Hooking girls in Indonesia instead of cheonging

[Wizrd]

Originally Posted by henabi

Wow... Well... Someday somehow it's gonna happen to one of us >.< it's just a matter of how bad the situation is...
Previously one SBF shared his story of fucking his wife's younger sister and luckily that girl was matured enough not to make a big ho ha out of it...and decided to step away from this kinda relationship. Otherwise it may have been MUCH MUCH worse.

Wiz, yours still alright. Even thou it's your ex camp mate. Plus you haven't seen him for so many yrs.... May not turn out to be as bad as you have imagined it to be. PrObably just a few punches and kicks...And ask you to fuck off

Hahahaha...thanks bro....

Yup...go up the mountain enough times...sure will meet tiger....

So...it is how we deal with the tiger that matters...don't because of it, become afraid of the mountain...No...we are men...the mountain still must go...but let's find ways to tame the tiger...

Yes bro...please read on to fully understand why I am sooooo stressed out by this...

Cheers...


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[Wizrd]

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Hey hey bros and sis...

Haven't posted here in a while...

Below is an analogy I wrote and sent to a friend regarding relationships...it's for another site and after sending it...I thought it might be interesting to share here to see what the feedback might be...

It applies to either gender and is my honest take on human nature and the evolution of any relationship...if it provokes some thoughts, great....if it gives you a different insight, fantastic...if it does nothing for you, no worries, just read it as if I'm talking cock, ok?...


Oh crap, there is a word limit so I'm breaking it into 2 posts...


Cheers....


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I remember when I first got my iPad...I couldn't be happier with IT. Man, all the great stuff I can do with IT. IT allows me to combine many things I often did, from a few different media, into one place and saves me a lot of trouble so that I can focus my time and effort on other things in life. IT seems to know what I like and always accommodating to my needs.

In the early days, I rather not sleep when I can hold and play with IT...we spent many pleasurable days and nights together, sometimes, we have so much fun that we don't even leave my room. I declared to everyone I know and to anyone who will listen...I love my iPad. IT has changed my life forever and I love IT!


Sure, I have to spend a lot of time and effort to learn quite a few things about IT. If not handled properly, IT can get temperamental and stops doing what I want IT to do. Often times, it is down to my misunderstanding of how to get the best out of IT. Over time, I got better at making IT work properly. However, a lot of the inputs are not intuitive and I wish they gave me a proper manual so that I can learn every little thing about making IT more suited to me. Alas, this is not available and I have to fumble around using trial and error, just like everybody else has to.


When in the zone, IT is the best thing in my life and I cannot understand how I had lived so many years before without IT. The best part is...IT auto completes my password and I do not have to fill in my password by hand ever again...But occasionally, IT drives me up the wall. Wifi will drop out, missed text messages and lost emails. Why is IT being so difficult. I just want my things organised and orderly and done the way I like. But noooo, IT has its own way of handing me stuff, and often handed me crap.


As annoying as IT is sometimes, I would not change IT for the world. It is the best thing since slice bread and I gladly take all its flaws and live with them. I love my iPad and cannot imagine living without IT ever again. As much as I complaint about IT sometimes, life with IT is still pretty awesome. So I accept the minor inconveniences because overall, IT is great. I spend money on IT, and devoted my life to enjoying time spent with IT. I bring it to work, to school, to meals, and to bed. I show IT off to my friends, my family and anyone who may be interested in this fantastic new item in my life.

But...IT is not perfect...and as much as I can understand and willing to accept...sometimes it runs out of battery...sometimes it freezes...sometime it reboots...almost always when I'm doing something important. Yeah, of course, IT doesn't know nor care what is important to me, but I hate it when IT clears out what I'm working on without warning. Can IT not be more considerate?


I joined forums and surf websites to find out more...I checked with friends with similar problems...is it something I am doing wrong? What can I do to make things better? The opinions and advice are as varied as people around. There is no real consensus...some suggest that I throw IT out and go windows...Errrm, I'm not comfortable with that....some say that I have to live with some of the flaws and accept IT for better or for worse...after all, they tell me...you already bought IT, might as well continue to use IT...ok, I know they are right. I have already invested so much time and effort, and am still paying the apple store by instalment... so yeah, I might as well make the best of IT.


After a while, things got better...or perhaps I'm just getting used to IT's idiosyncrasies... and soon I know IT fairly well and can get most of what I want out of IT without much problem...I've been thinking about jailbreaking. The stories I hear from people who have done that are exciting. There is so much more I can do with IT once we jailbreak. I can make IT mine and unique. No one else will have one exactly the same as mine.


There is a warning though...once I decided and jailbreak my iPad, the warrantee is void. This iPad will be my responsibility forever. I cannot exchange IT or send IT back without huge costs involved. That scared me a little bit, but hey, if most people are jailbreaking and mostly happy doing that...and if the cool stories of the result of a jailbreak is true...I want a piece of that action.


(To be continued...)


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[Wizrd]

(Cont)


Ok...lets do it. I followed the instructions from friends and all the different forums and made my iPad over...I asked questions and discussed the pros and cons of different approaches and found one that I am comfortable with. As expected, IT resisted or had other ideas at the beginning; failed to boot, scrambled screen, shutting ITself off and so on, but I got my way at the end. Wow, after jailbreaking with IT, IT is even more loveable.


I spent many days and weeks modifying it...one small step at a time. After all, no one knows exactly how much it can handle....the forum seniors say every iPad is slightly different, and I don't want IT to freak out and break down on me. I handled it with care and slowly made it into the bestest in the world...well, to me anyways because it is modified to exactly the way that I like.


But over time...don't know why...somehow IT doesn't feel so solid any more...don't get me wrong...IT is still great and can do all the usual functions I needed, and I still love IT. But looking at other models and brands...they seem to be able to do so much more. I played with a display tablet (let's be discrete and not name names ok?) and that one can do things I didn't know were possible, wow wee...after that, I decided to check the market out...what else is out there??


From a good forum site, where all of the jailbreakers share tips and discuss how to improve our lives by making our beloved even better...some declared their love for their own iPads and vow to never change brand or model....some curse the iPad and point out all the problem IT comes with...some suggested keeping the iPad but also get a secondary tablet for fun, secretly or not so secretly...and a few have posted stories and photos of owning and playing with multiple devices of all brands and model, sometimes a few at a time...linking them, joining them, all playing together...there are even jailbreakers who shared and swapped devices for fun... OMG...is that all really possible? Maybe I should find out more...


As I dug through the market...I found one tablet that looks so great, with or without the cover, with a shape that is just right for holding too, a serious love at first sight type of tablet....then I saw another tablet that can do things seriously fast, blinding speed for maximum output...and one other tablet has such a great memory, I can use it in so many ways my own iPad cannot give me....they are all great...and I like to try quite a few of them....well, if I can afford the time and money, I would actually like to have them all....just not sure if I have enough energy to keep they all in good condition...


I am not cheating, I tell myself...I never take any of them home...I never spend more than a few minutes with each, and some I only read and fantasise about...the Internet are full of websites showing me all the different models and they are almost always more interesting than my old trusty iPad. I'm ashamed to say that once in a while, I actually use my iPad to serve those sites...plainly in front of IT, I check other tablets out. Strange but IT has not reacted yet but I was reminded of ITs memory...my friend used the word karma...and someday I will get what I deserve...holy crap, should I stop checking around?


But wait. As much as I love my iPad, there are really a lot of things I cannot do with it. Others are more capable or built for specific uses that I like and need. I mean come on, everybody is doing flash nowadays but IT thinks it's disgusting...won't even discuss trying it once...Perhaps I can get another tablet to compliment my beloved iPad. The shared history with my iPad cannot be erased but I have new needs now. I do not know how to bring this up to my iPad so I decided to just get another tablet behind IT's back...and the new tablet is pretty damn fantastic.


I have so much more fun with the new tablet. I cannot tell you how exciting it is...I feel like a teenager again...oh, the exhilaration. I still think of my iPad but often, i'm lost in the moment when I'm with my new tablet. So it came to this...I will bring my new tablet to work, and to meals, and show my new tablet off to friends in the know. My iPad is ok for home use but not much else any more. Not only has IT lost the ability to excite me, I cannot seem to do anything to bring back the good old days...IT is no longer responsive to my touch and tweaks, appearing to me to be content to be left alone. All new activities introduced to allow me to enjoy IT better are usually met with less than lukewarm reactions, and that is if IT was willing to participate in the first place. i find myself spending more time with the new tablet...and you know what?? The best things is, the new tablet doesn't stress me should I decide to change models. Just trade in the new tablet and get an even newer tablet. And when I'm between new tablets, my iPad is still available to fulfil my needs....the best of both worlds...What a life!


However, good times do not lasts...IT is starting to act up more often...IT no longer auto fills my password and I'm back to doing it myself manually. This pisses me off no end...what's the point of having IT then, right? Dropped wifi, poor battery life, lousy performance...I'm starting to think about leaving IT. I hear stories from friends that some of them have long since moved on to an iPad 2...some say that is much better...some say same old shit...don't really know who to believe any more...all I know is I am no longer happy with IT. Some people I know have even moved onto an iPad 3. Holy hell, should I really be stuck with something I no longer loved and feel love from? But the shared history, everyone reminds me...think about how you jailbroke IT back in the day...you took on the warrantee...IT is your responsibility...if not for your iPad, think of the assessories you both have together...a beautiful external battery pack and that gorgeous direct hook-on stereo HiFi...if you discard your iPad, what will become of them???...Yes, all true...and in my heart, even when I'm with a new tablet, a section of my mind and heart still reminisce fondly of my iPad at home...remembering how good we were together...however...the hard truth of being ignored or inconvenienced that I face when I actually spend time with IT tells me that those tender thoughts are just sentimentality...we are never going back to what we were before...and as sad as that is....such is life I guess.


I've stuck with IT for a while longer then I'd like and IT is not getting better. People recommend that I bring IT along to meet an expert to help us resolve our problems...but that didn't help much...the experts kept using and repeating some technical jargons which do not help even if I can understand how to implement them...and to rub salt into serious injury...I notice that these experts usually have pretty new and flashy tablets themselves....Yeah great, you enjoy your life, take money from me and tell me not to upgrade...


Life sucks if I cannot get a new tablet. Even though I have friends who are still devoted to their iPad, I've had enough. I cannot take it any more. Some will call me weak or irresponsible but I think I have the right to be happy. Dragging this situation on benefits no one, and even if it did, no one cares that I am the one who is suffering. If you still love your iPad, more power to you. I want out! With the availability of the many tablets around...I've decided not to jailbreak anymore...it is much better to be able to move on to other new tablets without being stuck with the responsibility and guilt again.


To those who want a tablet...I say go for it...it will be fun and exciting and will give you many hours of joy as well as change your life in positive ways...but...I implore you to think twice...and then think twice again...should you be tempted to jailbreak, tweak, root or in anyway modify your relationship with your tablet into a permanent arrangement. It is not worth the pain and guilt in the long run....just have fun...get the most out of your tablet...and hey, you can only get the best out when you put in the long hours and real love and passion in the first place...real feelings in will get you better satisfaction out in the end...but...but...even when everyone around you suggests and recommends settling down with just one; for your own long term sanity and happiness, please do not bluff yourself into agreeing to any permanent deals ok?


All the best...


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Thanks for reading...


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[SammyNewbie]

Since I followed you here and decided other people would read this,

I'll post the link to my take here too ^_^

http://sammyboy.today/showthr...&postcount=973

[Wizrd]

Originally Posted by SammyNewbie

Since I followed you here and decided other people would read this,

I'll post the link to my take here too ^_^

http://sammyboy.today/showthr...&postcount=973

No worries...

Thanks for reading...

Cheers...


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[henabi]

Great find and a great analogy too.

Kinda spell out the rule of this GAME

[Wizrd]

Originally Posted by henabi

Great find and a great analogy too.

Kinda spell out the rule of this GAME

Great find???

Ah crap...I see where the misunderstanding came from...dang, my England is really going backwards...

Sorry bro...I wrote it...what I meant was that the friend is from another site...and I wrote this to explain why most men and some women have roving eyes...

Cheers bro...I've edited to make more sense...

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[henabi]

Paiseh paiseh...

My misunderstanding as well... But really splendidly written.

I never thought it could be viewed this way

[Wizrd]

Originally Posted by henabi

Paiseh paiseh...

My misunderstanding as well... But really splendidly written.

I never thought it could be viewed this way

No worries bro...

Thanks for your faithful reading...I think most others can't even finish reading the whole write up......I think you will understand what I wrote better than most...thanks...

Cheers again bro...


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[Wizrd]

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Hi bros and sis...

Thanks for the pm but I'm not able to reply one at a time...my Internet here is not stable and it keeps refreshing the page and I'm tearing my hair out having to rewrite over and over...

So...instead, I shall reply here...hopefully you can spot your quesons here...if not, please pm me again and I'll answer them again...some answers cover a few questions...if you need clarification....I'm here to elaborate, ok?

Sorry and thanks for your patience...


1) No, it works for either gender. Maybe the main difference is the novelty factor wearing out slower for women...that is down to women being wired to nurture and build a nest...but nevertheless, I know many women who are tired and feel trapped in their relationship too...

Perhaps they do not seek alternative as quickly as men, but trust me, they are seeking...maybe they have higher standard and fewer men meet their requirement. But that does not change the fact...once the honeymoon period is over...both men and women will get restless and seek better option...the crux is, which one has the balls (hahaha, pun fully intended...) to carry the thought out...


2) if you feel like you are the iPad instead of the person, do not think like that. The example gives you an insight into how your partner may think...but in the example, you are still the person...perhaps you are one of those I spoke about...those who vow to love and be with their iPads forever...

But...thinks of it this way now...your iPad is no longer working properly...keeps dying on you, screen blanking out etc...you have to make a decision...to bring it in to get it fixed...or...time to buy a new tablet...

Not that which way is better or more right...it is merely your decision...and you must make it...non action won't help your case because that means your iPad will just die and you then have yourself a once very expensive door jam...


3) as stated above, both will seek other 'better' options. But do not take that as there is something wrong with you.
Yes, in the iPad example, IT is getting older, but a person (say from a less I.T. exposed background...please, this is for the iPad example...not for the real person...ie, you ) who never had a tablet as advanced will still be very happy to own one...added bonus is that this person will unlikely be swayed / tempted by newer models as quickly...


4) I'm not suggesting that we should all go for iPad3...look around...how many people you know are sticking with the original iPad? Most people have moved up to iPad 3 or 4 even right? So, as examples go...it is telling about human nature in general...
Yes, of course, I am not suggesting for a minute that we can compare a life partner with an electronic appliance...but, you have to admit that generally, this is how people think...maybe not everyone will 'throw' their spouse out...but almost everyone will be tempted by something new...be it an new person, or new sexual practice, or new sex toy...then...it is only a matter of a tug of war between temptation and repucussions / guilt...and we do not always end those battles on the morally correct side...


5) not true, exposure to new tablets are much much lower than exposure to possible new sexual partners actually. Go ahead and count tomorrow...from the moment you leave home till you arrive back home...pay a little attention to every person who is eligible to be your sexual partner...not that you will want that person, but that the person is eligible...count for yourself how many of those are acceptable (fuckable) to you...how many of those you might consider...you will be surprised at the number...

Normally, you block this thought out...but...when the opportunity arises, the number are the exposure you get when you decide that you are available...


6) ok, I accept that...but my premise is not about not compromising though...there are many things we can compromise but there are also some that we cannot...

For example, if your partner says he or she thinks kissing open mouth is disgusting...but you love the feeling of kissing and being kissed, with tongue...now there is a problem...

Perhaps you can suppress that feeling for a while out of love for your partner...but over time, it gets harder because you will miss it...you may fantasise about being kissed...but your partner won't ever do it...and this thought will reside in your mind, whether you like to or not...

Now, all it takes is a fight and you start thinking to yourself about how much you sacrificed for the other person...and resentment surfaces a bit...but hey, guess what...the same internal justification is happening to your partner too...could be something he or she likes that you refused to do...

Again...it is not about right or wrong...it is about how people are and we cannot run away from being human...


7) no, it is not true that all men will want to try kinky things like swinging (it was just an example)...some men can be very 'traditional' sexually...I have a friend who only does missionary...he cannot handle any other positions...but then, that's him...
Likewise...for most swingers I know, the power lies with the female partner...they decide if and when and who with they want to swing...so it's not a men thing there...

Having said that...as stated above, compatibility plays a very big part...and to my mind, it is sad that we seldom know that much about our partners...we like to think we do...but really, how many are truly honest to our partners with our fetishes and sexual fantasies?

Many women can't even tell their man that they do not have orgasms...they just fake it...and one day, if she has the opportunity, she will want to find out...and often...it will be with another man...



Ok...I think I have covered most of the questions...thanks again for engaging me in this discussion...I think it is fascinating and I'm glad some of you think so too...once again...I'm not suggesting what people should do nor am I recommending anything...I'm merely pointing out human nature as I know it...

Cheers...


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[henabi]

Wizrd dude... Recently just came back from Jakarta and hooked up a 25yo lady who was divorced a couple of months ago but faced a bit of issue here.

What happened so far:
Went to this skyy bar at Grand Indonesia, went for movie, did a bit of window shopping at Music stores, finished with dinner and banged her in my hotel room.

After I came back, we maintained contact throu Skype, whatsapp etc and just recently, she shared with me that she hope that I won't break her heart and ocassionally would compare me with her ex husband.
Tbh, I felt a bit weird but I still continue to play along...
Do you face this kinda issue often?

[Wizrd]

Originally Posted by henabi

Wizrd dude... Recently just came back from Jakarta and hooked up a 25yo lady who was divorced a couple of months ago but faced a bit of issue here.

What happened so far:
Went to this skyy bar at Grand Indonesia, went for movie, did a bit of window shopping at Music stores, finished with dinner and banged her in my hotel room.

After I came back, we maintained contact throu Skype, whatsapp etc and just recently, she shared with me that she hope that I won't break her heart and ocassionally would compare me with her ex husband.
Tbh, I felt a bit weird but I still continue to play along...
Do you face this kinda issue often?

Hi bro...

Hahaha...all divorcees will say that...especially if they have kids....they are trying their best to hook a man...

Fair is fair bro...we want their bodies and gentleness...they want our commitment and wallet...

However, since we know the basic operations and what they want, we just have to be careful with promising anything...

Sure, I know many people who will lie and promise the world to get what they want...but for our own piece of mind, I rather be as honest as I can be with her heart...it's her mind I'm trying to win over...not her heart...

It's a battle of the sexes bro...I'm rooting for neither team wins completely...each side wins a little bit...then...happy happy, it's a another day...

Cheers bro...

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[SEAJ]

Originally Posted by Wizrd

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Hi bros and sis...

Thanks for the pm but I'm not able to reply one at a time...my Internet here is not stable and it keeps refreshing the page and I'm tearing my hair out having to rewrite over and over...

So...instead, I shall reply here...hopefully you can spot your quesons here...if not, please pm me again and I'll answer them again...some answers cover a few questions...if you need clarification....I'm here to elaborate, ok?
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This is a GREAT way - the way you are replying on the board.

In fact, I many times wonder why guys would PM me instead of just asking their question on the board? I mean, its not as if I would know them from Adam...or that anybody else would...given we're all using handles!!

I can understand a PM if its from somebody I know or that its really a very personal question - but too many times I get asked questions about a place, a situation, a method etc. I'm pretty sure that others would benefit from the reply I give - and I really many times feel frustrated that I need to make such reply "private!"

Just my take/my druthers - but I really would like to see less PM's asking for questions and wish that guys would just go ahead and post such on the board. If we don't reply within a day or two, 0K fine, go ahead and PM asking the question, but.........!!

Apologize/sorry if I'd over-stepped my bounds......
SEAJ

[Wizrd]

Originally Posted by SEAJ

This is a GREAT way - the way you are replying on the board.

In fact, I many times wonder why guys would PM me instead of just asking their question on the board? I mean, its not as if I would know them from Adam...or that anybody else would...given we're all using handles!!

I can understand a PM if its from somebody I know or that its really a very personal question - but too many times I get asked questions about a place, a situation, a method etc. I'm pretty sure that others would benefit from the reply I give - and I really many times feel frustrated that I need to make such reply "private!"

Just my take/my druthers - but I really would like to see less PM's asking for questions and wish that guys would just go ahead and post such on the board. If we don't reply within a day or two, 0K fine, go ahead and PM asking the question, but.........!!

Apologize/sorry if I'd over-stepped my bounds......
SEAJ

Hi bro...welcome back to this thread...

Yes, I do agree bro...

But some of us like to chak people when they post questions and as much as we do it for fun...many people take offence at those comments...they do not seem to grasp the nature of a forum...plus some people has thin face skin...asking sensitive question may alter other samsters' perception of them...

Yes, while you or I do not know who a poster may be...someone else may know the person using that handle...

Generic posts are fine...but in threads like this one...especially in topics like this one discussed above...asking a question may give away an unhappiness in a relationship...the poster may not want others to know that...especially for those gf / bf, husband / wife groups who are both in SBF type...

So for this bro...I can understand why they rather pm me...

It's no big deal bro...they pm me their questions...I answer them in public...each of them are spared being identified and everyone can benefit from the answers...heh heh heh...

Cheers bro...great to hear from you, as always...

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[henabi]

thanks wiz. I understand. the girl doesnt have any kids and I,have met her mum (her dad ran off with another lady) and her adorably cute cousin.

I will be extremely careful and will just speak the truth to the next lady.