woes of a tirak

[suteerak1099]

dunno for wat reason or rhyme y ppl starting to disclose identity, age etc. if thats really the case then might as well just put NRIC+name instead of the current nickname??

as for the counterfeits or the real mccoy, i think those who've been doing there research should be able to notice the difference in the writing styles. avg length, trademark/identified jargons etc. clones, frankly i'm not really interested la, those with post lame 1 liners in this thread also no big deal... its either to prove to the rest that he's incapable of anything with proper content, or the information's too profound for him to reflect upon & contribute more to the thread. afterall, it still helps to keep the thread alive.

there's been recent cases of gang zapping i've noticed, i'm also 1 of the victims of the terrorist act. certainly not appreciated, cos those zapping were demonstrations to justify the fella's shallow mind, childish mentality, testicles flushed down the toilet system syndrome. sure hope the administrator can do something about it.

nevertheless, pls keep the posts coming in.. positive or negative or neutral they may be, the info've been invaluable & insightful for the aspiring tiraks around here. take heart bros...keep up the gd work.

[thaivisitor]

I couldn't sleep well last night after my recent posts.

I did not bother to read the posts after my last post (if there was any reply). It doesn't really matter. It doesn't matter whether I was right or whether the posts by bro Free and his supporters were right.


The subject matter of my posts, and the posts by other bros here like Aymy, is not the point. The point is that my approach was definitely wrong.

If I have to bring down someone to wake him up, fine. But if I bring down someone and he still doesn't wake up, than it would be a lose-lose situation.

Originally Posted by free

u will make time for me, sit down with and go thru with me, explain to me and help see if I was blind.

Although I did hinted to bro Free, although I did sms and tried to call him, but in all reality, I did not put in my best to contact him. I could have put in more effort. As a friend, I should have done what bro Free said,... make time for him and help him see better.

But what I did, I have no excuse for it and I'm not about to try to make up excuses. I bear bro Free no personal grudges, I'm not on a personal vendetta against him. Bro Free has not done me any harm whatsoever. Nor has he smeared my reputation (although he did try a little which is understandable). My approach has cause him unnecessary inconveniences, frustrations, embarrassments, anger, sadness, etc, etc. All uncalled for.

As I have PM to bro Free my apologies, I also want to post it out here that I unreservedly apologize to bro Free for the embarassment, frustrations, anger, etc, etc that I have caused him thru my postings.

I'm not trying to "gain" back the respect or reputation lost. That's not important to me. Doesn't matter to me if everyone in the forum "lose" respect for me. Doesn't matter if samsters doen't want to meet me up again when I go to SG. Doesn't matter if samsters don't want to meet up with me if they come to Hatyai. More importantly, I apologize to bro Free for myself, so that I can live with myself and sleep well again.

I have analysed my approach.

That was not the thaivisitor that the forum knows. That was not the thaivisitor that the samsters know. That was not even the thaivistor that I know.

I have PM to bro Free my apologies and also my intention to meet up with him, and do what I should have done in the first place, "make time for him, sit down with and go thru with him, explain to him and help him to open up his eyes" so that he can walk confidently thru his journey towards a successful relationship. I should have done that as a friend.

Once again, from the bottom of my heart, my apologies to bro Free.

Your friend (probably ex-friend by now)
thaivisitor

Originally Posted by thaivisitor

..........
I have analysed my approach.

That was not the thaivisitor that the forum knows. That was not the thaivisitor that the samsters know. That was not even the thaivistor that I know............

thaivisitor

so who was that thaivisitor?

[thaivisitor]

Originally Posted by sex_maniac2

so who was that thaivisitor?

Came and gone. Let the past be buried and forgotten. Look forward to the future. No point crying over spilled milksmakes.

[Hasa Sas]

Originally Posted by thaivisitor

I couldn't sleep well last night after my recent posts.

More importantly, I apologize to bro Free for myself, so that I can live with myself and sleep well again.

Once again, from the bottom of my heart, my apologies to bro Free.

Your friend (probably ex-friend by now)
thaivisitor

Good approach

"A person with true compassion based on understanding ,confers a double
blessing; he helps others with a true, pure motive, and because of his own
calmness he feel happiness within himself as well as happiness in helping
others"

[Malaysian Datuk]

Originally Posted by poolhot

and also aymy you must be free's 'clone'. the one and only supporter. hahahaha.

I am bro free's supporter too....so I guess now he has TWO supporters here. Not my intention to offend any bros and I have no wish to take sides in any arguments but imho bro free has taken alot of unnecessary flak for the his airing of his views, its one thing to disagree with someone's point of view......you can always put forth your own perspective and like in a debate sometimes the exchanges get heated up but at the end of the day no love is lost, but it's most ungentlemanly when the postings start getting personal, attacking the person instead of his views.
My impression of bro free? He is a 'what-you-see-is-what-you-get' kind of person. No facade, no hidden agendas, no ulterior motives....just someone sharing his experiences and anecdotes here. Of all the bros I have met up with in this forum (numbering in the 100s), I can say he is one of the most sincere ones and contributions wise, his learning Thai threads I guess most will agree are very informative. And I know of him helping other bros with similiar LDTR problems, he might not be able to do much sometimes but at least he lends a listening ear and lighten the person's emotional burden with sharing his experiences. Sure, you might disagree with him and you might even call him a sad fuck after reading his stories...you might disbelieve him and call him a storyteller....it's your prerogative. Or maybe those attackers and their clones are just plain jealous of him and his courage, steadfastness and preserverance in his LDTR (qualities which obviously they lack). I liken bro free to an good opposition MP, his views are in the minority but his intentions are noble, he has to work tirelessly to get his views across, he has to contend with a large powerful ruling majority class. His job is thankless but he has got the guts to press on......powered by faith and beliefs (I am making him sound like a missionary now). For those who cannot agree with him, at least agree to disagree with civility. If you think his stories are unbelievable, treat it you are reading fiction or simply just stop reading.
For bro free, I can only offer you morale support and good luck in your relationship. And I leave you with some 'words of wisdoms'......

'Yesterday is already a dream and tomorrow is only a vision but today well-lived, makes yesterday a dream of happiness and tomorrow a vision of hope'

'Life is not a problem to be solved but a reality to be experience'

[DNAT]

Originally Posted by thaivisitor

Doesn't matter to me if everyone in the forum "lose" respect for me. Doesn't matter if samsters doen't want to meet me up again when I go to SG.

thaivisitor

mai KNN lah .. if you in Sg I still 1 2 meet you 1 lah.
But I cannot meet you its not because of the above issue, but merely because my time schedule doesnt match ..

[free]

Originally Posted by thaivisitor

I have PM to bro Free my apologies and also my intention to meet up with him, and do what I should have done in the first place, "make time for him, sit down with and go thru with him, explain to him and help him to open up his eyes" so that he can walk confidently thru his journey towards a successful relationship. I should have done that as a friend.

Once again, from the bottom of my heart, my apologies to bro Free.

Your friend (probably ex-friend by now)
thaivisitor

I got yr PM and I accept. Hope we can meet, one-to-one or at least not in a large grp setting like a TCSS, cos it is not the appropriate environment to discuss issues relating to the biggest decision I am making in my life for a long time since I gave up on my marriage. Perhaps after that, we may come to terms and see things as they really are. Just want to state that I would be a fool to try to cheat a lady whom I lvoe more than I even love myself. She is everything to me now (+ my 2 boys of course). If my boys ever quit on their mum cos of the relentless pressure she piles on the almost daily (as they still tell me), I am glad my tirak will accept them as her own, as she already wanted them with us.

Perhaps my postings may sound like boasting to some, Perhaps sincerity coupled with Enthuisiasm is too much for some. But my purpose has always been meant for those who are on the LDTR journey, not the experienced ones. And my postings on Thai language has always been to help anyone who is interested cos I have experienced the joy of knowing the language and I can;t help wanting to share it. That still stands.

I too should learn. But anyway, I dun have much exciting stories to post now. My roller coaster ride is over cos my search is over. Recent events have shown THE Tirak I have today is not a piggyback rider, but my co-traveller on this LDTR. We are now working hard to make it a SDTR (S for short) now. The long arduous journey in a new r/s of living together, we really look forward to. Hopefully sooner, rather than later.

I will close this chapter too. Real brotherhood/friendship can withstand far more than this storm. Let the friendship remain

[free]

Originally Posted by poolhot

frankly speaking your public expose of free is not right. it has become another 'Ultimate Bastard' expose. unless you wish to declare yourself as public enemy #1. but i lost my admiration for you because you switch your tone now. if want to whack. whack hard. don't do a half ass job.

as sammyboy once said. meeting up with samsters is 'unwise'. the choice is up to individuals.

Sad for you. It is hard to believe you are the original and fun Poolhot who excused himself to go to fish tank in the middle of a TCSS, Tot that was cool.

What TV has done takes a lot of real courage, and I admire him for that. I too want to apologised unreservedly & publicly for some of the unnecessary things I said, even though I had felt provoked, I lost my cool, and I too was wrong.

Bro TV, I am also sorry that hurt you and I was wrong to lose control of myself and fought back the way I did.

If you cannot appreciate what he has done and instead took it negatively.... sorry I am a loss for the words ... to say more.

Originally Posted by poolhot

frankly speaking your public expose of free is not right. it has become another 'Ultimate Bastard' expose. unless you wish to declare yourself as public enemy #1. but i lost my admiration for you because you switch your tone now. if want to whack. whack hard. don't do a half ass job.

Mr NEW poolhot,
Do you realise that in one sweeping paragraph, you had COMPLETELY Contradicted yourself? Amazing!

First you said "frankly speaking your public expose of free is not right", which means you actually had disagreed with what TV did, yet u had egged him on. Which was a VERY BAD thing to do -that makes you NOT his True friend, but rather someone who had used him for your own selfish pleasure.

Next, you said "i lost my admiration for you because you switch your tone now. if want to whack. whack hard. don't do a half ass job.", That makes you contradict your 1st statement. Either you are confused, or it makes you "a man without principles - a Complete HYPOCRITE".

I think the reasonble SB brothers (the huge majority) can see who you are. Adios.

It completely baffles me that you can still do this in your signature (as dated Fri, 1 July 2005, 4:50pm). Why would any smart thinking person do that?

Dear bros I lost all my rep points.
Help me to regain to max power. TQ.

[suteerak1099]

Originally Posted by Malaysian Datuk

I am bro free's supporter too....so I guess now he has TWO supporters here. Not my intention to offend any bros and I have no wish to take sides in any arguments but imho bro free has taken alot of unnecessary flak for the his airing of his views, its one thing to disagree with someone's point of view......you can always put forth your own perspective and like in a debate sometimes the exchanges get heated up but at the end of the day no love is lost, but it's most ungentlemanly when the postings start getting personal, attacking the person instead of his views.
My impression of bro free? He is a 'what-you-see-is-what-you-get' kind of person. No facade, no hidden agendas, no ulterior motives....just someone sharing his experiences and anecdotes here. Of all the bros I have met up with in this forum (numbering in the 100s), I can say he is one of the most sincere ones and contributions wise, his learning Thai threads I guess most will agree are very informative. And I know of him helping other bros with similiar LDTR problems, he might not be able to do much sometimes but at least he lends a listening ear and lighten the person's emotional burden with sharing his experiences. Sure, you might disagree with him and you might even call him a sad fuck after reading his stories...you might disbelieve him and call him a storyteller....it's your prerogative. Or maybe those attackers and their clones are just plain jealous of him and his courage, steadfastness and preserverance in his LDTR (qualities which obviously they lack). I liken bro free to an good opposition MP, his views are in the minority but his intentions are noble, he has to work tirelessly to get his views across, he has to contend with a large powerful ruling majority class. His job is thankless but he has got the guts to press on......powered by faith and beliefs (I am making him sound like a missionary now). For those who cannot agree with him, at least agree to disagree with civility. If you think his stories are unbelievable, treat it you are reading fiction or simply just stop reading.
For bro free, I can only offer you morale support and good luck in your relationship. And I leave you with some 'words of wisdoms'......

'Yesterday is already a dream and tomorrow is only a vision but today well-lived, makes yesterday a dream of happiness and tomorrow a vision of hope'

'Life is not a problem to be solved but a reality to be experience'

bro, im a supporter for bro free too, but í think u could help all of us by learning to use paragraphing. the cluster of text is just too distressing for the eyes la. no offence, i actually appreciate the stuff u posted...bt its making it diffcult to read & taking more time to go thru too.

[poolhot.]

Originally Posted by thaivisitor

I'm not trying to "gain" back the respect or reputation lost. That's not important to me. Doesn't matter to me if everyone in the forum "lose" respect for me. Doesn't matter if samsters doen't want to meet me up again when I go to SG. Doesn't matter if samsters don't want to meet up with me if they come to Hatyai

Reputation & respect in tis forum dun mean a thing... Basically tis a SEX forum & SEX is the key thing that bring all tis ppl together.

Therefore there nothing, nothing at all to worry wat respect or reputation to be given in here. Wat wiz the shit points thing.. It cant do anything for U...

The Current poolhot - heard u are keen in raintree points.. go talk to sam & ask him to transfer all to U.

I really dun mind.

TV - We never met but would love to meet U when U in Sg.

Will U?
RT

[suteerak1099]

well, come to think of it.. we've all our fair share of the tirakship woes.. gotta profess that i'm deeply encouraged by all the posts & correspondences ongoing. of cos, the spams inevitable, bt much less to say, we've also moved on to further spur/enlighten/help/tutor one another in the path of tirakship.

slowly bt surely, i'm confident that we all stand to gain & receive better returns when we eventually discover/find/meet that special someone regardless of her nationality. funny it seems, bt i think for some deserving ones... they could be better off with a ka-toey, cos most ka-toey's r capable of demonstraing better GF feeling, in fact, to some extent they're GF feelings can easily put a normal gal to shame.

ok, enough said about the nonsense, back to the main stuff.

am very glad that there's some reconciliation between bro free & TV, n i certainly hope the 2 of u can truly shake hands, rekindle the frenship n cont to be supportive of 1 another. keep up the gd work bros... chok dee na krap

[peterfish]

Originally Posted by free

What TV has done takes a lot of real courage, and I admire him for that. I too want to apologised unreservedly & publicly for some of the unnecessary things I said, even though I had felt provoked, I lost my cool, and I too was wrong.

Glad that both you and Bro TV have made up. I have reading all your exchanges for the last few days. Had wanted to comment. But both are my frens so I chose to take the easy way and watch from the sidelines rather than taking sides.

[peterfish]

Originally Posted by suteerak1099

slowly bt surely, i'm confident that we all stand to gain & receive better returns when we eventually discover/find/meet that special someone regardless of her nationality. funny it seems, bt i think for some deserving ones... they could be better off with a ka-toey, cos most ka-toey's r capable of demonstraing better GF feeling, in fact, to some extent they're GF feelings can easily put a normal gal to shame.

What is there to gain from a tirak relationship? Are you better off now in a Tirakship than when you weren't? If yes, in what ways? I just don't see why you are so happy abt it. Hope you don't mind my strong words.

Also why bring in Ah Gua? A bit off the topic, right.