Ouya (and maybe even CP) in general has become a Malaysian and Singaporean KTV. it's flooded with ppl with ppl from these 2 countries. why is this a bad thing??? it's because of the money that they throw around. my story below.
The last time I organised a party for my Bros was 2 years ago. Because it was so successful and everyone had so much fun, I was asked to do it again. So I obliged. BIG MISTAKE!!! the last decade in SG has brought much wealth to her citizens, my Bros and me included. While I think I am still the humble guy that I was 10 years ago (with maybe a few subtle changes), the changes I observed in my fellow Bros were quite drastic. they were not as eager to participate in the drinking games, they tended to put on an "air" in the room, and expected a little more "respect" from the gals and service staff. It wasn't fun at all.
I also joined a mix k with Malaysians in the group. While I didn't join in their activities, their behaviour was for all to see. The gentle and kind Malaysians that I am used to seeing wasn't in this bunch of ppl at all. they were every bit as obnoxious and disgusting as the wealthy, money throwing, ugly Singaporean. they were forcing drinks down the gals' throats and when the gals didn't comply, they boasted abt being able to double and triple their tips. and when that didn't work, they complained. it was an ugly sight.
Why am I bringing this up? it is because many ppl fail to realise that just as SG and MY have gotten richer, so has the PRCs. these gals are making decent money now. DJs make RMB 7-9k a month. quite a princely sum in CP and they don't have to take shit from customers anymore. So if the DJs are making 7k a month, I am sure the KTV gals make way more. they now see lesser of the need to "respect" you if you know what I mean.
Some of these cash kings or cash kings wannabe for some reasons of their own, want to play HERO - The Knight in shining armour. I want to say that this is really really silly and it is also really really stupid. Why? Cos while the cash king may feel superior in the short run, in the long run it kills the game for everyone - including the cash king. Excess generosity and kindness translate to disobedience, pride and laziness. KTV gals service standards have fallen over the years. This is something I think all can agree. I have also never seen so many FAT sauna gals in my life before (on this trip). And I saved the best example for last.
A few years ago, I met one of the most beautiful KTV gal I have ever seen. She had a pretty face, slim but a big solid pair of B-Cup boobs. She was one of my best fucks. She never said no. was consistently wet and ready. and she would French and she would blow. so over the next 2 years, I RTF her a few times and we maintain a relationship that was somewhere between a client and a friend because she would let me ride her even if I don't pay her. she would tell me abt the guys who did her favours. Before long, some SG guy decided to sponsor her visa to SG. being a natural businesswoman, this gal was able to meet her quota on the first month and consistently brought home a few thousand SGD in tips on a single night. she worked in a HFJ and fucked him on her off days.
she told me stories of how guys would bring her to casinos and tell her "if I lose, its on me. if I win, we share the winnings." guys would also bring her on fuck trips to KL and Bintan and gave her tips and shopping money.
Sure, it's none of my business how a rich man wants to spend his money. but I want to let forummers know how our monies transformed her. After going back to PRC, she led the high life and haven't worked at all since. eating and sleeping everyday. needless to say, she put on weight of 5-10 kgs. when I asked to meet her, she was very happy to meet me. she hadn't had sex for 8 months. and I had to oblige. trust me when I say it wasn't enjoyable cos I don't do fat women.
I am sure that my posting will most likely fall on deaf ears. Cash kings don't come online to read this stuff. but for those of you who happen to read this, trust me when I tell you that the gals aren't grateful when you pay them extra. trust me when I say that you are ruining your own playground in the long run. and when I say playground, I don't just mean the playground in CP. It also means the playground in SG. we are global these days, remember?
Thumbs up for the heart felt FR!! Sometimes I wonder is there genuine GF in CP, recently met a pretty gal in Ouya and she actually opens a facial spa (went to her shop twice). She wants a relationship with me but I have mixed feeling though she quit her job in KTV.
Going back many moons ago, I had tried to relay here precisely what 1nottiboi now relates - and got roundly condemned and even subject to a mass zapping campaign.
"....chanting abt how we shld do this and shouldn't do that...."" Really?? As I recall it you were the one most vocal in your rabid and totally unequal response.
What? Wanting to suck up - again and as usual - to your "daikors?"
SEAJ
The way I see it you were roundly condemned and mass zapped not because of your clarion call for concerted action for the common good, but for your refusal to play the game in this particular thread.
So what is the game?
Firstly, put on some false modesty, so use words like lehs and lahs, write in singlish even though you are quite capable of proper 'england' Doesn't matter if you are actually an egomaniac and actually go trading for reputation points. Hypocrisy is the new self deprecation. So long as you play the pretend humble game. Its basically a race to the bottom to see who can use the worst england and most atrocious spelling, lidat you suan me goot meh, (Yes that s the s.o.p. rejoiner when buttered up, however insincere), then you are deem humble. Never mind how contrived. The object is to out-mediocre each other. Mendacious conduct is best.
Secondly, discard your individual thinking and povs, however well argued and cogent. This is groupspeak, no wait, groupthink land. We don't like individuals here especially those who are capable of independent thought and a bit of guts to speak out. Toe the company line, mate. Thought crime is punished with mass zapping. The theme of this thread is be dumb. But if you are not, well pretend to be. "Chim analysis" is shunned. Intelligent discourse is held in disdain. You just need to dumb down. Got it?
Thirdly, genuinely suck up a bit lah, go taikor here, taikor there lo, or ck here, ck there. It's a mutual admiration club here, you ampu me, I ampu you. That way both parties syok sendiri hahaha. So fawning and forelock-tugging is the order of the day. Never mind if this is all faked. To be hailed Taikor is one prolonged orgasm.
Fourthly, participate in mob lynching. Pick on the newbies, pass sarcastic remarks on their innocuous queries, poke fun at their expense. Gang up on those who seldom post. So you can get your rocks off. And show others how brave you are. By attacking newbies. Make this a taikor (self sacclaimed) club. Feel your own importance by running down on the less experienced. Hunt in a pack. And of course send PMs to mass zap recalcitrants. And that's you, matey haha
So do all this Taikor SEAJ , and you will be very popular.
1. Is the DJ too arrogrant or what to get this sort of treatment from the client ?
2. Is the client too rich to wanna dump $5k just like dat ? Use it to treat his buddies to some footies or sauna is better than using it to humilate another human being.
if drink real liquor with mixer, it damages organs and leads to slow death
if drink real liquor from bottle, it burns the stomach wall and leads to quicker death
so got to be something of a real killer punch... like fake liquor
if drink real liquor with mixer, it damages organs and leads to slow death
if drink real liquor from bottle, it burns the stomach wall and leads to quicker death
so got to be something of a real killer punch... like fake liquor
Thumbs up for the heart felt FR!! Sometimes I wonder is there genuine GF in CP, recently met a pretty gal in Ouya and she actually opens a facial spa (went to her shop twice). She wants a relationship with me but I have mixed feeling though she quit her job in KTV.
Ok, opening a can of worms here, I can see the nukes being deployed.
Genuine gf? Depends on how you define genuine? If you define that as she will remain gf even when you stop the income stream, well then the best way to know is to stop that income stream and see what happens. My take is 99% of gfs will sooner or later, mostly sooner, demur of your attention.
If you define genuine as even though you maintain a stipend, you know she truly likes you with or without, well you will never know, will you? Unless you put her to the sword as in above. So even though you sincerely feel her feelings are genuine, its only conjecture on your part. And no point asking too, she will of course protest in feigned indignation its your person she wants, not your money. And in case you do ask, you are a bigger fool than I thought.
And if you are a well-resourced older guy, and she a bright syt with nary an asset, save those curves and pair of racks,you will never have the heart to test her true feelings by not recompensing her for her time and attention and company. Unless you are a mean old bastard. To do that would make an unequal relationship unfair as well.
My take is that even if there is 'genuine' feelings, it would have initiated in the first place by her assessment of your provide-potential, and once affirmed, engendered it. If you doubt that, as one lao jiao taught me, look in the mirror (for older guys)
Anyway all said, one can drive oneself bonkers conjuring up all the endless combinations and permutations. So best, for me anyway, is to go for the ride and enjoy the journey while it last.
Besides, I harbour not, nor covet, permanence. For permanance leads to self deprivation of the talents galore that abounds out there. But that's only me.
Ok, now waiting for the sarcastic remarks about chim analysis, deep england, etc wakaka
The way I see it you were roundly condemned and mass zapped not because of your clarion call for concerted action for the common good, but for your refusal to play the game in this particular thread.
So what is the game?
Firstly, put on ...........
LMFAO!!!
So true what you say, so very true!! A bit tight on time so will not join the merriment just yet, exceptin' I do remember a wise old man who would just look at a person and his/her antics and whisper to me "OKB."
Yup, only Orang Kaya Baru needs to always flash his supposed wealth.
How Gauche!
Greatly appreciate all the Bros who responded to my posts and gave me points. This breakup of brotherhood has affected me so much that I dreamt of the Bros last nite. As we get older, we get more discerning with our selection of frens and those who stay by us get fewer and fewer. It is such a pity when Bros quarrel over such trivial things such as drinks or whores. these are things that can be bought by money. But brotherhood, which takes time to build, once gone is almost always forever lost, never to be found. These are Bros who partied with me before any of us had a HDB flat to our names or any success to our careers. But now that we own so much more (financially), some of us forget the things that truly matters in life. Will the whore in CP drink and console you when you lose a deal? will the whore in CP buy you drinks when your cash flow is tight? will the whore in CP give your child an internship when he is in university? etc etc. Unlike me, my Bros don't have children. I am the only one with kids. Maybe that's why they don't see things from my angle. it is weird that CP brings out the strange characters in us. the normal humble Singaporean sometimes turns into the boorish, arrogant monster that most of us despise once he steps into the KTV room. Little things that we would have dismissed in SG, suddenly turned into an unforgiveable act of disrespect that must be protected with honour. this totally baffles me. I know gals are hard to come by for a fuck in SG and guys protect their whores in CP as if its their personally property. some guys forget that the gals in CP are simply whores - servants to anyone with money. guys who think they "own" any CP gal are just being fools. Anyway, I am just bitching. Moving on to another topic. Bringing CP gals to SG or MY. I don't blame guys for having done this. I, too, have brought my SH gf (student) to SG before. She stayed for a month in my condo and we fucked our brains out. BUT, there are some who own businesses/SMEs who have foreign worker quotas and bring these gals in on WP for 6 months!!! I mean, come on, letting your small brain rule over your big brain???!!! I have heard stories of guys who bring in these gals as their "employee/s". These gals work in HFJs or KTVs while registered to the guy's company. This is dam silly. the gal gets all the money. shes not grateful to you. And you put your company at risk. and you skew the whole incentive structure for yourself and for everyone else. For guys who really like to play the role of hero, may I humbly suggest you volunteer your time at the local SPCA. its way cheaper and the victims there will forever be grateful.
Most of them are plain CHEE HONG. Look at cheeby even dirty ones they want to show off. Married to a changping pros still feel so proud. They dont know that when they are not around they are fuck by their ex changping customer, my friend married PZL girl and that girl always wechat with me hinting for a fuck
People who organise mass zap in this forum are trying to bring others to agree with their disagreement in some other people ideas and comment. Its just a public posting forum for individual to express their findings and thnking, why take it so serious?
People who conduct mass zap maybe over ego or want to forcefully impose their thinking on others. Childish Act.
And last thing does the point matters?
[QUOTE=SEAJ;10039809]Reap what you sow.
Going back many moons ago, I had tried to relay here precisely what 1nottiboi now relates - and got roundly condemned and even subject to a mass zapping campaign.
HJ pricing is not cheaper than CP that's for sure. And DL is even more ex...
ZMT ktv gals very little, max 200... And have to fight with hkie as well... And if u think its chela, think again.
CA pricing is more or less about same as CP also. And all know that quality is no where near cp... If u can't pick in cp, forget about ca. Unless it's service u after.. But over the years, service level have also drop... Haiz....
As for HM, no go before... No comment...
Then other places like tangxia, pricing is more ex or same as cp. And quality have also drop hugely the last few years and gals also getting less even when pricing gone up.
I have even went to QingXi, another town of DG. Ghost town I would say. 50 gals in one of the biggest ktv.. Omg.. Price, same as cp.
Even out of DG like ZH, GZ SZ... Most are past their prime and hugely over price... Will u pay 5k for ON haha... That's the pricing now.. Crazy u may say. But that's china..
Not to mention BJ SH, places where all the top gals are... 800 1000 1500 for sitting only... Wtf.. But still got ppl pay.
Then other province like Xiamen, wuhan, ningbo, hangzhou, congqing etc.. Most of them pricing is already higher then CP now.. 400-500 just for sitting. Going out is at least 1500-2000... That is also why cp is getting less and less quality gals... If near home got higher pay, why go so far...
Most laojiao who like CQ and SC gals will know that many have gone back and no longer comes out haha
Sad to say, actually cp still offer the best in term of quality and quantity. But attitude wise, cp is also one of the worst. Pattern also the most. Haha.
Well, just can't get the best of both world.
Just my humble 2 cents
Hope no one is offended.
Thanks for update...Generally I think every where in China is Expensive. CP I think only because of convenience (got Rail way station) & many Htl. There is no way to find cheap KTVs with reasonable prices & MM tips..
Wat I would suggest is for those who want cheong, can arrange outside gals to go together to KTV, this way all tips go to the MMs & can have better negotiation. The problems with these is Most Gals outside expect U pay "Tips" for whole nite, U don't get a choice, whether wan the gal to sit only or bring back. Also Tis gals usually ar not well dress
How early does the girls in CP usually go back early for CNY, am planning a trip in Jan 2014.
CNY is end of Jan, does most girls go back hometown one mth early? One week early? Normally how many months before and after CNY is a good time?
Wat I would suggest is for those who want cheong, can arrange outside gals to go together to KTV, this way all tips go to the MMs & can have better negotiation. The problems with these is Most Gals outside expect U pay "Tips" for whole nite, U don't get a choice, whether wan the gal to sit only or bring back. Also Tis gals usually ar not well dress
Disadvantage of this method is who are you going to complain or look for help if the deal turns ugly?
A good majority of these so called BBS or WeChat "Freelancers" will play gangster with you if needed to.
Unless you say you're a bigger gangster than them then no worries lah.
But what's the point right as you come to Changping to have fun and not look for trouble.
13-11-2013, 05:11 PM
, and you will be very popular.
