woes of a tirak

[magicafe]

Bro SC
totally agree with u. Have to befriended and being accepted b4 our tirak.
the ranking of their love:-
(1) parent and sibling.
(2) Good friend (phueng sanit)
(3) $$$
(4) Colleagues
(5) their pet (dog,cat and etc,if any)
(6) themselves
lastly, we .

the greatest factor of mistrust or actions of WL is peers pressure. their single word is more effective than a dictionary. though not all, but, majority .

[free]

Originally Posted by +++++++for

Hello, i did not presume or assume, i m merely speculating.
Anyways, I m not the only one "presuming" you are suteerak1099. There are many inconsistencies in your defence that you are not suteerak1099, as already pointed out by a few samsters here.

Have you met suteerak1099 lately? Maybe you should meet him and free .

KNN, I busy busy and no time to even log in, let alone read and post. WTF\, come in and first thing I see this. Must u drag me into your mud war? I have no time for your games, OK? I walk a different tirak relationship, and mine walk is not game. If u got a problem with that and must know better, there are better ways to do it. Like meet with me for example - maybe with Bro TV? Since I meet him often enough.

[free]

Originally Posted by rick924

I am not trying to build a path..it should be ..waiting for a path to be built instead...when there's no assurance or complete truth about something...no point play "LEGO" lah...

Refer to your reply in bold..exactly! ..so now i wana know if she wan to build the path together and sincerely or simply just hitch a ride to some where else.......

No that I am not convinced just that my last 3words are hoping for some good good news..althought I know chances are slim....now wait for durian to drop loh....if drop..then gamble whether it's rotten or sweet...but trust me ..once beaten twice shy ....one odreal is enough...no more 2nd time...

Come to think of it....We doutb them.....guess they doubt us as much also ...hai~ ....duno what lah

As long as you are able to enjoy your relationship with her, do your best and expect the same from her. You must determine iun yiour heart that you are prepared to drop the r/s like a hot potato if she proves to be not who u think she is. Don't be too concerned with what others tell you. That is not to say you should ignore well-meaning advises and and shut your eyes. But realised that this is YOUR walk and only you and you alone can decide if there is going to be another step forward or tbe journey stops right here. All advice must be seen in the light of 3rd party opinions.

I suggest you evalute your r/s with her based on her attitude/action to you as a woman first. And then a Thai. WL or not, she still belongs to the 1st 2 categories and there will be base commonalities she will have with women in those categories. I would suggest even ignore the KCs, so there are less traps to worry about. Remember not all r/s with WLs end in failure (even if low chances) and not all r/s with normal ladies end in success - be they thai or from any other nationality. Just as importantly, are u also the right person for her, or at least working hard at it? It takes a lot of effort to make a r/s work, definitely hard work is needed for 2 to become 1, in mind, spirit and body.

Again, I would like to quote a dear Bro here again for his words have proven to be so true for me over time, even more so now than ever....

Originally Posted by Hitman, 13-06-2003

Bro Free, although I do not know you, but I want you to know that you have my blessings and best wishes..... here's a quote I'd like to share with you and brothers here...

The future is not a result of choices among alternative paths offered by the present, but a place that is created--created first in the mind and will, created next in activity. The future is not some place we are going to, but one we are creating. The paths are not to be found, but made, and the activity of making them, changes both the maker and the destination. - - John Schaar

Persevere when you've found true love, and there will be light at the end of the tunnel...

[free]

Originally Posted by magicafe

Bro SC
totally agree with u. Have to befriended and being accepted b4 our tirak.
the ranking of their love:-
(1) parent and sibling.
(2) Good friend (phueng sanit)
(3) $$$
(4) Colleagues
(5) their pet (dog,cat and etc,if any)
(6) themselves
lastly, we .

the greatest factor of mistrust or actions of WL is peers pressure. their single word is more effective than a dictionary. though not all, but, majority .

IMHO, if one ranks as bad as the above, then there is still a long long way to go in his tirakship, if one can even call it a tirakship at all. Obviously the guy in question above has not reach that point in her heart where she wants to spend the rest of her life with him, even as he wants to to the same with her.

[ahpek]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

A lot of tiraks talk on internet "talk too much", "do too little" in real life.

How I wish I never cheong before. If can turn back time, I wished I never cheong

SC

Let's fast forward 30 years and imagine you are an Ah Kong ....
When you look back at your life, which you would rather remember?

a) A boring life with one wife, 2 kids and hardly any sex.
b) An interesting life full of memories of passion and sex with many many wonderful girls

Sure some of it will be painful.

But the choice is really up to you whether you remember the good times you had when you were having sex with each girl or whether you remember only the bad times when she lied to you.

On lying and the truth, I think you should you ease up a little.

Wouldn't you lie to your tirak also if you happen to meet another girl that you like?

[ABCinSG]

I would be quite surprised if a man who goes to Geylang, get a girl for a session or two, had a good fuck and leave would say that he has totally no feelings for her.

I believe everyday, men leave the place feeling contented, but mainly, if they are with their friends, they talk about the girl they had, what was good, what wasn't, if they are going to RTF and so on.

What's my point? Sex was intended for one purpose, reproduction and to consumate a relationship, which in theory, should have gone for a few years or when the couple is deeply in love.

Sex is like one of the last things in marriage! Times have changed, but you can't deny the reason it came to be in the first place!

I am no psychitrist or anything (if I was, I would open a branch at GL to council guys with broken hearts and girls with broken purses, I do believe I would be rich!), but I do believe that after having sex, and assuming the average joe enjoys it, and with just a little thing, say, for example, the girl gives a massage for the remainder of the time, or something slightly intimate, purposely or just out of nature, that guy would find himself liking the girl. And I have to say, people get mixed up between like and love, two different things, yet, usually measured by how far one is willing to go for that thing or person.

Which brings me to the next point. Them girls working there, they are humans too. Human nature affacts them as well. Maybe those signs of affection you think they are faking are real, because it is second nature for them. Just like the feeling you probably felt after sex, she might have felt it too, even if it wasn't particularly desired by her. She has a goal in life, which is to earn enough money in Singapore, get the hell out of this hell hole and get back home and hopefully, with the money, she can open a shop or something. We all know the chances of that, but I will not go into it.

As we all know, rarely do we set a goal, and get there without sidetracking or getting distracted, or even disregarding the goal for a better one. In this case, maybe they have taught of that. Maybe they thought "Hey, whats the point of getting my privates rubbed raw for only a 100 or 2 when I can get some guy to just pay for my ever need, and I don't even suffer from the pain!"

Again, human nature. Let's put ourselves in the girl's position for a moment. Imagine someone rubbing your dick (with generous amounts of lubricant of course) for say 30 minutes 15 times a day, 7 days a week, and 25 days a month. I believe you would get orgasms, but your dick would probably hurt like hell too. And when you are in such a situation, you try to find a way to get out of it.

Also, remember NS? They have it much worse. Imagine leaving your bunk only say, for 2 days a month. And for example, my favorite girl, she only goes to Golden Mile and Parkway Parade for basic neccesities and maybe new clothes. That's it. That an extremely boring life, even with the few friends you would have made in the same house, and if a guy is friendly and decent looking, hell, if I was in that situation, I would gladly accept any friendship he would offer!

I believe every man has his right to choose if he should try to have a tirak or not. But for the younger ones (hell, I am only 22), please, do not lose sight of their ultimate goal, and always be weary if they seem to let go of a goal they have slowly and painfully worked their way to get for you.

Ask yourself this. "Would I do that if I was her? If so, why, and for what reason?" And please do not kid yourself on the answer. It could mean a broken heart, and that my brothers, is something that I have felt before, because of a girlfriend, and it is something no one likes.

[kangkang_tw]

风 尘 女 子 .... 玩 了, 就 忘 了 算 了.
还 要 谈 论 婚 嫁 娶 进 门, 在 台 湾 是 很 tiew 脸 的

[red-perrier]

Originally Posted by ahpek

.....which you would rather remember?

a) A boring life with one wife, 2 kids and hardly any sex.
b) An interesting life full of memories of passion and sex with many many wonderful girls

Sure some of it will be painful.

But the choice is really up to you whether you remember the good times you had when you were having sex with each girl or whether you remember only the bad times when she lied to you.

On lying and the truth, I think you should you ease up a little.

Wouldn't you lie to your tirak also if you happen to meet another girl that you like?

just to add a bit here - and i mean no offence.

actually, from what i noticed....... many here choose to be in both a) and b) scenario. be married to a wife and 2 kids w/o any or good sex, while having a few spare tyres on the side, having excellent ECA during free time, weekends and sometimes even during lunch or dinner slot.

no need to be pondering so much on the part of being lied to and all, because u're also the 1 doing some lying too. (on this point, i think i make myself quite clear that i'm not the same person as who some speculate to be). life is too short to be worrying here there everywhere, if have preference then so be it, let there be preferences to rank your tiraks/sayangs/小龙女s. if die die only choose to have 1 even if it fails, then lppl. nobody can help also lor. 自讨苦吃，自作自受

live your life as you will, the rest of the issues not within your means of control, want to ponder more and sprout a glorifying crown of silver/white hair is unnecessary, to drop hair and become accelerated 地中海 is definately overdone lor. 欢喜就好

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by ahpek

Let's fast forward 30 years and imagine you are an Ah Kong ....
When you look back at your life, which you would rather remember?

a) A boring life with one wife, 2 kids and hardly any sex.
b) An interesting life full of memories of passion and sex with many many wonderful girls

On lying and the truth, I think you should you ease up a little.

Wouldn't you lie to your tirak also if you happen to meet another girl that you like?

Life isn't just about the above 2 scenarios that u painted. Gotta paint more than these 2. Life isn't also just about memories of passion and sex with many many wonderful girls. There is more to life than just these good memories.

This answer I answer for myself only. Others I don't know. For lying to tirak, until now I haven't met another girl that I like while with the one that I really love. Out of so many tiraks that I had in the past, only 2 I really loved, and I never steal eat. Those that I am with, while I steal eat outside, means that I don't love them with all my heart.

SC

[ahpek]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

This answer I answer for myself only. Others I don't know. For lying to tirak, until now I haven't met another girl that I like while with the one that I really love. Out of so many tiraks that I had in the past, only 2 I really loved, and I never steal eat. Those that I am with, while I steal eat outside, means that I don't love them with all my heart.

SC

You sound so hardened yet I think you are still quite idealistic inside.

Sooner or later, you will find out how it is perfectly possible to love more than 1 person with all your heart.

When that happens, you will find yourself lying like the way your tirak lies to protect you ....

This idea that there can only be ONE is something imposed by society.

If you can break free of that mindset, then I think you will no longer be so mentally tortured.

Instead of ending 10 ex-tiraks, maybe you will end up with 10 good lovers/friends ...

[OceanEleven]

Originally Posted by ABCinSG

I would be quite surprised if a man who goes to Geylang, get a girl for a session or two, had a good fuck and leave would say that he has totally no feelings for her.

Pain and pleasure had written on the faces of the folks walking in and out of the houses. Be it the WLs or the men, it makes no difference. We deal with life day in day out, WLs deal thier own in their own ways, with unspoken rules and conditions and choices of either to follow, or to obey.

Men walk in there can pick and choose while they cant. We go back to the same gal time and again for the reason of what? Really great sex that they gave? I believe it is more than that, it is the little extra feelings of GF, the sweet and gentleness we get from them. Call us suckers if you deem fit, this is what we are. Though not all share the same thoughts while some wanted to maximise the $40 and some on the quest to laid every single WLs available but alas, some just simply enjoy the extra attention in the given miserable 20 mins. Whatever it may be, path is there and we had choosen.

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by ahpek

You sound so hardened yet I think you are still quite idealistic inside.

Sooner or later, you will find out how it is perfectly possible to love more than 1 person with all your heart.

When that happens, you will find yourself lying like the way your tirak lies to protect you ....

This idea that there can only be ONE is something imposed by society.

If you can break free of that mindset, then I think you will no longer be so mentally tortured.

Instead of ending 10 ex-tiraks, maybe you will end up with 10 good lovers/friends ...

Even I may be idealistic in my mind, I will never encourage others to walk the same way I did because I know the pain. Neither will I spread my idealism on the internet as talking about them on the net don't work things out. Making things happen is better than spending time talking about ideas, future, hope, fantasy or whatever people like to call it.

As for loving more than 1 person, hmmmm, this I ever gave it a lot of thought. And seeing the amount of hurt that my friends, relatives suffered from having a heart that loves too many, I will never ever do it. So far so good for me.

When you see me play around, means SC have no love for anyone.

hahaha
SC

[rick924]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

Waehn Gam (Thai Word) = Karma
One thing that I dare to say that is when I with this ex-tirak, I never visited other girls. Out of 7 tiraks I had, I only stay faithful with 2 tiraks by not going for other girls. Only 2 I really loved. Thus I felt helpless at times when such accusations come in. Gotta live with it. And I slowly get to realise that Thai WLs when you leave them in a group, they really have cb mouths.

Supposedly to say that she is going to get married end of this year. But guess what, her so-called Ultimate Tirak went back to her old house recently to book another girl.

Was she wrong to go back early from her 2 years and depend on her so-called Ultimate Tirak who promised her his love? It's her Karma.

Do more good deeds in life and less karma will befall.

SC

Bro SC

Guess you have really gone thru alot wor....hmmm I totally agree with the sentance in bold....Actually and infact even local people are like that...the only solution is to listen and judge yourself ....

Karma..? well sometimes when tirakship kinda stuffs happen could it be karma from the previous life too ? hmm.. I own her ? or she owns me ?

Some bros mentioned.."if she really like you ..what are u going to do? Marry her?"..well I did pronder over this....but there wouldnt be a solution if there are still doubt behind..

This few days, I have gone thru alot in my mind...slowly..i begaining to feel that maybe all this are just a way WL works or should I say operate..Now they say miss u love u ......hung up phone ..sms another guy the same thing...although no truth have been out as yet, at least by thinking that, I aint feeling terrible compare to the pass few months...all this might just be an illusion....Im now keeping an open mind over this ..

Bro SC, Free, RP, st1099 and all of you guys ..thanks alot for the insight of tirakship......the picture is getting clearer soon ..........

[rick924]

Originally Posted by OceanEleven

Men walk in there can pick and choose while they cant. We go back to the same gal time and again for the reason of what? Really great sex that they gave? I believe it is more than that, it is the little extra feelings of GF, the sweet and gentleness we get from them. Call us suckers if you deem fit, this is what we are. Though not all share the same thoughts while some wanted to maximise the $40 and some on the quest to laid every single WLs available but alas, some just simply enjoy the extra attention in the given miserable 20 mins. Whatever it may be, path is there and we had choosen.

True enough....sentance in bold is the root of all problem arising from tirakship..even for me....Found her sweet gentle and super GF feeling..which I dont find it from my previous relationship at all....

RTF 3rd time ..she asked for my numbers....and then all prb start......Guess it only happened to guys who are jai onn...we are weak at heart like what bro SC says...

[magicafe]

[QUOTE=rick924]True enough....sentance in bold is the root of all problem arising from tirakship..even for me....Found her sweet gentle and super GF feeling..which I dont find it from my previous relationship at all....

the most lethal Wl are those submissive type. while those aggressive type usually don't make us fall for them. watch out !! for the next visit. 555