแข็ง
paa-wa-naa hai jai tee jep jong kem kaeng


แม้มันจะไร้เรี่ยวแรง จะฝืนลุกยืนให้ไหว
mae man ja rai rieow raeng ja feun look yeun hai wai


คนคนเดียวมันไม่มีสิทธิ์ขนาดนั้น
kon kon dieow man mai mee sit ka-naat nan
ไม่ทำให้ช้ำถึงตาย ยังไงต้องรับให้ได้
mai tam hai cham teung dtaai yang ngai dtong rap hai daai


ชีวิตแค่โดนทำร้าย
chee-wit kae dohn tam raai


แต่ที่สุดมันต้องไม่โดนทำลาย
dtae tee soot man dtong mai dohn tam laai


แค่วันนี้หัวใจสลาย
kae wan nee hua jai sa-laai


เตือนตัวเองว่าถึงยังไง ฉันยังต้องอยู่
dteuan dtua eng waa teung yang ngai chan yang dtong yoo


ความรักลวงหลอกมันก็แค่เจ็บปวด
kwaam rak luang lok man gor kae jep bpuat


ไม่มีค่า ให้มันทำลายชีวิตไม่ได้
mai mee kaa hai man tam laai chee-wit mai daai

[CeiResident]

Wise words Aarchan Playman.. I pay homage to u na.... soot taai rak nan keu a-rai ying chan rian roo man maak kae nai ying roo ying mai kao jai? Pom sia jai mak loi..

Originally Posted by Playman

You should be feeling guilty as she is trying and you are not...... if you are really confidence that you can not longer trust her 100% then I suggest that you dropped her immediately and go for a new one......! It won't work!

Even with normal office girl,l these things could also happened seeing and screwing other guys.....what is the difference?

it is simple ...if you can accept her for what she is...go on....if not...dropped her and thank her for her time...!

This is my humble opinion and I am not going into any debate.....I am only sharing with you what I know and not advising....as the best man to judge in this scenerio is you and only you who knows best!

Hopefully I did not say anything to offend or hurt your feeling....if there is sorry!

Best of Luck!

[CeiResident]

Bro Charmaine what u have been thru and what u are going thru i guess most of us understand how u feel. But many others had been thru worse stages than u... Try not to be so negative.. By posing questions here and seeking advise u will only get flamed and be the subject of mockery. Ask bro junichi and some old birds during the era of siam cutey and singrakthai how they chak and flame the rest in the forum,, count yourself lucky they are not in the mood to "advise" u. if u want genuine advise ask suteerak1099 or uncle yong.


Quote for u :Like they said all wells that ends wells. Once the wound heals, all is forgotten....but before u know it, it hurt again.....the same old injury, the same old pain. When's all is said and done, there is no such things as the end."

[Playman]

Originally Posted by CeiResident

Wise words Aarchan Playman.. I pay homage to u na.... soot taai rak nan keu a-rai ying chan rian roo man maak kae nai ying roo ying mai kao jai? Pom sia jai mak loi..

Hahahah Pom mai chai aarchan....ta mai sia jai mak? ...mai dee nai!

Har tirak mai de quah.....

[Charmaine]

Thank you for all your kind words, especially Playman and CeiResident.

I guess the reason I turn to this forum is just so I can feel not alone in this. All of you are veterans in the scene, be it in P4P or in previous (or existing) romantic relationships with Thais, WLs or otherwise, and I fully acknowledge that I'm a novice in this area (and not ashamed to admit it). I have no qualms about being deducted points or getting flamed because in truth none of this matters to me. I have faith that this forum is special in a way that connects men in situations of a similar nature, and which allows everyone to come together and discuss about matters of the heart as much as we do pussy. All that matters to me is that this relationships turns out to be ok.

I should be taking solace in the fact that she has given up the father of her child to be with me. But my pessimistic nature does not allow me to think of anything other than the fact that she only made her choice because of practical reasons, not romantic ones. She did admit that she still has feelings for him and these feelings just don't die overnight. It hurts to hear that but at least she's being truthful. But she also did say that she probably loves me more than she loves him now. "How are you ever able to love 2 men at the same time?" I questioned her. "It's so normal." she replied. Maybe it's just a Thai thing.

As for the job thing, I do acknowledge that asking her about her job incessantly probably irritates her more than it assures, and I know that some white lies just have to be told if she doesn't want to invite trouble. Maybe I should just stop asking about her job altogether and accept the fact that these things happen. I tell her to take care at work, try not to get drunk if she can and "protect your body as much as possible". Is that too much to ask?

Once again, thank you everyone for your kind responses. It makes me feel not alone because, simply put, within my circle of friends I have no one else to turn to. Stereotypical comments like "You cannot get a Singapore girlfriend so go and find Thai girlfriend right?" and "Thai girls only know how to cheat money, don't be stupid" are typical and I'm frankly sick and tired of speaking with people who don't understand.

I didn't choose. I fell in love. She could have been WL or a non-WL, a Thai or a Japanese. All I know is that I met her and never looked back.

[Playman]

Originally Posted by Charmaine

Thank you for all your kind words, especially Playman and CeiResident.

You are most welcome....we are trying to tell your our own point of view!

All that matters to me is that this relationships turns out to be ok.

Glad to hear about that!
I should be taking solace in the fact that she has given up the father of her child to be with me. But my pessimistic nature does not allow me to think of anything other than the fact that she only made her choice because of practical reasons, not romantic ones. She did admit that she still has feelings for him and these feelings just don't die overnight. It hurts to hear that but at least she's being truthful. But she also did say that she probably loves me more than she loves him now. "How are you ever able to love 2 men at the same time?" I questioned her. "It's so normal." she replied. Maybe it's just a Thai thing.

Hmmmmm that is why some guys have mistress and still love their wife like mad....hahahahah!

As for the job thing, I do acknowledge that asking her about her job incessantly probably irritates her more than it assures, and I know that some white lies just have to be told if she doesn't want to invite trouble. Maybe I should just stop asking about her job altogether and accept the fact that these things happen. I tell her to take care at work, try not to get drunk if she can and "protect your body as much as possible". Is that too much to ask?

Very reasonable......!

Once again, thank you everyone for your kind responses. It makes me feel not alone because, simply put, within my circle of friends I have no one else to turn to. Stereotypical comments like "You cannot get a Singapore girlfriend so go and find Thai girlfriend right?" and "Thai girls only know how to cheat money, don't be stupid" are typical and I'm frankly sick and tired of speaking with people who don't understand.

I didn't choose. I fell in love. She could have been WL or a non-WL, a Thai or a Japanese. All I know is that I met her and never looked back.

I understand...I have though it more than once......!

http://sammyboy.today/3131332-post1350.html

Just to share some of my experience....don't take it as an example but just for your thought.

[adidas88]

Hi All,

I'm happy that my attempts to revive this fledging thread has resulted in a flurry of pats-on-the-back and "How have you been all this while" greetings. It's heartwarming! For the sake of argument, I have decided to pose a few random tidbit of questions for experienced Thai relationship gurus to flame or ponder upon.
bro charmaine ... i'm surprise to see u r still pondering over this matter but i understand where u r coming from .. i was in ur situation at one point of my life ... i hope i can share my experiences with u here

- Has it been proven that you can never, ever change a Thai girl? I know lying is an inherent part of their lifestyle, but my girlfriend has recently "swore to me on her mother's life" that she would never tell me another lie, ever again. I am still skeptical because I know that you can never change someone overnight. That swear might well be another lie.
Yes .. it's almost impossible to change a thai gal .. ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE BUT NOT DEFINATE ..
It's their culture and especially those who make a living in the entertainment arena ...
Swearing is not common as they believe it's a bad omen .. thus most will avoid doing that unless they dun really care at all ...

How are you ever able to dive into a serious relationship if you can't trust your other half a hundred per cent?
if u cannot trust ur the other half 100% .. then this relationship is not going to last ... the inevtiable will happen ..

- I've read countless other stories of farangs who have been duped by cunning, expertly-crafted webs of deceit spun by Thai girls. In some instances, the farang boyfriend had already been introduced to her network of friends, colleagues and even visited provinces and parents to ask for hand in marriage but which later turned out to be elaborate hoaxes - put it simply, everybody is in on the act, including her mother and father. I am expected to meet her parents the next time I visit and I am half-wondering if this sounds all-too familiar. Granted though that I've never sent her a single cent, this does seem like too much work on only a potential money-spinner like me considering it has been going on for a year now.
there r also stories of successful marriage with thai WL or FL .. though the success rate is extremely low ... but not impossible ..
it takes 2 hands to clap .. to make the marriage or relationship to work ..
trust is the main word in any relationship ...

- Am I supposed to be happy when my girlfriend hardly ever says sweet things to me? Maybe I've been all too used to it based on my past experiences in relationships, but this one feels more than a little strange. I know I should be more weary when she becomes too liberal with them and calling me tirak all over the place, but she seems like the other extreme - she's almost reluctant, and takes painful effort to avoid, saying these things. It's almost as if she doesn't have feelings for me and feels weird saying it to someone she doesn't love. Or am I overly sensitive?
this is thai culture ... thai gals do not like to whisper sweet words or give small kisses especially in public areas .. they feel such things are senseless ..
thai ppl r very proud ppl ... they always want to give the best impression ...
it's a very strange culture .. even the WL or FL, they do not feel ashame of what they r doing ..

- What really goes on in G-Clubs? Her daily reports to me smell more than a little fishy. She claims that on a typical night there is only a little touching involved, almost no hugging and definitely no hanky-panky of any sort, and most of the time she and her colleagues are just sitting down and pouring drinks with a hand on their customer's thigh. While it's extremely easy to believe her and move on, my experiences in the G-Club scene have been very different. I see men's hands all over the place, too much hugging going on and in almost all cases the other girls do nothing about trying to protect themselves from being molested. Should I trust her or am I just I self-delusional?
this is the difficult part for u .. let's be honest ...
as a man, do u allowed ur gf or wife to go ard having sex with other man ??
if u truly love her .. r u able to accept that ??
if she truly love u .. will she do that ??
like what bro NakaSky said .... for all we know, she's probably having a dick in her pussy while texting u ...

Basically, these questions should give everyone a clear indication that I don't trust her a hundred per cent. I am able to contact her at any time with her picking up every time and texting back almost immediately, talk daily (either online or through sms) and she texts me every night after she reaches home to tell me she's alright (although even that could be a scam because she could be doing that from anywhere - even with another man beside him and I wouldn't know). She's the one trying now and I'm the one freaking out. Maybe reading too many horror stories on the perils of stupid farangs falling in love with Thai bar-girls does take its toll. I actually feel guilty about this.[/QUOTE]

from what u wrote here .. she's trying and doing her part ...
maybe she really want to get out from her present shit and start a new life ... maybe it could be some other agendas which only she knows ..
there's so many unknowns ...

i believe u need to do some soul searching and deep thinking ....
do u really love her or it's just LUST ...
if u really love her and want to marry her, what's ur plan ??
u need to start thinking how to make the realtionship work instead of pondering questions u probably r speculating all the time ...
it won't work ... it will fail miserably ...

u need to think how and what u can do to stop all these ...
if u truly love her .. then give her a new life ...
if not ... move on with ur life and leave her ...

Instead of focusing on looking for the right partner,
Focused on being the right partner.

No one falls in love by choice, it is by chance ..
No one stays in love by chance, it is by work ...
And no one fall out of love by chance, it is by choice.

[Charmaine]

Originally Posted by Playman

I understand...I have though it more than once......!

http://sammyboy.today/3131332-post1350.html

Just to share some of my experience....don't take it as an example but just for your thought.

That's an extremely touching story. Mine pales in comparison. I'm not sure if I'll ever have the courage to tell a girl I love to "just go". But everything seems to work out ok now and I guess everything takes time.