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Originally Posted by KohOnly21
Is it possible to start a list with different joint names, and whichever bro encounter bad/attitude/princess/runner girl just update the list with the girl name/working number, the name of the farm she's from and how much is the booking..
I believe this can at least serve as a guideline for bros chionging farms to had a lower chance of picking the wrong girl..
It's true that 1 man meat can be another poison but it just serve as an reference..
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I did that and still doing it but in a different format w/o pinning the target to a single girl. I have the same thoughts like you about a year ago where i kept a private listing on each girl but turn out the girls turn over rate is really very high in these joints and not counting there are girls with same names (counting in those names that sounds similar too).Most of the girls were on contract between 3 to 6 months,some even up to a year (but rare). Almost every month will have new girls coming into each joint and the list i made eventually becomes redundant after 2 to 3 months later. Lets not forget girls from joints in Wechat also uses a different name too.
For me,i now target the source instead. Thats the joint's characteristic (how they are run) and its OKTs characteristic who manage their girls.
I begin my journey to collect FRs,from here,from other forums,those who joined me in my Batam trips,those who were independent enough to “ditch me” (lol) after joining my learning trips and from another important source,taxi driver's customers in Batam.
As you have mentioned,one man's meat can be another man's poison.A girl can be really bad to a kind/type of customers and good to another ; as much as a customer can also be more picky of a particular girl than other guys over the same girl. I have seen A friend who has a runaway girl booked by another B friend who not only didnt runaway,but glued to B like long lost lover. When i gather all the information,during the procession i gauge base on the characteristic and the experience of the cheongster versus the girls they picked.
My results to get good girls? There are several and most of them were psychological factors,eg Lowering expectation,picking name cards in the girl's presence,understanding the scene,the indo culture,types of OKT etc etc. Each of this factors has a reason or 2 which i do not know how to spell out as each of it gonna be super long story so they are all spread out in my postings and summaries in this thread. And i also need to count in some factors of an individual,if "he" is a newbie and/or one who has the character who likes to use money to "crush others" type or one who would use money to "buy" their way in.There are also some who has unrealistic high standard too (notice i dont use the word expectation now?). You can notice this tiny little things in each posting by an individual in this thread everyday.
My one size fits all solution FOR MYSELF which may not really fit everyone were stated below :
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Originally Posted by nono1973
That is also the reason i am continuing my personal task in experimenting "how to tame" these girls,hehehe...how to increase my chance of "getting good girls" in Batam and how to prevent or minimise those "unforeseen circumstances" from happening (eg.runaway girls/attitude problems/sick girls/chu pattern girls etc) etc etc...Honestly,as this is an ongoing experiment,i have no conclusion as yet...but if i ever book an overnight booking girl (hehehe...which i always did in every trip),i took all possible cautious to try to make sure :
1. The girl i pick shows interest.
2. The attitude of the OKT when i want him to promise no runaway girl.
3. Getting the joint's name card at the presence of the girl i book directly from OKT.(mind game)
4. Lowering my expectation as if i am a 1st time cheongster in Batam
5. Try to pick girls in between the SYT and MILF range.
6. Tell OKT my requirement (or fetish...lol) if any.
7. Be humble (i think this is MOST important,but i just couldnt describe it in details as it goes with experience)
Honestly,i am not a believer of the 3 bonk rule,i stick to my own protocol above when picking my girls,i am a known stingy man who dont look like Auntie Lau (or Andy Lau),my average tipping is between 100k to 150k at most time for booking girls. I dont bring girl go shopping or buy them gifts like HP,clothings etc and very often keep them in-room or just within hotel premises. I bargained all the time in Batam for the slightest things including the need to pay 2k to use the public toilet at Barelang Bridge.
But there is one thing i NEVER stinge on,tipping those i think is the right people...eg.Bellboys,hotel receptionists,security guards,room service staffs,IT personnel,plumber,technicians etc but not supir/papi/mami.
My results? They are all in my past 16 trip summaries on my signature link (there are actually only 14 written ones).And I report both hits and misses when it come to booking overnight girls,hehehe...notably,i dont speak Malay or Bahasa Indo language.
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Note : Lowering of expectation do not equates to lowering of standard
I cant guarantee a 100% good time (i believe no one ever can when it comes to cheonging) to anyone but i can almost guarantee that the above will minimise one from having a bad time. The last 5 NEWBIE group trips has proven it for me. Remember? I am experimenting many things and this is one of my smaller scale experiment. May be i am too proud to share my own fails in Batam,maybe i may even faked my summaries since 2014,maybe the boys in the newbie group trips are too shy to share they have a bad time and didnt have the courage to share their true feelings on their girls with me,maybe i am simply lying? But then i tested in more than 5 Newbie group trips and the summaries written over the one year were my results meant for my reviews.
In my perspective,I only have one dick (like i always say),i cannot bonk all (or most) of the girls in ALL the joints if i need to understand how each joint,each OKT,each girl works in their respective establishment. In order for me to bonk most of the girls,understand how respective OKT in each joint function,i dwelled with them in the beginning,i gather people and collect information one baby step a time. And over a period of time,i have lots and lots of information whereby i can see with my own eyes to use it to gauge a situation so as to provide a solution mainly for myself and hopefully for each individual's encounter. I do not forget everyone is different.
The basic is still on my QUOTE above (or below link) :
https://sammyboy.today/showth...7#post13096597
...which will at least minimise the chances of fail/s.
I still prefer to help others to learn the rope.