woes of a tirak

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by suteerak1099

SC, u should know better. if 1 chooses a WL for a tirak, then he must come to terms that she's gotta do wat she gotta do to survive in this trade. call or dun call him is not much of an issue. she can be calling the ROBERT alot more often cos can get gd tips.

the ratio of men to her is so many to 1, n the tirak being only 1 of the many in the calling list. any idiot will know that she'd be calling other men more often than the tirak alone. for her to call the tirak less dun mean she love him any lesser, i'd say its her way of loving him in her own way. many long for the gal to refund or reimburse $ to him for his visits, whilst others work out consensus for 50-50 subsidy etc. its all in their own unique way, n subjected to the goals the gal wanna achieve to begin with.

if the tirak wanna prove his gal's infidelity, then its all wrong to begin with cos her jobscope already is the defination of infidelity. the only way i see the applicability of this test is unless she's in a free circumstance where she dun need to entertain men, n she make her tirak the priority over all the rest of peurn saneet/kig/piichai.

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Which Cat40 don't call customers? hahaha

Example when the girl call you, she tells you she just finish work and you are the 1st and only tirak you call. Then you check back and see whether she is lying or not when your bill comes.

Everyone knows that she will surely call customers. If there is trust like what you said in the relationship, then why a bother to lie, when both parties already know its part if the job scope. And then you start questioning her, she start to churn out more lies and you start to think whether such a person can be trusted after all.

Understand the motive behind every action and not try to find reasons to justify every single action.

SC

[free]

Originally Posted by Bangkok Master

In fact they SYTs in LOS love mature men becos why? Most mature men tends to take care of them better than the"Wai Roon"(younger generation) due to the fact that better financial status and understanding to the other part. But the bad thing is that most of the Thai mature men are either married or attached so they just out to have a "Kig"(mistress or affair) but for the modern thai SYT being the "Kig or Mia Noi"(2nd wife) is acceptable cos they will definately get more attention than the immediate family.

I know these women exists, and I do meet a few of them. Some did it willingly, others were tricked by the one they loved. By the time they know, they had fallen in love with their man and "accepted their fate" rather than to lose him. Pathetic but nevertheless true.

But I am referring to the group of women (and there are many aged 19-40) who rather remained single or single mums, cos being a Mia Noi is a No-No to them. And they know that there are not that many eligible thai men who meet their requirements, so they looked to foreigners. Here is where understanding/speak/read/write thai is a distinct advantage (as I found out by quite by accident).

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by free

questioning me if my tirak has a chance to test me even as I tested her. Did you pass your tirak's test yourself? Were you her Reason to change for the better?

Or did u set her up for failure, "by expecting them" instead of preventing them? You'd rather let her commit mistakes (cos she dun know better) than to help her prevent them in ways she never thought of on her own or did it out of habit? That is the Traffic police system here isn't it? Our taffiic cops like hide and catch offenders when they could have prevented the offence in the 1st place. Nowadays when I "catch" them doing that, I give the a piece of my mind.

I worked hard to help my tirak stay out of the pond she was in. But unlike most, I waited for her to struggle and crawl out 1st. Falling back in would have been easy w/o help from her "Reason to change for the better". Today she flies and soars in the sky, never to fall back into the pond again.

Her own tests only she knows the answer while for my tests only I know the answers.

If you have nothing to be afraid of, what's 1 test or numerous test? When warnings are set up, drivers slow down. But if there aren't any measures in place, you think they slow down? Why not see their real self or are we so afraid to know the truth?

SC

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by free

But I am referring to the group of women (and there are many aged 19-40) who rather remained single or single mums, cos being a Mia Noi is a No-No to them. And they know that there are not that many eligible thai men who meet their requirements, so they looked to foreigners. Here is where understanding/speak/read/write thai is a distinct advantage (as I found out by quite by accident).

Which girl want to really be mia noi? However in some situations come, when they know the truth, sometimes they bo bian also be mia noi or gig.

SC

[free]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

Which girl want to really be mia noi? However in some situations come, when they know the truth, sometimes they bo bian also be mia noi or gig.

SC

Unfortunately I know of a few who chose a comfortable life as a Mia Noi (so can yoo baan chueay chueay, go shopping, spas,.etc) than slog it out with the man who loves them. In the process, break the heart of the lovers they had been dating or even living with until their Ritchie Rich came along. Part of of the reasons were a better for their parents which they know their current bf cannot never provide. Sad, but true.

[OceanEleven]

What is the problem of a girl working as a FL/WL? Straightforward answer is money problem. Given the choice who wants to be bald when he can have hair? Whatever the case may be, if there are lives before they are in this line, there will life after it as well. They are here for work and in line of duty is the continuous capturing of helpless man, sucker for the GF feeling mentality of whomever who employ her service. If a man can visit her, then he should be holding a decent job and I guess no company would employ the service of an unsound man hence he should have the IQ to decipher the possibility and probability of he himself being just another carrot to the cake.

[suteerak1099]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

...she tells you she just finish work and you are the 1st and only tirak you call. Then you check back and see whether she is lying or not when your bill comes.

Everyone knows that she will surely call customers. If there is trust like what you said in the relationship, then why a bother to lie, when both parties already know its part if the job scope...

sorry to disappoint u SC.. she shows me her bills n all her accounts, bank statements etc. she's already becoming transparent about things, for that i truly appreciate n am more certain about her than ever.

Originally Posted by siamcutey

...And then you start questioning her, she start to churn out more lies and you start to think whether such a person can be trusted after all.

Understand the motive behind every action and not try to find reasons to justify every single action. ...SC

to this stage, questions r quite irrelevant liao. 1 should only be very concerned when she calls to say "i luv u" 5-6times a day, sms i miss u 4-5 times a day. to date... me n my gal need not declare all that anymore, its the actions that counts. conversations revolve around the future n no longer about wats present.. which to me is a positive light. if i'm just a customer.. she'd probably nt even mention the slightest thing about the future at all.

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by suteerak1099

sorry to disappoint u SC.. she shows me her bills n all her accounts, bank statements etc. she's already becoming transparent about things, for that i truly appreciate n am more certain about her than ever.

to this stage, questions r quite irrelevant liao. 1 should only be very concerned when she calls to say "i luv u" 5-6times a day, sms i miss u 4-5 times a day. to date... me n my gal need not declare all that anymore, its the actions that counts. conversations revolve around the future n no longer about wats present.. which to me is a positive light. if i'm just a customer.. she'd probably nt even mention the slightest thing about the future at all.

You really make me laugh when you said "sorry to disappoint me". There is no need to apologize cos you will be the one who will be at the receiving end of the result irregardless of whether its a good ending or a bad ending.

You may see me as a cynic, one who can't wait to see others fall. Success or Failure, I don't care cos its not going to be me who's at the receiving end of it..

Your response to me already shows you are ready to prove me wrong at any point of time. In this forum, I have already seen a couple of samsters who were ever-ready to go all the way not because they really want to be with the girl. But they want to prove to the rest of the world and probably in this forum that they have succeeded to prove the cynics wrong. And let me tell you, this people I feel for them. From day 1 you started this thread, and 2 months from now (subconsciously) you have already decided to cut away the emergency rope which can save your life one day if you are in danger.

"questions are quite irrelevant liao". What kind of an answer is this? By saying this kind of answer, you have already closed your mind. You no longer want to hear things which do not sound soothing to your ears. If you are so sure in the 1st place, why start this thread? And in a space of 2 months, she has became the angel in your heart. Anyway, I have always been the devil.

The girls always say I Phak Wan Wan, and I always reserve my sweet nothings to the girls only. However, I will make an exception just for you from today onwards.

SC

[zunbo]

Originally Posted by free

Zunbo, maybe I get u wrong here. I tend to see a different picture. After the final whistle, the game has not come to and end. Rather it just got started. After that, one better see it as a normal BGR with any TG, or any ger for that matter, If one can even do that, don;t get started, cos it is already doomed for failure.

It is amazing many SG guys consider other things so thoroughly and weigh the odds before starting a venture, a job, an investment. But when it comes to matters of the heart, they wear lampshades over their heads! (I mean the one on the shoulders). One may argue that one is already in love so its too late. But I say one had better consider these before allowing oneself to fall in love. Begin with the end in mind, even for BGRs. Selection (or rather pre-selection) should be done at the beginning, not after.

For me... Mine story is not as Clear cut or shd i say with Full confidence like how bro Suteerak1099 is convicted of his r/s with his gal. Mine is still on the testing water stage. Cos i strongly believe till now i have yet succeed in gaining her full trust or shd i say commitment from her. This is something that i have to work harder.

Giving my gal a future is something every guy will want to do for his gal Just that when the situation can be rather Grey.... Then i think it is better for me to commit yet not fully given my heart. Cos i scare i be too emtional to handle another breakup.

[siamcutey]

I remembered a recent story.

On 1 overnight months back, I was "invited" to a birthday party.
The birthday happened to be one of the girl's tirak. The girl was celebrating for him. And 1 month later I saw another guy during one of the overnights with this girl and happened to be another tirak of this girl.

Just 1 month before the girl ORD, I saw her taking intimate pictures with another tirak and she even said this is the boyfriend. What happened to the last few when she said those are her boyfriends too? And the shocking thing is she told me she is going back to thailand to get married to her boyfriend of singapore. Makes me wonder which one she is talking about. And the best part is the 3 of them don't know the existence of each other.

SC

[chanthira]

Originally Posted by free

I know these women exists, and I do meet a few of them. Some did it willingly, others were tricked by the one they loved. By the time they know, they had fallen in love with their man and "accepted their fate" rather than to lose him. Pathetic but nevertheless true.

But I am referring to the group of women (and there are many aged 19-40) who rather remained single or single mums, cos being a Mia Noi is a No-No to them. And they know that there are not that many eligible thai men who meet their requirements, so they looked to foreigners. Here is where understanding/speak/read/write thai is a distinct advantage (as I found out by quite by accident).

Originally Posted by siamcutey

Which girl want to really be mia noi? However in some situations come, when they know the truth, sometimes they bo bian also be mia noi or gig.

SC

Originally Posted by free

Unfortunately I know of a few who chose a comfortable life as a Mia Noi (so can yoo baan chueay chueay, go shopping, spas,.etc) than slog it out with the man who loves them. In the process, break the heart of the lovers they had been dating or even living with until their Ritchie Rich came along. Part of of the reasons were a better for their parents which they know their current bf cannot never provide. Sad, but true.

Originally Posted by siamcutey

Which girl want to really be mia noi? However in some situations come, when they know the truth, sometimes they bo bian also be mia noi or gig.

SC

Originally Posted by free

Unfortunately I know of a few who chose a comfortable life as a Mia Noi (so can yoo baan chueay chueay, go shopping, spas,.etc) than slog it out with the man who loves them. In the process, break the heart of the lovers they had been dating or even living with until their Ritchie Rich came along. Part of of the reasons were a better for their parents which they know their current bf cannot never provide. Sad, but true.

It look like both of you know very well
Do you have any mai noi ?
Simply put it they can't survive if they find a decent job
Either become WL or Mai noi
reasons
1 They need for themself to enjoy
2 parent or sibling need the money
3 The kid need the money
4 Their boyfriend or husband need the money

How much money do they need ?

Cost:
1 Basic need
2 a bit comfortable
3 luxury
4 squander


If the reason due to 2 and 3
and the Cost are 1 and 2
Your success rate are higher
But some girl dont want to become WL and if they can find a man give the no 2 standard of living they no mind become mai noi

But if they become WL ,they tend to shift their cost to 3 and 4

Then good luck to you
Of course if they just started and havn't get used yet(no girl will like become WL but after a certain period they will enjoy the $$$ and very difficult to come back)
There are not that many eligible thai men who meet their requirements, so they looked to foreigners.
Those cheated by thai man and with a child ,it always like
to find a foreigners
They are plenty

Experiend Man

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by chanthira

It look like both of you know very well
Do you have any mai noi ?
Simply put it they can't survive if they find a decent job
Either become WL or Mai noi

I don't have mia how to have mia noi? But a couple of my friends have mia noi. kekeke
Anyway, its simple, no girl in the right frame of mind ever want to be mia noi.

I have gig, there waa mai mii faan.

SC

[suteerak1099]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

...You may see me as a cynic, one who can't wait to see others fall. Success or Failure, I don't care cos its not going to be me who's at the receiving end of it..

Your response to me already shows you are ready to prove me wrong at any point of time. In this forum, I have already seen a couple of samsters who were ever-ready to go all the way not because they really want to be with the girl. But they want to prove to the rest of the world and probably in this forum that they have succeeded to prove the cynics wrong. And let me tell you, this people I feel for them. From day 1 you started this thread, and 2 months from now (subconsciously) you have already decided to cut away the emergency rope which can save your life one day if you are in danger.

"questions are quite irrelevant liao". What kind of an answer is this? By saying this kind of answer, you have already closed your mind. You no longer want to hear things which do not sound soothing to your ears. If you are so sure in the 1st place, why start this thread? And in a space of 2 months, she has became the angel in your heart....SC

SC, u missed the whole pt again. i'm nt trying to boast, bt i was using my own experience to substantiate my pt. there's nothing for me to gain even if i prove u right or wrong... the purpose for this thread is spelt clearly from start.

its quite obvous that alota ppl here claim they tirak here n there bt theire nt serious about it etc. then i think in the 1st place they got the wong idea.... those r just"kig" n not tirak. so when the rship is kig only.. then i can safely say no KC involved hence no reason to turn round n flme the WL when things dont work out.

on the contrary... those that r genuine about the TRCR, should by watever stage in maturity of the rship know, n decide for themselves that the WL is different n is giving him the confidence that things will work out too. cut the safety rope u mentioned. in retro spect, i did it commando style.. no ropes no chute. i see through the issues liao.

bottomline, its not so much about proving u right or wrong, cos to each his own opinon n all, n to each his own progress in his own TRCR.

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by suteerak1099

SC, u missed the whole pt again. i'm nt trying to boast, bt i was using my own experience to substantiate my pt. there's nothing for me to gain even if i prove u right or wrong... the purpose for this thread is spelt clearly from start.

its quite obvous that alota ppl here claim they tirak here n there bt theire nt serious about it etc. then i think in the 1st place they got the wong idea.... those r just"kig" n not tirak. so when the rship is kig only.. then i can safely say no KC involved hence no reason to turn round n flme the WL when things dont work out.

So how you retired entirely from commercial sex?

SC

[free]

Originally Posted by zunbo

Then i think it is better for me to commit yet not fully given my heart. Cos i scare i be too emtional to handle another breakup.

Personally I don't think it is possible to fully love a person until one is prepared to be vulnerable to that person. Else there will be too many suspicions and fears and holding backs that will come in the way. I tell myself that if the r/s I am in were to fail, I will learnt from it. And I encourage myself that the next shall be better, cos I will make a better choice, and be able to give as well and receive more. So far I have not been wrong. Things have gotten better, and I hope this one will be it. So far its' looking better by the week.