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Re: Batam Info Thread

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Originally Posted by nescafeGold View Post
the reason mcd is not so popular among the local probably because of the burger. burger and french fries is not popular food compare to fried chicken & rice. not suprise kfc is the winner here..
I dont know if anyone has notice,there seems to be more KFCs,BFCs than Mcdonald in Batam,hehehe...

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Originally Posted by marineboy99 View Post
Hi, guy it is truth that when you take a taxi to any fuck house the taxi driver will ask tips $$$ from the fuck house and in return the fuck house in charge will quote you more any comments thank
Yes,it is true. This commission rule applies to all fuck house and some high-end Massage shops,even restaurants like Wey Wey,Golden Prawn,Harbour Bay Seafood etc etc too (any restaurants w/o price menu).

If you wish to play safe,just stay in a hotel nearby to where most fuck house is,or somewhere centralize to most fuck house and then walk there. I go to fuck house with Taxi driver,i still bargain,price dont come down i just walk off...lose lose situation for both taxi, fuck house and maybe even me if i really like the girl. But if i stay so near to most fuck house,and i walk to those fuck house without bargaining at all,i am still paying driver commission price (w/o driver) and/or marked up price,hehehe...

Example 1 : I walk into fuck house with driver,i see a girl i like,i ask OKT how much,he says 800k,i tell him 700k i take...he says cannot,i tell OKT nevermind,i go to another joint...he will usually immediately call me back,otherwise i just go to another joint.

Example 2 : This time,I walk into fuck house without a driver,i see a girl i like,i ask OKT how much,he says 800k,i tell him i no driver...he says cannot,i tell OKT i have NO DRIVER,he says ok,no driver 700k...dont even need to bargain.

Example 3 : I walk into fuck house with a driver,i see a girl i like,i ask OKT how much,he says 800k,i tell him 700k i take...he says cannot,i tell OKT nevermind,i go to another joint...he will usually immediately call me back but this time after he called me back i ask for 600k,he tell me cannot and to fuck off as that 700k is the last price...lol.

Example 4 : I walk into fuck house without a driver,i see a girl i like,i ask OKT how much,he says 800k,i tell OKT i dont have DRIVER,he says ok,no driver 700k...dont even need to bargain.But after he quoted me 700k when i say no driver,i tell him 600k...he says no,and that 700k is the last price,take it or fuck off...lol.

In this 4 examples i am just trying to bring a message to you. Whether if there is a taxi driver or no taxi driver...the most important thing is open your golden mouth to ask for lower price. Otherwise be it with taxi or no taxi,be it taxi driver draws commission or dont draw commission,you still pay 800k.

I have mention the same thing on my signature link before and have been "experimenting" on the taxi driver commission thing since mid of last year.I believe those who joined me in my group trips will know and can witness the results (also written in my summaries on my signature). Shellina booking joint with taxi driver down from 1 juta to 900k twice,with taxi driver at New Berry 1 juta girl from 1 million becomes 900k,MM massage 800k which i go alone with Taxi driver during my Batam Best trip last year,its 800k to 700k etc etc etc. Not counting the recent Gold Bird joint. All these experiments are tested base on only one person book from one joint,not all of us booking from same joint.So it becomes a fair test.

The whole trick is simple,just OPEN my golden mouth (even when i dont speak Bahasa Indo),hehehe....perhaps 10k to 20k is too small an amount to haggle with the driver from Harbour Bay to any hotels,but how about the million rupiah girls? hehehe...thats why i came up with the verdict earlier that most Sillyporean were just having too much pride that prevents them from scoring a good deal.

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Originally Posted by nono1973 View Post
Hehehe...after going to Batam a couple of times,one will ultimately realize that if "you" dont bargain down any given price that has no price tag,that would means "you" are paying a Marked Up price. And paying the marked up price will eventually leads to future higher marked up price becos they know Sillyporean can pay,everything in Sillypore term is cheap,no Sillyporean is a poor man in Batam. Just go online to check on other netizen's tour report when they visit Batam (clean ones),almost everything in Batam in their opinion are considered "damn cheap",as the word Damn Cheap was very commonly used.

As what some China Tour Guide in China has mentioned before on some news article,Sillyporean tourist are often silly enough to believe everything that was told,and Sillyporean are the MOST easiest to con (according to the China Tour Guide) tourists in most China tour group as compare to other countries's tourists. And what this "tour guide" says do not just apply to those sillypore "Auntie" tourist,it also applies to the "Uncle"...hehehe...

In the case of Batam,are Sillyporean really super silly,super rich,super stupid,super shy or super unbrave to venture around? Then again,I believe it is none of it. I see it as a lack of confident and their big pride preventing them from paying the "Normal" price. I often hear this from my more elderly real life friends who visit Batam, "Come on,whats 10k-20k rupiah..only S$1.10-S$2.20..not worth the 1 min of my time when i am in Batam spending million rupiah on girls", believe me,this category of tourist (or my friends) will not even bargain if the amount is in million rupiah for girls,hehehe...it again boils down to lacking of confident and yet a little over prideful to admit this fact. So,they put their chest up and pay the price proudly lor...

(you can always check the FRs written here or other sites,how many ever mention they bargain with OKTs or girls (in joint/MP/pub) before,hehehe...either very little or never,right?)

I believe i did mentioned this sometime ago,an Indo local,an Ang moh and a Sillyporean drop off from the same ferry together. Ang Moh approach taxi driver A,he was quoted 80k. The Sillyporean approached the same driver A,he was quoted 50k. And when the local Indo approached the same taxi driver A again,he was quoted ONLY 35k which he later got on the taxi for 30k (after bargaining) to reach his destination. Dont misunderstand my words,its not about spoiling the market here and none of the 3 nationals in my example are categorized under poor people,but you can easily see now who are the more courageous,intelligent and wiser man there,isnt it?

So,whats my point in typing out 4-5 paragraphs of craps here which isnt related (almost) to your replying post?Hehehe...(sorry,i am just long-winded as usual) Ok,ok...my point is simple,my definition of BEST in Batam is when i got the lowest priced BEST deal,BEST service,BEST Girl ,BEST place for my enjoyment. And i learned one thing in Batam,bargaining is surely PART of the Indo culture,if i dont do that,i am just missing out MOST of the fun,hehehe....and i mean bargain in a friendly way.

Sorry for the long reply,i think i got a bit carried away thinking of my last massage girl in Princess while writing down my upcoming April trip summary at the same time typing this post...lol.
My test result is if i bargain and get their final price from fuck house and taxi drivers still gets the commission,why not just make everyone happy? Win-win situation,isnt it? Fuck house got business,taxi driver got his comm and i got my girl. I hope you get the message.

*whatever i write here in this post is base solely of my own perspective and interest and result may varies under different situation*
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