Advise please

[Charmaine]

Thank you all for your blessings and well-wishes. I love this forum because I can pour my soul to the world, inner-most feelings that nobody knows or cares about, but the people in this forum listen.

I know it's cheesy and mushy, but brotherhood rules. It really does.

I'm heading down in a day and I've already made plans to catch up with one or two forummers while I'm there. She hasn't contacted me since our last quarrel and she knows when I'm arriving and everything but it seems like she doesn't really give a shit if I go look for her anymore. It's just as well - I can drown my sorrows by burying my face into another woman's boobs. Not the worst thing in the world, is it.

To Junnie about sadfucks littering the streets waiting for their girlfriends to finish fucking other men: That's about the lowest level a man can afford to go, but somehow I'm not surprised. Bangkok has a a lot to offer for everyone, but it can also go the other way - the city has the potential to suck you dry, both emotionally and financially (although somehow the former just feels so much more painful to bear). You're right - I'm extremely inexperienced, not only from a long-distance relationship standpoint, but from a cross-cultural one as well. And we've not even got started on the emotional baggage that comes with getting involved with a WL. It's triple-bogey for me, and it's a painful learning experience. But we all go through it, don't we?

I guess this rubs off me in a worse way than it does the average Joe because I'm a sensitive, pussy-like emotional train-wreck. You're looking at someone who once infactuated with his colleague (in my defense, a really hot one) for a couple of months while being in a relationship just because she told me casually during a drinking session that she would have seriously considered me if I were single. I'm a royal mind-fuck and easily manipulated by women. I should never have been in the whole Bangkok scene, but it's too easy to talk about what-ifs now.

I'm not ashamed to admit it - I've not had a good nights' sleep. I keep thinking about that first kiss. How is it possible that something that felt so right at the time turn out so wrong? Didn't it mean anything to her at all? Right now, I'm blindly chasing reoccurances of sweet memories that should probably be left best at that. Maybe that's the only thing I have to snap out of.

I look forward to reporting on my latest trip once I'm back. Thank you to all again.

[Maitong Kit Mak]

Originally Posted by junnie

Except for mine. Mine is ABAC graduate and never go out with other customers except me. Mine is special. I am special.

Hi Bro..what about Chula & Ramkamkhaeng Uni graduate ones? Same as your Abac graduate one? Mine is from Chula and Ramkamkhaeng leh...How?

[Si Geena]

KNN boh jio. I didn't know we should have been chatting here instead.

Well, I also kenna jialat jialat. Going to head over to her place tomorrow evening and on Monday, she dropped the "You don't understand me." bomb and started to tell me that we should go our own ways after this trip.

How lovely. I already buy Deng Li Jun for the mother liao.

[adidas88]

Originally Posted by Si Geena

KNN boh jio. I didn't know we should have been chatting here instead.

Well, I also kenna jialat jialat. Going to head over to her place tomorrow evening and on Monday, she dropped the "You don't understand me." bomb and started to tell me that we should go our own ways after this trip.

How lovely. I already buy Deng Li Jun for the mother liao.

Oops ... another bro falling into the KC trap ...
"You don't understand me" ... this statement is their textbook guide ...
other textbook statement guides ... "Phone no credit" ... "Phone no battery, forgot to charge" .... "I am in hometown, no service here" ... "my mother or father or grandmother or grandfather or brother or sister in hospital .. need to go back" ...

if u hear any of this statement from the gal ... u know what's happening ..

[Maitong Kit Mak]

Originally Posted by adidas88

Oops ... another bro falling into the KC trap ...
"You don't understand me" ... this statement is their textbook guide ...
other textbook statement guides ... "Phone no credit" ... "Phone no battery, forgot to charge" .... "I am in hometown, no service here" ... "my mother or father or grandmother or grandfather or brother or sister in hospital .. need to go back" ...

if u hear any of this statement from the gal ... u know what's happening ..

Yes..definitely from someone who had been thru all these shit & sounds familiar rite!

[IOWA]

we are all seeking a balance between what we give out and what we get in return, being love or $

[Mean Boy]

Originally Posted by Si Geena

KNN boh jio. I didn't know we should have been chatting here instead.

Well, I also kenna jialat jialat. Going to head over to her place tomorrow evening and on Monday, she dropped the "You don't understand me." bomb and started to tell me that we should go our own ways after this trip.

How lovely. I already buy Deng Li Jun for the mother liao.

Bro Si Geena,

Hope everything is fine for both of you.
Wish you all the best, Good Luck...

[adidas88]

Originally Posted by Maitong Kit Mak

Yes..definitely from someone who had been thru all these shit & sounds familiar rite!

affirmative bro ... same same ... mai ben rai ...sanuk sanuk ..

Originally Posted by IOWA

we are all seeking a balance between what we give out and what we get in return, being love or $ ..

my recommendation when in this land ... don't try to look for love ....

[Charmaine]

Hi to all friends and Thailand veterans,

I just touched down an hour ago and thought it would be appropriate to update the sadfuck thread for the benefit of anyone remotely interested in pursuing my story. I'll go into detail when I'm more freshened up and ready to share, but I felt the most important bits should come first before I call it a night. Yes, we sorted it all out and I now know where I stand - nowhere. But I'm happy enough, only because she has been absolutely honest with me, not withholding any information or pulling back any punches when she spoke. That's probably all that I've ever needed from her. She's right - it's just too difficult to have a meaningful relationship at this stage of her, and my, life. She's the mature one - I was the kid all along. And yes, I got laid. She's probably got the tightest (and freshest-smelling) pussy I've ever buried my penis into and the chemistry just made the sex so much more enjoyable - it wasn't so much fucking than it was passionate love-making, and that's what made it so beautiful. It's one hell of an expensive pussy but worth every cent. We frenched all night long and was rewarded with a cum-in-the-mouth without a condom this morning. She is amazing in bed and arguably the best I've ever had. We had a fabulous time in Koh Samui and one of the most pristine beaches I've ever visited - nothing in the world beats having a romantic candlelight seafood dinner on a mat and low table with beer in your hand, a gorgeous woman by your side and the sea wave just 2 metres away from you.

I've had a fantastic trip. Thank you all for being there for me all this while.

[yinyang]

Originally Posted by Charmaine

..She's the mature one - I was the kid all along. ..chemistry just made the sex so much more enjoyable - it wasn't so much fucking than it was passionate love-making, and that's what made it so beautiful. .....nothing in the world beats having a romantic candlelight seafood dinner on a mat and low table with beer in your hand, a gorgeous woman by your side and the sea wave just 2 metres away from you.

Great stuff, good to hear yours culminated with (fulfilled?) credits. Holistic experience, despite hangups sure beats commercial dos. Who knows what happens tomorrow? Hopefully, no heart-aches for you.

Btw, what's the commute logistics to Koh Samui like and resort place?

[Maitong Kit Mak]

Originally Posted by Charmaine

I've had a fantastic trip. Thank you all for being there for me all this while.

Welcome back to the real world bro

[etct88]

Originally Posted by Charmaine

Hi to all friends and Thailand veterans,
...... nothing in the world beats having a romantic candlelight seafood dinner on a mat and low table with beer in your hand, a gorgeous woman by your side and the sea wave just 2 metres away from you.

I've had a fantastic trip. Thank you all for being there for me all this while.

Hi Bro C,

Glad to see you having a wonderful ending. You are really blessed. To have an ending or rather a new begining like your's is truely fairy tale.

Now you are wiser, and you wil be a good big brother here....

Yes, the waves 2 meters aways, I felt that 20 years ago...........

et

[adidas88]

Originally Posted by Charmaine

I just touched down an hour ago and thought it would be appropriate to update the sadfuck thread for the benefit of anyone remotely interested in pursuing my story. We had a fabulous time in Koh Samui and one of the most pristine beaches I've ever visited - nothing in the world beats having a romantic candlelight seafood dinner on a mat and low table with beer in your hand, a gorgeous woman by your side and the sea wave just 2 metres away from you.
I've had a fantastic trip. Thank you all for being there for me all this while.

have a good time and enjoy urself bro ...
forget abt the agenda and past .... ur objective is to have fun and bonk ..
so just bonk and have fun ... no agendas ..
good luck ...

[Charmaine]

In a bid not to bore our fellow men with the specifics of my pathetic love story, I'll attempt to summarise what happened during my latest trip in the purest, most concise terms. On the first night we made each other angry. On the second we made up, on the third made merry and on the fourth we made love.

Yup, that about sums it up aptly.

I still think of her now and then, but I now realise it's more due to my reluctance to let go of the wonderful times I have with her whenever I am in Bangkok more than the fact that I want her to be mine. I guess I'll be just as happy now if she told me one day that she's found herself a good man and quit the scene. I've realised that it doesn't have to be me.

I think a lot of it had to do with the fact that I never "had" her physically, and that made me weak in the mind. I couldn't understand how I could lose to the others. I know she's slept around with at least a few before me, but I couldn't wrap my head around why I couldn't be her next one. Now that I have, I actually feel a bit calmer. Maybe I was never in love with her - I was just too afraid to lose, which resulted in the culmination of my obsession for her. Maybe all I wanted was her body.

In this trip, I found out a lot of things that I didn't find out before about her - she's had her nose done before, she's smart but rash, and she's in truth not as perfect as I've always made her out to be when I'm thinking about her.

She's a nice girl, but it can never happen. The sex was great, and she's one of the best I've ever had, but the show must go on. I've never regretted her being in my life, but I'll never be as obsessed about her as I was before.

One thing I don't understand, though, is - I know she likes me, but I'll never understand why she said no when I asked her to be my girl. Maybe she's just too nice and she really believes she's not good enough for me (which she always reiterates but I only half-believed). Maybe she really just wants me to be happy with another girl. Maybe she's not had her share of fun and don't want to be tied down too fast. Or maybe she's really just the mature one who understands that a potential relationship between me and her, a WL, can never happen on a practical level.

"When I quit.. when I still have no one and you still have no one, and if you still want me then..", she whispered softly, almost shyly, while looking up at me with the saddest pair of eyes (or a performance befitting the best award-winning Hollywood actress by a country mile) "Then we can try again."

Maybe she's just the sweetest girl in the world. Funnily enough, I don't think I care all that much now.

[IOWA]

Happily ever after!