Sad sad day. Thread on lousy FL to avoid n recommended FL killed

[NormalDick]

Agree with brudder here. FLs especially popular ones macam proud and like they are doing you a big favor to let you screw them. Case in point is Venus under huangting stable. Tried to fix appointment with her and she essentially said "I got this slot - want take if not then FO". Who to blame? We lah! We write FR said she damn solid so she got more business than she can handle so can yaya. So while we can write in and share our grievances, bottom line - accept it or quit patronizing them since we were partly responsible for causing the dissatisfactions here.

Originally Posted by sporeknight76

Totally agree wif u bro. They shld knw tat "They hav only 1 mouth, don overeat n choke". They r going by "who come 1st, svc him 1st". Wat apptment is bullshit. Do things fast n chop chop, svc next one available". I hav encounter too many esp those wif their own rm. Tats y those who only do rm, i hav rule them out totally. Hygiene is another reason. Estimate waiting time 20-45min.

I thin TS shld educate those FL to keep to their apptment wif bros who confirmed. Thoze fly aeroplane shld blacklist them. Those late 30min or watever, shld let them knw can only do 1 shot. There r some bros who waited too long, face black black, may write bad FR on them. These is too risky s most chiongsters read tis forum.

A FL for example can svc 6-8 customer per day. Easy easy 600-1200 per day. Imagine hw much they can earn per mth minus great aunt visit. U guys do the calculations. 1 mth can hit 8-10k aft all expenses deducted.

Y so greedy till make their customers fed up, complain here there. Wont do them any gd.

[longwinter]

Originally Posted by NormalDick

Agree with brudder here. FLs especially popular ones macam proud and like they are doing you a big favor to let you screw them. Case in point is Venus under huangting stable. Tried to fix appointment with her and she essentially said "I got this slot - want take if not then FO". Who to blame? We lah! We write FR said she damn solid so she got more business than she can handle so can yaya. So while we can write in and share our grievances, bottom line - accept it or quit patronizing them since we were partly responsible for causing the dissatisfactions here.

Agree that venus is quite dao and sibei yaya..attempt to book her 3 times and she give those yaya replies machiam she very in demand. But instead I go to find other girls.

[Completeidiot]

Off FL diet for 2 weeks now. Back to legal scene in GL ... twice. Last time on Tues b4 flying off. To be honest,

1. Miss the excitement of getting a FL for the first time
2. Legal WL has more commercial feel n looks r ok only
3. But service a lot more predictable n enjoyable

So sticking to legal WL for a while.

Had a short trip to Bangkok for just one night. I have to stay that despite Ye young age, the attitude n service level are a lot better. Stayed at Intercon n there was a ton of gals on Wechat. Just picked one, had dinner, agreed on rate n did the deed

Happy bonking this weekend

[Siasucks]

give everyone a break and chill.. FL jumble up appt is their wrong also.. Customer keep FL hanging and fly kite also customer wrong.. Everything takes 2 hand to clap. Always there's a cause which leads to such endings..

if we want to blame who till the end, it will actually never end one..

- there's F-up FLs 排appointments 满满heck caring who will arrive.
- there's F-up customers called/smsed and in the end say ok, 5pm, wait i call you. or say ok 5pm, but later i call. (if we all touch our hearts, we also know most of us got do before such things)

i been a TS few years back, i been a chiongster few few years back, i been a normal first timer few few few few years back..

Over these years i have seen these and perhaps also done it (my bad)

- send out sms to 5-6 FLs to make booking. see which one replies first. (sure many bros do like this), then suay suay 3rd choice replies first. then subsequently 2nd choice replies 30secs after 3rd choice, then 1st choice replies after 2nd choice. i believe all those will know what u will tell the FLs.. wait, i get back to you. once after another.. so..... who do we blame?

- call up, chit chat, ask this ask that. no obligations for sure. but when the point u said, OK I COME SEE U AT 5PM. Then later flip thru forum again see another C-D CUPPER! small head take over again.. then msg C cupper, she mostly on also.. then u msg previous FL, say wait let 1st FL know later.. So.... again if 1st FL wait for you to confirm back again, and u decide not to take 1st FL, then who do we blame again?

FL cons
- becos it's becoming a ? for most of them whether customer will eventually arrive or not at the said timing, they will tend to keep at hand 1-2 extra bookings

- rushed session, no excuses.. was against it. but FL don't listen nowadays from what i know.. put the blame on fly kites, high rental, customers not alot..

there's always a reason to whatever happens, so don't totally kill them out.. last time they have been doing quite a good job, listening to TS teachings this and that.. but as time progresses. things happen and gets out of hand.. we can blame them totally.. but some of us been doing great as responsible customers, but honestly, as a FL point of view, it's 20% of the whole chionging community.. I have been in their shoes alittle.. not totally, but from what i can see, there's alot of unresponsible chiongsters, which makes up a great numbers.. these are black sheeps.. so how to still have the good old days?

[chewyfruit]

Have to agree with that in recent years most have the habit of sms and making appointment with different girls at once. And certainly it takes two hands to clap. While girl don't reply sms some also kpkb asking why not responding to them.

And one thing that we all must understand is that the working environment and method in China are different from Singapore. It will take some time for them to get used handling sms and call.

The worst all to blame was like mine case. Waited 3 hours. Repeatedly pushing my appointment from 8plus to 11pm. End up telling me to book tomorrow. There are a few miserable bonk that I meet. As a TS am unable to openly warned to all bros or to post FRs like this. Unless the fl is really shit to the worst like her. Which I had posted in lsb before.

Originally Posted by Siasucks

give everyone a break and chill.. FL jumble up appt is their wrong also.. Customer keep FL hanging and fly kite also customer wrong.. Everything takes 2 hand to clap. Always there's a cause which leads to such endings..

if we want to blame who till the end, it will actually never end one..

- there's F-up FLs 排appointments 满满heck caring who will arrive.
- there's F-up customers called/smsed and in the end say ok, 5pm, wait i call you. or say ok 5pm, but later i call. (if we all touch our hearts, we also know most of us got do before such things)

i been a TS few years back, i been a chiongster few few years back, i been a normal first timer few few few few years back..

Over these years i have seen these and perhaps also done it (my bad)

- send out sms to 5-6 FLs to make booking. see which one replies first. (sure many bros do like this), then suay suay 3rd choice replies first. then subsequently 2nd choice replies 30secs after 3rd choice, then 1st choice replies after 2nd choice. i believe all those will know what u will tell the FLs.. wait, i get back to you. once after another.. so..... who do we blame?

- call up, chit chat, ask this ask that. no obligations for sure. but when the point u said, OK I COME SEE U AT 5PM. Then later flip thru forum again see another C-D CUPPER! small head take over again.. then msg C cupper, she mostly on also.. then u msg previous FL, say wait let 1st FL know later.. So.... again if 1st FL wait for you to confirm back again, and u decide not to take 1st FL, then who do we blame again?

FL cons
- becos it's becoming a ? for most of them whether customer will eventually arrive or not at the said timing, they will tend to keep at hand 1-2 extra bookings

- rushed session, no excuses.. was against it. but FL don't listen nowadays from what i know.. put the blame on fly kites, high rental, customers not alot..

there's always a reason to whatever happens, so don't totally kill them out.. last time they have been doing quite a good job, listening to TS teachings this and that.. but as time progresses. things happen and gets out of hand.. we can blame them totally.. but some of us been doing great as responsible customers, but honestly, as a FL point of view, it's 20% of the whole chionging community.. I have been in their shoes alittle.. not totally, but from what i can see, there's alot of unresponsible chiongsters, which makes up a great numbers.. these are black sheeps.. so how to still have the good old days?

[chewyfruit]

That's is why my regular rarely post FR unlike before. They worried unable to rtf. But reasonably i think writing up a FR is okay as long as you don't over do it. Keep it simple and straight forward does the job.

And mostly those sites FRs can easily be clone and fake it because they need not require any sort of email for user identity. At least prevent customers or Ts from favouritism to fake out numerous FR

Some girls whose business who aren't as good. Always asked me to PS for them make it skinner make it prettier. I got pester for weeks till they kp me or in favour of going my site. They want money want business. But I still have to stick to my limitation and photo reliability.

One thing I clearly know is my audience is spoiled for choices. Those girls on the lower standard in terms of appearance fall off.

Originally Posted by NormalDick

Agree with brudder here. FLs especially popular ones macam proud and like they are doing you a big favor to let you screw them. Case in point is Venus under huangting stable. Tried to fix appointment with her and she essentially said "I got this slot - want take if not then FO". Who to blame? We lah! We write FR said she damn solid so she got more business than she can handle so can yaya. So while we can write in and share our grievances, bottom line - accept it or quit patronizing them since we were partly responsible for causing the dissatisfactions here.

[avfan]

Originally Posted by Siasucks

I have been in their shoes alittle.. not totally, but from what i can see, there's alot of unresponsible chiongsters, which makes up a great numbers.. these are black sheeps.. so how to still have the good old days?

In my POV, everybody has a part to play :-


1. First of all, FLs themselves must hv a sense of commitment/honesty and a right attitude if they want to ply this trade (assuming they enter this line out of "voluntarily"). They must be aware that their main job nature is to service men. So cut all the craps with cannot this, cannot that and stuffs. Behind close doors, of cuz, any "request" u want from the FL thats between the two of u. If u're a hero, u want raw wif her (or even SM), and she can agree then just go ahead.

But at least, basic allowances got to be there. If no frenching, no boob-sucking, no painting etc allowed then whats the point. Not all bros will be contented wif just screwing the pussy. Last but not least, rush service is definitely a no-no.


2. Second, OKTs or TS hv to do their job "properly". Not just take the FLs money, and then everything bo chap. Be truthful of what written on the thread. Be firm to the gals. If they can't commit or provide maximum allowances for eg. can't french men passionately/GFE or let them eat/finger her pussy, cim etc then tell them FL line is not for them.


3. And thirdly, if bros (those genuine cheongters) who relli cant make it on time or need to cancel appt then pls hv the courtesy to inform the FL in advance. If u r late and she told u that she will not be able to service u for the full hr, then make a chop chop decision whether to go ahead ur appt wif her anot. Dun leave her hanging in the air.


If every FL (esp those chio ones) can provide genuine all-rounder services, I doubt many ppl will hv the chances to aeroplane. Those genuine cheongsters will alredy can't wait/gian to chiong and "queue" up to get that precious slots. I hv to queue up to a week when making appt wif Bing-er last time.

Again like I said, everybody hv a part to play. Any break in the cycle for eg. TS post not truthful stats, FL charge too high till not much business thus giving chances to pilot ginnas etc then of cuz noting will work.

Just my 2-cents.

[nonSen5es]

Very insightful thoughts

[LongTorpedo]

Originally Posted by avfan

In my POV, everybody has a part to play :-


1. First of all, FLs themselves must hv a sense of commitment/honesty and a right attitude if they want to ply this trade (assuming they enter this line out of "voluntarily"). They must be aware that their main job nature is to service men. So cut all the craps with cannot this, cannot that and stuffs. Behind close doors, of cuz, any "request" u want from the FL thats between the two of u. If u're a hero, u want raw wif her (or even SM), and she can agree then just go ahead.

But at least, basic allowances got to be there. If no frenching, no boob-sucking, no painting etc allowed then whats the point. Not all bros will be contented wif just screwing the pussy. Last but not least, rush service is definitely a no-no.


2. Second, OKTs or TS hv to do their job "properly". Not just take the FLs money, and then everything bo chap. Be truthful of what written on the thread. Be firm to the gals. If they can't commit or provide maximum allowances for eg. can't french men passionately/GFE or let them eat/finger her pussy, cim etc then tell them FL line is not for them.


3. And thirdly, if bros (those genuine cheongters) who relli cant make it on time or need to cancel appt then pls hv the courtesy to inform the FL in advance. If u r late and she told u that she will not be able to service u for the full hr, then make a chop chop decision whether to go ahead ur appt wif her anot. Dun leave her hanging in the air.


If every FL (esp those chio ones) can provide genuine all-rounder services, I doubt many ppl will hv the chances to aeroplane. Those genuine cheongsters will alredy can't wait/gian to chiong and "queue" up to get that precious slots. I hv to queue up to a week when making appt wif Bing-er last time.

Again like I said, everybody hv a part to play. Any break in the cycle for eg. TS post not truthful stats, FL charge too high till not much business thus giving chances to pilot ginnas etc then of cuz noting will work.

Just my 2-cents.

Bro, you speak my mind. Agree with you completely.

These days, I felt like doing this. Make apptmt with FL. When open door, first thing ask her, can fench? can paint? can suck boob? If all no, and her ad said yes, I'll say thank you and walk away.

[GN007SG]

Originally Posted by LongTorpedo

Bro, you speak my mind. Agree with you completely.

These days, I felt like doing this. Make apptmt with FL. When open door, first thing ask her, can fench? can paint? can suck boob? If all no, and her ad said yes, I'll say thank you and walk away.

but sadly if I were to ask this straight in their face at meet up, the feel will be damn commercial in the session

[loneyheart]

Originally Posted by yoshii

Then maybe they should try not to reply so many customers if they can't keep track. Bro, CF, perhaps you can use this as a test for your girls. If they can't handle the hardship of replying and keeping track then perhaps they should find another job.

it's a service industry la bro, it should be expected and they should learn to deal with it. At least if they are really unhappy they can push the job away and refuse to work. Where someone else working in customer service will still have to suck thumb, smile and continue with their jobs.

well said bro

[loneyheart]

Originally Posted by LongTorpedo

Bro, you speak my mind. Agree with you completely.

These days, I felt like doing this. Make apptmt with FL. When open door, first thing ask her, can fench? can paint? can suck boob? If all no, and her ad said yes, I'll say thank you and walk away.

nom for me if thread post can french n met dum allow or sense ans calll n quick job .... I just dress up n leave wo paying a single penny

just let them know straight on her face
Want My Money Give Me Honey
This Dum This Cant U dum Get A PENNY

Of cause I leave b4 action n always standby 2nd n 3rd numbers

[LongTorpedo]

Originally Posted by GN007SG

but sadly if I were to ask this straight in their face at meet up, the feel will be damn commercial in the session

It's better than you have taken off your clothes, shower, then she starts to lay down her terms (no kiss, no paint etc)... By then, you're committed, and small head wants to carry on with the show, even though big head knows it's going to be a lousy show...

[avfan]

Originally Posted by LongTorpedo

Bro, you speak my mind. Agree with you completely.

These days, I felt like doing this. Make apptmt with FL. When open door, first thing ask her, can fench? can paint? can suck boob? If all no, and her ad said yes, I'll say thank you and walk away.

I find this not so feasible.. might as well ask her to write on a piece of cardboard her do's and dont's and hang it on her door.. surely u dun expect every bros who look her up to ask these questions..

Originally Posted by GN007SG

but sadly if I were to ask this straight in their face at meet up, the feel will be damn commercial in the session

Engaging a FL for a bonk is a commercial thing by itself (unless u becum her lover and she give u free fuck everytime u two meet).. When u're paying for a service, it is a transaction..

Commercial feel or not is not the issue.. the question is, can she do the required actions anot..? For example, to me, I dun care whether she must hv the "feel" thing first anot in order to french me.. As long u state there frenching is allowed, I will expect her to go along wif me when I'm trying to french her passionately.. It doesn't matter if she really like frenching me anot, its just another commercial transaction at the end of the day..

[avfan]

Originally Posted by loneyheart

nom for me if thread post can french n met dum allow or sense ans calll n quick job .... I just dress up n leave wo paying a single penny

No french allow, can kiss (or a peck I wud call it) only.. u ok wif that??

On a serious note, I relli wonder what the heck wif the kiss thing.. those FLs relli think we will be contented wif just a peck on their lips.. the worst ones will even make their lips/mouth a no-touch zone..