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no...they are closed down according to my sources...cong an still raiding daily many places...not sure how many can survive...

not really raiding daily...some just ownself shut down after smelling the "wind"...

i never go body massage and go for foot massage instead...but my hands still end up in the blouse instead...
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(H88, really keen on meet u in person! PM me on your schedule if available in HCM)
haha...thank you for your post...pls enjoy yourself...not in hcm during this date...
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Wow, post so early TS ...... your body not but your soul is in HCM
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Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)

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Myself and another 2 buddies will be heading to HCM from 6th to 9th August ann will be stayig at one of the girl friendly hotel rec by H88, Hoang Hai Long Hotel (btw, its available for booking in Agoda, can earn points for free hotel redemption)... This will be our maiden trip to vietnam.. Well, we were chionging thailand and DG, they taste good but just wanted to explore viet as well... you know.. their smooth white skins,never ending legs, slim bodes... look damn tasty... and they are pretty wild for most i've met which i kinda like

Anyway, being a noob to a new territory, information is important... H88, volcano, altasshrugg and many other seniors here has done a good job in advising the area of interest raise by newbies! Your efforts are appreciated and many thanks to that!

Ok, main topic... anyway, just finished 40+ threads and got pretty disappointed on the last few concerning the raid... Due to the raids, i'm not sure if whatever i've read is still relevant...
Basically, the trip was to indulge in the sins of HCM... like what we did in other countries. As for the cost, we are willing to pay but we do not want to spoil market or become a cai tao... totally understand what it mean for idiots that pay excessively and spoil market to up their ego or pay off their guilt/sympathy...

The information i've gather from the threads seems to me that in order to have a good time in HCM, we really need the guidance from a senior who knows the place well. Hence, if there's any senior who is available and willing, we can meet up at HCM to have some fun together. We will definitely help out with the payments for your goodwill
(H88, really keen on meet u in person! PM me on your schedule if available in HCM)

But if we ended up on our own, the advices from the seniors for my top area of interest will help to make our trip worth:
KTV - the wilder the better.... bbbj, fj in the room...
Cafe/Saloon/Massage - Preferably bbbj, fj, if not minimal hj (dunno if you guys know any shops still in business after the raid?)

Thanks in advance!
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If you are interested, Please PM me. I would recommend you to district 10 Massage Palor. Dont blame me if the service is not good but from past experience which my friend had tried say average and above average service.
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Wow, post so early TS ...... your body not but your soul is in HCM
haha...you knew me well...

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Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)

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Hi

If you are interested, Please PM me. I would recommend you to district 10 Massage Palor. Dont blame me if the service is not good but from past experience which my friend had tried say average and above average service.
Cool to have seniors to assist newbies here - have PM you too for info

After satisfying one appetite, time for the other appetite:
http://www.eatingsaigon.com/2012/02/13/hais-place/

Looks like a good place to find some saigon food - any seniors tried this before?
Heard that pho is the more common viet food, but like to try something else, including "oysters"
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Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)

Haha guess its time for FR.

Day 1

Was supposed to meet MutantChicken in a cafe with eye candies in q5. But i arrived first and walked right in like a boss and with the only viet i know at that moment, i ordered a coffee and surely, no gals come and sit beside me haha. Not too long later, MC arrived and i dont know if the locals were trying to drive me out of their shop, because where i sat was beside a speaker which i didn't notice because there was soft music. Just about before MC arrived, they turned it MAX LOUD volume with electric trance. Had to change place so we could talk. After some discussion, he went to the gym and i walked about in a market nearby to pass time. After that, we went for our 1st stop and he DROVE me in a MOTORBIKE (wanted to try riding in Viet). It was a hotel (name is not mentioned to safeguard the playground especially in this hot times). He explained to me of the modus so i would not screw up and i listened word to word. Went upstairs for steam bath and sauna, then bath and then up the room for massage with HJ. The girl was quite pretty and young looking, maybe somewhere 23-26, i would give her about 7. Fair skin is my cup, cute face and fairly large cup, prolly a big B with push up that looked like a big C. The only downside is she's got noticeable mole near her mouth. Massage isn't exactly great but at first it was better then i expected, only later on, i felt like she was pinching my fats all over which kinda hurt but i just let her do her things because i was so nervous. After massage she wanna massage baby and not long after i was gone, and its definitely not good for my repo, but because i did not know when to start touching the girl, i basically only fondle her for a while, and did not even get the chance to finger her yet and its already over. However after that, she came in the room and looked at my face for quite sometime, and then she just kissed me briefly, i was wide eyed....then she giggle and smile and touched my face for quite some time. Then she push me to the side wanting to sit beside me, so i moved, and she just sleep on my chest until the time is up. Damage for myself was 400k including tips. The facility was quite well maintained so i suppose thats why the facility cost abit more then the places i went later on.

After that, we met other 2 SBF member (name not disclosed unless they agree to it) for dinner. MC took us to a really nice place. All the waitress was quite pretty, or at least sexily dressed. Makes the food taste much better then it should be hahahaha. Ate quite alot and damage was very decent, about 600k for 4 MAN portion of food.

After dinner, went to Gossip to pick up some FL. not something MC would recommend though but we just wanted to go and have a look. I will leave the story of the 2 SBF member if they are writing, as for me, I did not want any FL and just want to go back to sleep because i did not sleep for the past 2 days.

Overall really enjoyed the motorbike ride so i tend to ride along with MC whenever i get the chance. Felt that if i had not been so shy, i would have enjoyed it more during the HJ session.

Day 2

Met MC again for lunch with the 2 member. We had banh canh, 2 crabs etc and the food was really good for my liking. Total damage 500k for 4 MAN. Then we head to our 1st chiong, a BBBJ nearby the restaurant. It was also a hotel, and as we arrive, we went for steam bath, then clean up for a massage. My girl was abit tanned this time, but i thought wth, gotta try everything. Anyway she was quite good looking and her mouth was a little pucky. Since its a bbbj place so i thought i could just give it a try. MC told us that he never had to change girl at this place anyway so i thought i shouldn't. My girl could speak very very little english but she tried to converse with me anyway. Massage was so so. face about 7, age 21. breast smaller compare to the day before, maybe a smaller B, pushed to a small C. but because of yesterday's experience, this time i started touching her earlier. at least i got to feel her kitty but because she wasn't wet (guess i'll have to work her longer) i didn't really get to finger her but it was an improvement for me already. After the deed, she asked me if i wanted a drink, and i said ok so she got it for me, and when she's back she got me to lie down and for some reason, she did almost exactly the same as the girl yesterday, but she kissed me with no tongue (maybe she just gave me a bj) and later also lie on my chest, But she was more cheeky as from time to time she keep pinching my nipple =.=". and the most funny thing is when we heard some noise outside, we went out to see what happened, and so did some other girls standing outside, but 2 other girls saw me and came over to me to also pinch my nipple =.=" i dont understand why but when they try to do it again, i was not hesitant to repay them the deeds haha. i wonder if i gives them a good bfe LOL. when its over, the damage was 300k i suppose. 200k for tips, 100k for facility (cheaper facility but more run down compared to yesterday)

After that we went back to hotel to do our own things. I met up with another girl whom i've known from another website. But i already knew she wanted long term BF as oppose to 1 night stand, but i met her anyway to make new friend and to spend some time. And for dinner, we went quite far away for bbq goat and hot pot. damage was about 500k i think for 4 man and 2 girl, but not everyone ate their portion so it would have cost a little more if everyone is into goat.

After that, the 2 guy and their ladies went back to hotel, while i asked MC to show me around. He told me its something I've never experienced before and so i went to see and try. I must say this is something I would never be able to try no matter how hard i try alone. Its so remote and scary place that you wouldn't dare to go in even if you found the place. At first he took me to a place to drink where the SYT would sit on your lap and you can basically do anything with her except FJ. I did not expect the place to be such, like an almost run down wooden house with those old man's chair. But the girls we got are good. MC chose a girl for me, but i think the girl wasn't whom he thought she is. But anyway the girl was prolly only a 19 or 20 perhaps? very young look, not very big breast, prolly a B, and her look i would give her a 7 or maybe 7.5 (after she show me her photo collection... ahem ahem... hahahaha) as usual im quite a shy boy so it took me sometime to start touching her everywhere and she actually had to guide me a little. She was laughing at me most of the times because i seem quite fresh to her. The whole experience was exactly what i was looking for, something that only local will do and can do, i didn't care if the place is not a high class place with aircond or what, i just wanted to feel the culture and the people (and the breast and kitty as well hahaha). The only downside was the girl is wearing super tight shorts as opposed to MC girl who was wearing a super short dress, so he worked her like mad and i think she loves is so much because so much noise coming from her, and she had to lean on my shoulder so she could enjoy him more HAHAHAHA (sorry bro i gotta say it out because she kinda hurt my shoulder quite alot sometimes and makes it even harder for me to do my thing) so it was very hard for me to finger her, but she was very accomodating, shifting her position so i could get a better movement, but its very limited due to the pants anyway. And after she notice i was all sweaty and tired, she fan me with her hand and blow me (no, not bj) just blowing wind to my neck to cool me down, and wipe my finger clean with a wet tissue. After that, same thing, she came back after some time, and sat on me again, looked at me for sometime, and then kisses me and cuddle... I think this could be their modus operandi, or i think i should start charging them already for the BFE service haha. Anyway damage for that was only.. 100k !!!!!

After the warm up session, went to another place nearby. This is another wooden house, ordered a drink and i suppose the girl MC wanted to ask for me isn't around, so another lady took me to a room, lie down and she just unclasp her bra and undo her panties and pants. I undo mine and she starts her work. This girl a bit old for me, but definitely not ugly. Small breast, shud be A. worked her for quite sometime, but i think she's either a pro or im just too noob, couldn't really finger her because she is so dry. MC told me this is a CIM place but maybe not all girls do it, and mine didn't do it.

After finish, the girl came to me sat beside me.. and starting conversing with me.. in fluent MANDARIN... i was shocked but just chatted with her while waiting for MC. apparently she's worked many years in taiwan before and i dont think she's a waitress haha. After MC is out, we paid and left. Damage 100k.

200k for 2 different girl with different services. I would definitely do this again! its just a different experience.

End of day 2.
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Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)

Day 3

Was a rather slow day, rainy the whole day and no actual plans from everyone, some miscommunication and all, so most of us just move with our own plans. For myself, my initial plan to come was to meet the Duyen Dang girl again and to finish off what i didn't manage to finish last time. So since i had the time, i went again got the vip room and rebuilt some relationship asap. once i've felt the chemistry, (anyway she's the one hinting me after sometime) by touching me at where she should not be touching at all. i started working her everywhere i could get my hand on. the rest im just gonna keep it to myself. and because i paid her quite alot of tips the last time, this time i only give her as per the shop's requirement, and told her if she wants more, she'll have to come to my hotel tonight. She say she'll try but she can only come if her colleague changes shift with her tomorrow, otherwise she'll be too tired for work tomorrow. Anyway was disappointed she didn't come that night even with the offer of more money. (proves that girls from there are just much harder to get, she was all horny and im sure she needed more money, but maybe if they dont do it, they just wont do it)

Dinner with a new friend in d1, and MC was nice enough to come and take me for a last stroll as i told him its my last night here. He asked me what i would wanna do, and we ended up at a cafe with eye candies nearby. It was a good time talking with him about many things, and i certainly learn alot from his humble yet experienced adventure. And with him, a pretty cute cafe girl came and sit opposite of us, and he just flirts with her. She was laughing and giggling all the time, i notice she was talking about me but i understand nothing (its at times like this that you will really wished you can understand viet). after the coffee session, MC showed me the street girls, he said if u know where to find, its not so bad. So we strolled around in his bike, my last ride in HCM in the middle of the night, wandering around to a few streets where we saw some pretty good looking girls here and there, some new experience because some girls ride right beside us while negotiating price and etc, was so funny actually. At one of the street where he told me it would cost more because the girl are generally younger and more attractive, i saw 2 of them whom i would prolly give nothing less then 7.5 for appearance. and during the negotiation, i would have really felt intimidated and scared if MC wasn't the one taking charge of the whole situation. we were basically surrounded by motorbikes, and girls, and OKTs. He said if im interested he could wait for me. I was really quite keen to try because its a new experience for me, but i didn't want him waiting for me, plus i was actually on the urge of nature's call already. so he drove me back to my hotel and we bid our farewell.

In short, i would say this trip has given me a very very localised experienced which is exactly what im looking for, and im sure that even with money, perhaps you couldn't get the same experience i had. and i actually spent much lesser then i expected to.

Its regrettable though that i didn't stay for another day or 2 to finish of the rest of the things that i didn't get to try. but well, perhaps it means that i just need to go there again for the finale hahaha.

Anyway thanks to the 2 SBF forummer for meeting up and making it a much less lonely trip then it would be, it had been very enjoyable with both of them around.

We also met another senior here for a short coffee session which is good as well as he passes on some tips and secret,

and last but not least, MC for making this trip much better then i expected. i really appreciate and liked what he did for me, many things are just well planned enough, and with all the raids going on, he told me its not worth taking the risk to go certain places. But with his knowledge, im still able to enjoy myself throughout. I hope the next time i go will not have raids going on, then i'll be able to enjoy the rest of the things i've not done...

time to plan again ^_^

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Re: Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)

Hi all,
Even though i had mentioned i will infuture remain a lurker as opposed to being a active contributor, this week i made some observations and heard some conversations, that made it impossible not to post.
Firstly this week I toured Jerface, Maddog and wolalaeh, they all aware of my conditions whilst showing them around so everything was transparent. I will leave any FR for them and i hope they post good and bad things they encounter, but i hate self promotion, however it is suffice for me to say they are not clones.

the second point i would like to make, and it revolves a slight historical story, in thats back in 2008 when i first arrived teh bbbj hot tocs in dbl was 150k, the cafe like mifa was 18k for a cafe sua, the d7 bbbj hotoc were 200k, but there the girls get completely naked rather than the usual unclasp bra and pull down panties. Shortly after the d7 shops were posted on a ang mo sex forum, they naturally experienced a huge influx of ang mo and then teh price automaticallu became 300k non negotiable take it or leave it even for people like me who had been going tehre for 1 yr+, and this was because my vietnamese had a accent, though based on local viet sites the price was still 200k. As such i posted a request for a boycott of those places. Dont know how much influence i had, probably shit all, but the shops were no longer prooted on teh ang mo sites and in time the price went back to 200k.

But now 2013, dbl and most otehr bbbj shops the standard price is 200-250k, d7 before it was raided and closed was 200k, and the cafe like mifa is now 40k. In the past cafe had only locals now i can see ang mo, see malaysinas see singaporeans and naturally see VKs. Some smart guys would say how could i see a malaysian etc, well the girls tell me, not be seeing with my own eyes.

What im trying to illustrate is that with increased exposure to foreigners, there is be a naturally increase in pricing higher and above the natural inflation.
How do i prove this, well today due to teh crackdowns and due to teh fact taht these well known places have been spoilt i decided to explore and what i found was cafes with equally attractive gals as mifa but the cafe was 20-25k.

I went to a hot toc where i saw a slim 20yr old with eraser like nipples and a b cup. She gave me a bbbj and a cat bath, i was getting quite excited watching her 8/10 face licking my penis, so i asked her if i can kiss her, meaning her nipples, instead she said u can kiss this pointing at her pussy with a tiny amount of fine hair. After sile time of me licking away and i looked at her face, there she was eyes closed, licking her lips and stroking my dick. The moment was priceless, soon i asked her to go back to sucking me, and momentgs later i released into a wet towel and then she wiped me dry then rested her head on my chest. Later at the end of the alotted time, i saked her how much expecting 200k, NO she said 150K.

So it seems that when you go away from tourist places ie where no foriegner have ever been u are paying priced below the market rate, which i thought was 200k, given that is the price quoted in 4-5 different districts.

Thus my conclusion is that i will NEVER ever be revealing anymore lobangs to any foreigners in the future, and secondly those who have the ability should go and find their own, as im sure plenty of supposed seniors will be thinking themselves i can find it myself i dont need his stinky information.

For those who will say, why not share, where is the spirit of shareing, i will recount a little of my own experiences with the sammyboy spirit of sharings, when i first came i also pm'ed the supposed senior, not actually with any "can you give me the address" can u tell me where i can get the cheapest the best type requests. I merely asked that if they were free i would like to meet them for coffee, and talk to make new friends as i was new. The only guys who actually agreed to meet up was Deptrai, who isnt even based or a frequent visitor to HCMC, the rest either ignored me or said try xyz as im busy. And through deptrai, i was able to get sufficient reputaion for Repear, who initially ignored me, to pass me a adress. To both these guys, i say again thank you, though given our future interactions im sure i have repayed any debt. So when someone talks to me abt the spirit of share..u know what i will say to you.
Next would be teh fact that since i recieved help from the two, i naturally passed on to them any intell i had myself, Deptrai is naturally too helpful and ofcourse would disseminate my intel. He would then disseminate it to newbies who would some become the present days Seniors, tehse guys some of which using other peoples discovered knowledge would then promote that they are the top dogs of saigon base don having this knowledge, which would naturally irk me leading to keyboard wars.
Thus ultimately in my eyes tehre is NOT positive reason for me to share but plenty of negative outcomes, what is equally more annoying is that the original guys who ignored me, after findout through the grapefine that i have intell, they would then contact me and act all buddy, nothing worse than hypocrites.

Those who have been following all three vietnam thread may be able to deduce who im talking about, these are the same guys who have claimed to; be so connected that he has a bridge named after him; be so handome sophisticated that models and unattainble girls beg to accompany him; has such good kc skills that girls are kc deep deep never to arise; has such good love making skills thats girls never want to leave even though he doenst give them any money; has 3-4 lovers which accept that he has these extra lovers whilst never requiriong any monetary upkeep.

My comment to all those who plan to come here is check ur ego at the door, and get a backbone to explore outside d1, because its unlikely you gonan get any real help here from the seniors, esp from this chicken.

one last comment, and it concerns the oft repeated comments tats viet girls go crazy for singapreans, well im not sure if others read into this as i do, what that basically refers to is that in a viet girls eyes, you only redeeming quality is that you have a singaprean passport and that u offer a opportunity to escape her current situation. And naturally once she has got singy Residency she will no longer need you, secondly i have seen it numerously the fact that singy generally over tip, and are easily manipulated by women based on ego, so if you feel those things are a positive reason that a girl should wnat you, then i applaud you, becuase personally i would prefer a girl who wanted me even tho i dont have a foreign passport, even tho i have no money and am tight fisted with my money, even though i am impossible to manipulate, maybe the good looks and big penis can be excused (hahah after all men are qualty appearance conscious {joke}) and want me for things that wont dissapear in the short term

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haha...just go hcmc for myself and meet ppl I wanted to meet...not really top secret...

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In short, i would say this trip has given me a very very localised experienced which is exactly what im looking for, and im sure that even with money, perhaps you couldn't get the same experience i had. and i actually spent much lesser then i expected to.

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one last comment, and it concerns the oft repeated comments tats viet girls go crazy for singapreans, well im not sure if others read into this as i do, what that basically refers to is that in a viet girls eyes, you only redeeming quality is that you have a singaprean passport and thsi u offer a opportunity to escape her current situaltion. And naturally once she has got singy Residency she will no longer need you, secondly i ahve seen it numerously the fact that singy generally over tip, and are easily manipulted by women based on ego, so if you feel those things are a positive reason that a girl should wnat you, then i applaud you, becuase personally i would prefer a girl who wnated me even tho i dont have a foreign passport, even tho i have no money and am tight fisted with my money, even though i am impossible to manipulate, maybe the good looks and big penis can be excused (hahah after all men are qualty appearance conscious {joke}) and want me for thing that wont dissapear in the short term
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thanks senior MC for sharing, and not trying to deviate from intention of this forum, but it is almost exactly like what is happening in sillypore at the moment, with price inflation etc. - and that smells exactly like what's happening in viet.
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My comment to all those who plan to come here is check ur ego at the door, and get a backbone to explore outside d1, because its unlikely you gonan get any real help here from the seniors, esp from this chicken.

one last comment, and it concerns the oft repeated comments tats viet girls go crazy for singapreans, well im not sure if others read into this as i do, what that basically refers to is that in a viet girls eyes, you only redeeming quality is that you have a singaprean passport and that u offer a opportunity to escape her current situation. And naturally once she has got singy Residency she will no longer need you, secondly i have seen it numerously the fact that singy generally over tip, and are easily manipulated by women based on ego, so if you feel those things are a positive reason that a girl should wnat you, then i applaud you, becuase personally i would prefer a girl who wanted me even tho i dont have a foreign passport, even tho i have no money and am tight fisted with my money, even though i am impossible to manipulate, maybe the good looks and big penis can be excused (hahah after all men are qualty appearance conscious {joke}) and want me for things that wont dissapear in the short term
Thnks for the sharing , I do believe in all fairness , certain seniors here are indeed behaving like what you have mentioned but it is probably because of the way some of the newbies behave , I believe you have encountered a fair number of them yourself .

Whether if you should share or not , I don't think anyone here has the right to comment , as long as you state your conditions and people are willing for go for it , I don't think anything is wrong. To me I am pretty fine even if you brought me there and me paying for your portion while I don't play.

While you claim that the reason why vbs are interested in singky is due to their passports but i can say many are myopic in nature , reason being some sinky are living less than comfortable life even in Singapore yet choose to live an alternate life as king in Vietnam . Of course there are many that can make it but how many ?

You cannot blame some for trying to live a dream with their limited budgets , probably why the lousy behaviors as they aren't willing to show that they have ran out of money from their sprees of being a king. That said though you mention most of the things can be found cheap but many bring lesser than 1.5k or maybe even lesser than 1k to foot for their hotel , food and stuff for a 3-5 day trip. Some times it is simply not enough .

Yes most of the place you have brought are value for money and the amount stated might be enough , thats provided if you meet up with the correct people. I just don't like those which make use of those info to make abnormal amounts of money. This I don't think is right.
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Thnks for the sharing , I do believe in all fairness , certain seniors here are indeed behaving like what you have mentioned but it is probably because of the way some of the newbies behave , I believe you have encountered a fair number of them yourself .

Whether if you should share or not , I don't think anyone here has the right to comment , as long as you state your conditions and people are willing for go for it , I don't think anything is wrong. To me I am pretty fine even if you brought me there and me paying for your portion while I don't play.

While you claim that the reason why vbs are interested in singky is due to their passports but i can say many are myopic in nature , reason being some sinky are living less than comfortable life even in Singapore yet choose to live an alternate life as king in Vietnam . Of course there are many that can make it but how many ?

You cannot blame some for trying to live a dream with their limited budgets , probably why the lousy behaviors as they aren't willing to show that they have ran out of money from their sprees of being a king. That said though you mention most of the things can be found cheap but many bring lesser than 1.5k or maybe even lesser than 1k to foot for their hotel , food and stuff for a 3-5 day trip. Some times it is simply not enough .

Yes most of the place you have brought are value for money and the amount stated might be enough , thats provided if you meet up with the correct people. I just don't like those which make use of those info to make abnormal amounts of money. This I don't think is right.
your last comment is what i was referring to, i share my info and then have some clones use it try to make abnormal amounts, one even copy one my FR word for word, but change prices then pretend that teh fr is a anotehr guys writings to promote the clones OKT services. The other thing is im not saying vn girls ONLY interested in singy passport, what im referrring to is when some big fat singy on his last legs, is going on line making a carte blanche statment, that ALL vn girls will love ALL singgys regardless of other elements...that in my mind if it were to happen then it would be due to the passport, sure if you are the type to get singapore girls easily or any girl easliy anywhere then def they not interested in your passport.

What i was commenting about is teh often claims sammyboy spirit of sharings when a newbie wants info, and the experiences i have when i did share and ultimately the end result was it came back to haunt me.
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